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Am I being unreasonable to give birth away from the child’s father because he doesn’t want to get married?

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Donesomethingsilly · 28/02/2025 02:30

My partner has two children to a previous relationship, we have been together for a while. We have discussed getting married but he was reluctant as he wants to protect himself financially. I understood that, and took a risk and decided to have a child with him as we had a great relationship. Since getting pregnant it’s been rocky. I’m not a uk citizen, my family is on the other side of the world. I’m with family at the moment as I needed to get away. Am I being unreasonable to stay here and have the child with my support system around me? He can’t move here, or even visit because he has his children. I feel stuck between doing the right thing for all the children involved, or the right thing for myself.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/03/2025 21:27

CrispieCake · 02/03/2025 13:58

It's completely pointless playing the blame game. Shoulda, woulda, coulda, it's all in the past.

The only question the OP should be thinking about is this - can she give the child a better life in the country she's in or in the UK? That's it, really.

She says herself that what she has done is not in her child's best interests.

CrispieCake · 02/03/2025 13:58

It's completely pointless playing the blame game. Shoulda, woulda, coulda, it's all in the past.

The only question the OP should be thinking about is this - can she give the child a better life in the country she's in or in the UK? That's it, really.

Auldy · 02/03/2025 13:46

I think it's safe to say that neither OP or her partner have made the best decisions. And now a real life human child is going to have deal with the consequences of that for the rest of their lives. It's just crap.

DivorcedMumOfAdults · 02/03/2025 12:57

GaspingGekko · 28/02/2025 02:39

So you knew he didn't want to get married, decided to have a baby with him and now you're angry at him for not wanting to get married?

And you want to keep your child in a place he can't come to because he was vlear in marriage and hasn't changed his mind?

Yes, you're being unreasonable.

No she decided to have a child in a relationship that was working knowing he didn’t want to marry but then the relationship deteriorated. She doesn’t say how intentional the pregnancy was on his part but assuming she wasn’t deceiving him about contraception he was willing to have a child with her. If he has since changed his mind then that’s his problem but the responsibility for creating it is still partly his and he needs to have some balls and take responsibility for his actions. If he isn’t willing then personally I think the unborn child is better off not having contact with him

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:45

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:40

There is literally one person to blame when a woman purposely gets pregnant with a shit man

Are you for real? You think there’s “one person to blame” when a “shit man” conceives a child . And that one person is….- the woman?!

Says it all really. 😂

I think poster just wants to see OP punished no matter the impacts on the child. Still notice how not one bit of blame or accountability has been accepted on behalf of the ex. It is sad. And I hate to see women picking bad men/bad situations that do not serve them but I still can think past that.

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:41

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:40

There is literally one person to blame when a woman purposely gets pregnant with a shit man

Are you for real? You think there’s “one person to blame” when a “shit man” conceives a child . And that one person is….- the woman?!

Says it all really. 😂

Yes, because she went ahead and got pregnant, knowing who he was. What an idiot!

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:40

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:37

There is literally one person to blame when a woman purposely gets pregnant with a shit man! He’s not pulled the wool over her eyes - he was honest about what he wanted from the relationship. She went ahead anyway. Where’s the accountability?!

There is literally one person to blame when a woman purposely gets pregnant with a shit man

Are you for real? You think there’s “one person to blame” when a “shit man” conceives a child . And that one person is….- the woman?!

Says it all really. 😂

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:39

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:37

Also just because she works full time doesn’t mean she can afford to house and support herself in the UK as a single mother. We don’t even know in what part of the country her partner lives or what immigration status she has !

You are right of course never mind then having to navigate child illness and days off (when baby is born) with no support system. And would she even be eligible for paid maternity leave. Hideous.

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:37

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:35

I think it’s much more of a shame that you seek to blame a woman for the lack of commitment of a man towards the family he willingly created.

But sadly that’s the kind of society we live in.

A shame indeed.

There is literally one person to blame when a woman purposely gets pregnant with a shit man! He’s not pulled the wool over her eyes - he was honest about what he wanted from the relationship. She went ahead anyway. Where’s the accountability?!

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:37

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:34

Say she can increase her hours (and what if she can’t? No available roles just now in her present company, maternity discrimination etc etc ) what about housing? What if she is ill during maternity leave? She said her ex is not supportive during her pregnancy - these is even more to consider than finance.

Also just because she works full time doesn’t mean she can afford to house and support herself in the UK as a single mother. We don’t even know in what part of the country her partner lives or what immigration status she has !

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:36

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:35

I think it’s much more of a shame that you seek to blame a woman for the lack of commitment of a man towards the family he willingly created.

But sadly that’s the kind of society we live in.

A shame indeed.

Exactly this! No wonder the birth rate is so low.

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:36

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:34

Say she can increase her hours (and what if she can’t? No available roles just now in her present company, maternity discrimination etc etc ) what about housing? What if she is ill during maternity leave? She said her ex is not supportive during her pregnancy - these is even more to consider than finance.

Which is why I said if you’re unable to support yourself financially, you’re best off going home. But what a shame she thought she’d be the ‘exception to the rule’ when her partner had made his feelings clear.

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:35

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:30

I actually agree @Tandora that if you’re an immigrant who is not fleeing danger, and you are unable to support yourself financially and provide a stable home to live in, you probably should go home. It’s just a shame she’s put this innocent child in this situation because she thought she’d be ‘the exception to the rule’ regarding her partners feelings towards commitment.

I think it’s much more of a shame that you seek to blame a woman for the lack of commitment of a man towards the family he willingly created.

But sadly that’s the kind of society we live in.

A shame indeed.

Deverthing · 02/03/2025 12:35

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 28/02/2025 04:02

So you’ve trapped him into marrying you basically.

you decide to get pregnant will him making it very clear that marriage is not an option and you then blackmail him into marrying you by saying he doesn’t get to be in the child’s life if he doesn’t?

I don’t think she trapped him. He knew what he was doing by having unprotected sex.

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:34

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:31

By working full time, rather than part time?! Like most people have to in order to put a roof over their head.

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Say she can increase her hours (and what if she can’t? No available roles just now in her present company, maternity discrimination etc etc ) what about housing? What if she is ill during maternity leave? She said her ex is not supportive during her pregnancy - these is even more to consider than finance.

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:31

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:28

She literally says she can’t- not sure why you think she can 🤷🏼‍♀️

I dont think the relationship is going to work, and I won’t be able to afford to live. So it will come down to being homeless or leaving the child with their father and leaving the country.

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By working full time, rather than part time?! Like most people have to in order to put a roof over their head.

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:30

I actually agree @Tandora that if you’re an immigrant who is not fleeing danger, and you are unable to support yourself financially and provide a stable home to live in, you probably should go home. It’s just a shame she’s put this innocent child in this situation because she thought she’d be ‘the exception to the rule’ regarding her partners feelings towards commitment.

DivorcedMumOfAdults · 02/03/2025 12:29

I think you feel safer and more secure with your parents and you really don’t trust the father of your unborn child . If this is the case then staying put is the right choice for you but as previously stated this will likely end the relationship. Assuming you didn’t secretly put holes in the condoms or lie about being on contraception he has equal moral responsibility in supporting his child . If you give birth abroad and don’t name him on the birth certificate I think he would struggle to legally get access. Your child needs a safe secure environment around them this doesn’t need to include the biological father .
It seems more likely it’s won’t not can’t visit which probably tells you where his priorities are

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:28

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:24

She did have a job - a part time one, rather than a full time one, for some reason. She chose to give it up. She could have supported herself if she wanted to.

She literally says she can’t- not sure why you think she can 🤷🏼‍♀️

I dont think the relationship is going to work, and I won’t be able to afford to live. So it will come down to being homeless or leaving the child with their father and leaving the country.

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:28

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:26

I don’t think she should have to do so alone. No.

HTH

It really, doesn’t help actually but thanks!

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:26

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:25

You don’t think a woman should support herself financially, just because she’s pregnant?!

Jesus 🤦🏻‍♀️😂

I don’t think she should have to do so alone. No.

HTH

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:25

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:20

She needs to financially support herself through the pregnancy, she’s a grown woman

Yup and she can’t do that alone in the uk where she has no citizenship and no secure housing. It only works if her partner works with her. He won’t 🤷🏼‍♀️. Hence she needs to remain in the place where she can manage and not sacrifice her security and her child’s security for the sake of a man who is not committed and won’t share his finances.

Edited

True. Not to mention even if OP had a nice job there is a risk of maternity discrimination of being ill during the pregnancy and having to leave her job early. She may not have enough maternity ist to support herself. No way should all the burden be on her.

Now to add no way to I support getting pregnant in bad circumstances but if you are pregnant baby and mothers health is so important and they are both better off with support.

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:25

OutsideLookingOut · 02/03/2025 12:19

I disagree on both points but thank you :). It should not be unexpected for a woman to have support during pregnancy even if she can do it all herself. Avoiding stress is good for the developing baby.

You don’t think a woman should support herself financially, just because she’s pregnant?!

Jesus 🤦🏻‍♀️😂

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:24

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:20

She needs to financially support herself through the pregnancy, she’s a grown woman

Yup and she can’t do that alone in the uk where she has no citizenship and no secure housing. It only works if her partner works with her. He won’t 🤷🏼‍♀️. Hence she needs to remain in the place where she can manage and not sacrifice her security and her child’s security for the sake of a man who is not committed and won’t share his finances.

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She did have a job - a part time one, rather than a full time one, for some reason. She chose to give it up. She could have supported herself if she wanted to.

Tandora · 02/03/2025 12:20

SwingTheMonkey · 02/03/2025 12:01

She needs to financially support herself through the pregnancy, she’s a grown woman.

ETA - writing HTH at the end of your post is really juvenile.

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She needs to financially support herself through the pregnancy, she’s a grown woman

Yup and she can’t do that alone in the uk where she has no citizenship and no secure housing. It only works if her partner works with her. He won’t 🤷🏼‍♀️. Hence she needs to remain in the place where she can manage and not sacrifice her security and her child’s security for the sake of a man who is not committed and won’t share his finances.

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