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Secretly Recorded by GP

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UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 18:18

I am seeking advice on a matter. I found out my accident that my GP recorded a telephone appointment without permission. I have complained to the practice and ICB, however they have not done anything. Does anybody have any advice or suggestions

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SuperTrooper14 · 28/02/2025 23:01

No33 · 28/02/2025 23:00

You are pissed off that you have been recorded, but expect the practice manager to break gdpr and send you other people's personal recordings... Okay 👍🏻

No, OP wanted a recording of her other appointment.

No33 · 28/02/2025 23:00

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:26

Perhaps that how you interpreted it. That is what the practice manager said, however, when I asked for the recording of other appointment - they weren't able to provide it.

You are pissed off that you have been recorded, but expect the practice manager to break gdpr and send you other people's personal recordings... Okay 👍🏻

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 28/02/2025 22:58

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 21:05

I don't know. However, I know that a doctor for a nyeigbourig practice was prosecuted for child pornagraphy.

Please don't use this terminology.
You should say Images of Child Sexual Abuse.

LINK

SuperTrooper14 · 28/02/2025 22:55

Deregistering seems drastic, maybe sleep on that one? Even if you move to another surgery presumably they will record calls too.

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:54

CarefulN0w · 28/02/2025 22:48

I don't think people are giving the OP a hard time as much as trying to reassure her that recording of telephone calls is normal and not sinister. It applies to all calls and not just the OP.

Even if the surgery haven't advised in their privacy notice that telephone calls are recorded, (although this would be unusual), the information will be stored on secure system, only accessible to authorised people and not shared with anyone outside of the surgery.

OP, unless you have disclosed that you are about to commit a serious crime, or other harmful activity, the recording of your phone call isn't going anywhere. Please do read the privacy notice.

I don't find the rude response very helpful or reassuring. Mocking or belittling someone or trying to shame someone for their feelings isn't helpful. Nor did I find the comments suggesting and insinuating that I done something wrong helpful. I found your post very rude and condescending.

My feeling are valid and I don't need to go into my trauma history to justify my feelings.

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Balloonhearts · 28/02/2025 22:54

Every GP I've ever had records telephone appointments. For their protection and for yours as well as quality control. They don't have to ask permission to record their phone lines, only if they share the recording, as is my understanding.

CarefulN0w · 28/02/2025 22:50

OP I hope you sleep well, but please do think carefully before deregistering. Perhaps speak again with your MH team? It sounds like you need support and I hope you get it.

Ughn0tryte · 28/02/2025 22:50

Actually this makes no sense.

It's a private consultation between patient and GP. It's a recorded line between reception desk and patient requesting a booking.

It's like when you make a bank transaction online; recorded line until you provide payment details then they take the recorded line off.

The bit where you did not consent, you couldn't you weren't informed. It's very different to a telephone advice line where it states that it's a recorded line.

This is a violation of patient-gp privacy.

It's the reason why surgeries should ensure photographs sent to gp for checking are not of genitals especially children. Because a recorded line is accessible to every person who works there.

There's no medical reason for a person to need the recording. Their notes are a summary of what you said and they said.

You maybe their patient but you are a person first. You have the right to say no to things. For you to say no, you should be informed so you can decline and ask what your options are.

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:48

Thank you for those send helpful suggestion.

I will be de-registering myself from the GP nor will I be visiting the GP in the future. The one thing I have learnt is not to accept telephone call or telephone appointment. In addition, I will be asking my mental health team and other specialist not to share information with my gp.

I will be off to bed now.

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CarefulN0w · 28/02/2025 22:48

apoetsmuse · 28/02/2025 22:34

I agree with the poster who has said the OP is getting a hard time on here (sorry can’t just find their name). It’s very easy to give someone a hard time when there is anonymity.

I don't think people are giving the OP a hard time as much as trying to reassure her that recording of telephone calls is normal and not sinister. It applies to all calls and not just the OP.

Even if the surgery haven't advised in their privacy notice that telephone calls are recorded, (although this would be unusual), the information will be stored on secure system, only accessible to authorised people and not shared with anyone outside of the surgery.

OP, unless you have disclosed that you are about to commit a serious crime, or other harmful activity, the recording of your phone call isn't going anywhere. Please do read the privacy notice.

apoetsmuse · 28/02/2025 22:44

OP, I am going to bed now. I hope you get a good night’s sleep and tomorrow research organisations who have some expertise and insight regarding your experience with the phone call 💐

Velmy · 28/02/2025 22:44

It might not be on their website, but you will have consented somewhere. My last GPs (tiny village place) had it in the small print of the paper form when registering. My current one - very modern - has it everywhere, even on the screens in the practice.

I'd be absolutely astounded in this day and age if they didn't.

Either way it's much of a muchness and absolutely pointless getting this worked up about.

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:42

CaptainFuture · 28/02/2025 22:36

So you ARE planning on suing the gp? On what grounds?

No, I wasn't but it seems like you are encouraging...

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Talkwhilstyouwalk · 28/02/2025 22:37

Ask yourself, what did they want to gain from recording you? And what do you want to gain from complaining about it?

Without being disrespectful I think it might be best to save your energy and move on.

CaptainFuture · 28/02/2025 22:36

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:35

I guess if plan to sue your GP. To be honest, I wouldn't noticed if I hadn't received the recording. I also learnt my GP is not exactly an honest person. Truthfully, I would rather not have found out in this manner that GP record conversations.

So you ARE planning on suing the gp? On what grounds?

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:35

CaptainFuture · 28/02/2025 22:29

So yay! It's good there's a recording?

I guess if plan to sue your GP. To be honest, I wouldn't noticed if I hadn't received the recording. I also learnt my GP is not exactly an honest person. Truthfully, I would rather not have found out in this manner that GP record conversations.

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apoetsmuse · 28/02/2025 22:34

I agree with the poster who has said the OP is getting a hard time on here (sorry can’t just find their name). It’s very easy to give someone a hard time when there is anonymity.

CaptainFuture · 28/02/2025 22:29

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:28

The thing is the GP notes wasn't actually accurate when you compare the actual recording.

So yay! It's good there's a recording?

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:28

bakedFishandChips · 28/02/2025 22:18

lol
everything is recorded these days; be grateful is recorded and they did not make any shit up

The thing is the GP notes wasn't actually accurate when you compare the actual recording.

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UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:26

CaptainFuture · 28/02/2025 22:12

This sums it up, @UPSETPATIENT your op almost indicates the gp is being nefarious and bullying by picking on you, but you later report the practice manager advises its all calls, nothing specific to you?

Perhaps that how you interpreted it. That is what the practice manager said, however, when I asked for the recording of other appointment - they weren't able to provide it.

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Mama2many73 · 28/02/2025 22:24

Can i just say I know when I callthe GP I know my calls are recorded for training purposes.....etc.
However when the GP has called me, I have never been told that my call is being recorded, so would be surprised if it was. I believed that if a call is recorded you MUST be made aware before it takes place.
Would I be bothered? That would depend on what had been discussed and the situation.

AllTheBestUsernamesHaveBeenTaken · 28/02/2025 22:20

I understand why you’re upset, especially if you feel that you weren’t made aware of the recording. Usually, there’s some sort of automated message at the start of calls to inform you, just like when you call customer service or a bank, so it might be worth checking if that was in place? That said, you are being unreasonable because it’s standard practice for GP surgeries to record calls for training and monitoring, and it’s unlikely there was any bad intent. If you find it too triggering to re-listen to the call, you could ask for an authorised advocate to do so on your behalf. While better communication would have helped, I’m not sure if this is really something to be outraged over, especially as the phone call was intended to help you.

Drdancer · 28/02/2025 22:20

Ive just been reading on Mental Health Foundation website about people in mental health services and discrimination in health care. You could also look at Mind.

bakedFishandChips · 28/02/2025 22:18

lol
everything is recorded these days; be grateful is recorded and they did not make any shit up

UPSETPATIENT · 28/02/2025 22:17

Drdancer · 28/02/2025 22:15

If you are with the mental health team OP can they sign post you to a mental health advocate.
Historically people in mental health services have often experienced stigma and discrimination so I understand why things like confidentiality and sharing of information would be important to you and why you might question what has happened. Do you have access to any mental health user/support groups that may be useful?

Thank you for your understanding - I will look into this.

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