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To think I should know how to paint!?

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AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 19:55

I was a digital designer and illustrator for many years before going into a new field. Also started working with an animal charity and this took a good few years of my time and energy.

When the urge to make art returned, I really wanted to paint. Like with actual paint, traditional media, which should have been somewhat seamless, right?

Well I'm awful. I have been trying for a few years and still don't have one single piece to speak of.

My background was in illustrator (digital) and photography, phD, working with clients from Atlantic records, Penguin, Ikea and Zara. I obviously understand design, colour, composition, etc, but just CAN'T bloody paint.

I get started with great ideas (never short of those!) but my head falls apart within minutes. Nothing makes sense, and the materials seem to work against me. I don't think it's anxiety or expectation, this has been going on for around 7 years now.
I don't really want to go back to how I used to work, I have no real passion for that, so what's the point?

So, is it silly of me to expect to be able to paint a bloody picture on canvas at this point in my life?

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Kestrelsky72 · 22/10/2025 21:45

Did you get anywhere with your paintings? If you want to paint abstract landscapes check out Louise Fletcher on you tube. She does a free course every year too. The important thing is to play without expectation and see what comes out. The best things are discovered by experimenting. I am an acrylic painter (50% of my income) and am feeling rather stale and sick of what I paint, and confined by the medium, so I am trying to move into oils which are completely different so need to accept everything will be shit while I learn how to handle the paint, and I am also considering getting another p/t job so that I don't feel under pressure to paint to sell. Beginners mind is key.

Floppyflippers · 28/02/2025 15:02

I could have written that, minus the big name clientele.
I can do pastels and pencil. Not keen on charcoal, don't much like the feeling in my hand. Paint makes me want to run away screaming. It's weird. I feel no connection with the surface, almost like the brush is in my way.
I used to make a living selling printables designed in photoshop etc. but with AI it seems pointless now. I think digital imagery has become devalued as everybody and his frigging dog just assume EVERYTHING digital was produced with a prompt and a single click. I can mostly tell the difference but if customers can't, that's a problem.

The brain of some people, is too full of options for a single image. We like to fiddle with the shapes, tweak the spines, pull them lovely little arrows, add edit points one by one, change positions and colours till an image perfectly fits out ever changing vision. Digital is flexible. Instant upgrade possible as the idea reforms and reforms again. All those lovely layers to work on. The peace of intense concentration ❤.

Paint is too immediately permanent and harder to alter when your vision changes. To put it bluntly, painting is too messy.

Painting is also too slow for me personally. I do appreciate the artistry of painters, very much so, but it's just not for me. I've watched others paint and it's enjoyable, often awe inspiring. Maybe, I'll have the bravery required to permanently mark a perfect blank canvas one day.

MarsScarlet · 28/02/2025 00:19

It sounds like you are putting too much pressure on yourself. You should be able to sit in front of the paper, brush in hand, and let the process lead you where it may - rather than you lead the process. Your mind is getting in the way.

Accept you might need practice, and that is okay. Practice. Do this not with exasperation, but as a swimmer does. The same strokes, over and over, with different concentrations of water, until it becomes smooth and almost thoughtless.

My own problem is with composition. Sometimes I can't translate what I imagine to the page, but I'm getting there!

EBearhug · 28/02/2025 00:05

I see my autocorrect doesn't know of scumbling...

weareallcats · 27/02/2025 23:47

I suspect you are overthinking or you are a perfectionist - you can’t correct things on a canvas in quite the same way as you can digitally (although with oils you can to a greater extent than with acrylic or watercolour). I paint for fun - I don’t naturally have a good eye for perspective, but am good at colour and texture - you should explore and not expect to produce brilliant work from the start. I do get it - I have perfectionist tendencies and my dad was an artist, so I am always comparing myself to him and wondering why I don’t have his ease and precision. But art is about exploration and expression, not perfection.

EBearhug · 27/02/2025 23:37

I'd do a class, be evening, a residential week, weekend or whatever. What I would want is a course that uses a range of media, e.g. watercolour, pastels, oils, acrylics, etc, and teaches different techniques with them all. You don't achieve the same thing with a watercolour wash as you do with stumbling pastels and so on. But learning different techniques in different media will give you more idea about how to achieve what you want to achieve.

I think if you have a sound grounding in life drawing, you will be able to do it, once you've had some practice with different media and techniques, and learnt how they work for you.

HalfMumHalfBiccit · 27/02/2025 23:05

Go to a painting class

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 22:58

Sarkyandcynical · 27/02/2025 22:17

I think it’s quite helpful to try and figure out what is going wrong. Is it that you can’t get the image in your head on to the paper? Is the paint not doing what you expect it to?
im guessing it’s a medium thing as you can get your digital images the way that you want them. So some training or a bit of practice will no doubt help.
Don’t give up. It’s worth more when you have to work for it, some of the joy in picking up a new skill is in the learning and improving.

When I work digitally I can do anything I like, I can blend, add, subtract, merge, etc.
When I work with paint, I am restricted to one dimension.

I have many images in my head, but when I use paint or other materials (pastels, pencils, watercolour acrylic, oil) I literally can't control it. It is like having a stroke, or losing my mind somewhat. Everything is upside down.

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Sarkyandcynical · 27/02/2025 22:17

I think it’s quite helpful to try and figure out what is going wrong. Is it that you can’t get the image in your head on to the paper? Is the paint not doing what you expect it to?
im guessing it’s a medium thing as you can get your digital images the way that you want them. So some training or a bit of practice will no doubt help.
Don’t give up. It’s worth more when you have to work for it, some of the joy in picking up a new skill is in the learning and improving.

Catza · 27/02/2025 21:25

I am a printmaker and I never really expected to be good at painting or, drawing for that matter. Over the last 5 years I pivoted towards fabric design which I happily do both digitally and with analogue media but each new technique and media needs hours/days (years!!) to master. Give me an etching plate any day! Easy.. but then I spent 9h a day, 6 days a week for 3 years of my degree learning the craft of printmaking and about zero time working on any other skills. Skill takes practice and skill is not really transferrable between media. I can do a decent job with watercolour, semi-decent job with gouache. Anything else... nope.

Joystir59 · 27/02/2025 21:14

Book yourself some drawing and painting lessons

fashionqueen0123 · 27/02/2025 21:12

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 20:05

I've tried, over the years. I am good at life drawing with charcoal, all the A+ in uni, etc, but can't bloody paint.

I think to me, it felt like a natural progression that doesn't work.
I wouldn't care so much if my heart wasn't so hurt by it Sad

I’d go back to drawing. It’s easier in my opinion. Then try pastels! Lovely
to blend. Then I’d try getting some
water colour and acrylic books from the library for ideas. Build up to it!

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 21:10

This was about as far as I got with watercolour.

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AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 20:52

POSTC123 · 27/02/2025 20:36

The fact you have just said paint means to me you have not really looked at this with the same rigour as perhaps your previous disciplines.

Which paint?

Oil, acrylic, gouache, watercolour?

All entirely different mediums and each an art in themselves.

I used to not be bad at acyrlic. Oil never really got to a good level. But watercolour! My god that evaded me for a long long time and I really wanted to be good at that.

I have invested lots of time now understanding the basics of it and investing in decent paint. That's made a huge difference. I think if I practiced enough I could now get ok at it.

Which mediums do you like? Join a class for lessons!

You know, the more I studied and took it seriously the worse it got.
I loved all mediums, although can't much tolerate acrylic, which is a shame since it's so convenient.
Not too bad with watercolour, and loved pigment, brusho, and experimenting with mediums like salt, granulation and water techniques.

sadly everything I created was nondescript.
I could study till I am blue in the face.

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POSTC123 · 27/02/2025 20:36

The fact you have just said paint means to me you have not really looked at this with the same rigour as perhaps your previous disciplines.

Which paint?

Oil, acrylic, gouache, watercolour?

All entirely different mediums and each an art in themselves.

I used to not be bad at acyrlic. Oil never really got to a good level. But watercolour! My god that evaded me for a long long time and I really wanted to be good at that.

I have invested lots of time now understanding the basics of it and investing in decent paint. That's made a huge difference. I think if I practiced enough I could now get ok at it.

Which mediums do you like? Join a class for lessons!

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 20:29

Gimme a few mins, I need to find one!

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pearbottomjeans · 27/02/2025 20:28

Post one of your paintings! You’re deffo better than you think.

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 20:25

I always try to do abstract landscapes and often wonder if that is the problem, it's like going back to school and trying to do fractions (for me!).
If I paint other stuff I'm not 'too' bad.

It's interesting trying to figure out what the heck drives us isn't it?

Then again, if we have a certain passion, it's a bugger if we can't do it.

I think I recall musicians who said they'd dreamt of being painters but couldn't hack it. Even though people loved their music more!

Wasn't it Joni Mitchell who preferred painting? She is famous for it now, but only because of her success as a musician.

And the Moomin author Tove Jansson - famous for cute stories but was a dedicated oil painter.

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Edit for blithering typos.

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Howyoualldoworkme · 27/02/2025 20:20

Franklet · 27/02/2025 20:15

Goodness, me too! It's frustrating but I know that practice is the only answer. But life's too short to force yourself to practice something you don't enjoy for its own sake.

Definitely! I'm now treating it as an amusing foible. I've taken classes, everything.
My last attempt at a watercolour I called "Not so much a painting more a cry for help"
I'm concentrating on portraits as that's my talent. As long as no brushes are involved...

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 20:17

I wil also be honest, so don't knock me for this, but as an artist i do want to communicate and enjoy sharing with other artists.
Sadly, when people find out my work is digital, they back off or pass on by (online).

I do think there is a weird kind of antipathy towards digital art, probably because it is now ubiquitous and many people mistakenly believe that the software does the work for you.

At heart, I also truly longed to paint, so it's a bit of both personal desire and public awareness if that makes sense?

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Franklet · 27/02/2025 20:15

Howyoualldoworkme · 27/02/2025 20:11

Now that's a problem that I have when I paint. It doesn't match the vision in my head so to my eyes isn't good enough.

Goodness, me too! It's frustrating but I know that practice is the only answer. But life's too short to force yourself to practice something you don't enjoy for its own sake.

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 20:14

No, not about money or adulation, but self fulfilment. I longed to paint for years, then when I could devote myself to it it went south.

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Franklet · 27/02/2025 20:12

Who do you want to take you seriously? Are you hoping to make a living (or reputation) from painting?

You seem to be torturing yourself! It's a shame not to enjoy the process and the talent that you do have because you're too busy focusing on a (perceived) weakness in another area.

Howyoualldoworkme · 27/02/2025 20:11

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 20:08

You are right that I should not 'expect to be able to do it, but I think I felt it should work. Maybe a personal thing? I have images in my mind of so many things I would paint, but they never come to fruition. It's sad really.

Interesting question about 'serious' art.
I guess in the age of AI I feel less trusting of being taken seriously in digital.

Now that's a problem that I have when I paint. It doesn't match the vision in my head so to my eyes isn't good enough.

AllyHayHay · 27/02/2025 20:08

You are right that I should not 'expect to be able to do it, but I think I felt it should work. Maybe a personal thing? I have images in my mind of so many things I would paint, but they never come to fruition. It's sad really.

Interesting question about 'serious' art.
I guess in the age of AI I feel less trusting of being taken seriously in digital.

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