To wish Starmer would make a unilateral decision to rejoin the EU?

Hopefully he is learning that his job is to do what majority of the population want. The party politics game of doing the opposite of each other is why so little changes.

I'm know you are not getting the answers you wanted on this thread, but I am actually quite thrilled with this thread. Most people seem to have come to their senses at last, and realised that leaving the EU was indeed a good idea! (And there is no WAY we are going back - ever.)

The responses on a thread like this would have been quite different even just 3 years ago, and probably 67% YANBU, (not 67% YABU.) It's taken a while but most people have now realised (thankfully) that we did indeed have the correct result in the EU referendum.

How do you honestly think it will help? Genuinely curious.

Think it through, OP, using all the arguments you've been given here. You can 'feel' all you like that an undemocratic attempt to return to a union that may not even want us, two weeks into a new world order, is a good idea but I'd keep it to yourself if you have any sense because you're going to look very foolish if you persist.

You don't believe in democracy?

Exactly this. My life, and that of everyone I know is no different due to leaving the EU. It's no better or worse for leaving the EU. But the UK as a whole is £350 million a week better off, and we can make our own decisions on things without consulting the EU, and no longer have to be pushed around by them.

The reasons for the cost of living crisis, and high interest rates, and other economic factors et al (in the UK) is down to the pandemic, (and that has affected the whole world.) The economic state of the UK is very little to do with us leaving the EU.

In fact what swung it for me was after the unimaginable atrocity at the bataclan theater in Paris with used guns from eastern Europe.

The German paper said the warnings about refurbish guns sat on some burocratic desk in the eu bemoth for years never acted on. Que bataclan when that threat became reality.

Step two the french prime minister stood shaking repeating... Our borders are closed our borders are closed by which point 1) too late you have no boarders and 2) they had already fled back to Belgium.

Utterly disgusting

Yep, EU are absolutely corrupt.

100% this. ^

Lavender unfortunately no renainer has ever said anything of worth about being part of the eu only complain about airport queues and sandwiches.

Nothing about the black hole of corruption, the self serving massive eu gravy train human trafficking, in efficient systems, making decree with no way of backing them up. Forcing countries together who are a million miles away in culture and ideas. Utter miserable disaster. Oh but yes.... We have to wait in an airport queue (I havant)

I didn't vote to leave and was quite horrified at the time but my eyes have been opened to the corruption of the EU a bit since then and now I am more on the fence about whether its such a terrible thing, long-term, that we've left. Only time will tell. I certainly wouldn't be longing for a dictatorship as the OP seems to be. A dictatorship headed by our current gov is the stuff of dystopian nightmares.

The US are favouring Putin. Putin is trying to destabilise Europe by pouring vast amounts of money into social media propaganda blaming immigrants for people's problems and pushing conservatism. He's been at it since before Brexit, and it's why racism and misogyny are now commonplace, and the far-right are gaining voters.

That doesn't look like an ally to me. I think it's you who is forgetting history... it's all feeling a bit 1930s right now.

Omg no!!

The tides out right now and the eu is stark bollock naked!!

Who wants to be part of it??

The one big thing starmer has going for him right now is not being part of Europe meeting Trump!!

Europe has no teeth and it's eccomically weak
It can't defend itself.

He absolutely should not!! Not one person I know who voted leave regret it. This country would become more of a shambles than it already is if he just decided to rejoin.

The Tories took Britain into the EEC in 1973. No Referendum til Labour held one in 75. I remember being against membership. Well Ted Heath and Harold Wilson were right and I was wrong. Good job it wasn't up to me!
Sometimes you need strong leadership. Harder now though with news 24/7 and Twitter et al. Every pub bore has his own personal TV station now alas.

Oh don’t start that again. The personal attacks are a reflection of you not pp, she is entitled to express her opinion. As it turns out things are changing at such a pace in Europe and outside, and the US is a genuine ally. Or maybe you have simply forgotten history my friend.

Most Western countries had some form of lockdown, many stricter than ours. Most also had some kind of furlough.

We are fucked because of Brexit.

I'm sure Leavers are as well.

Plenty insisting they don't regret it, not one able to provide a coherent reason why.

Trump is loving Kier today!

Starmers doing ok this week to be honest.

He cares more about power than his principals so for example cutting foreign aid to pay for defence is playing nicely into reform voters hands.

I think you will find it was the response to COVID that really did us in.

He can't but I wish he could. We will go back in eventually, it would be madness not to. What a hugely costly, obvious mistake was made. Fucked the country for a generation.

We would need a referendum. Conditions of rejoining would be even more tied than before. It would be a bigger no vote than last time I’m afraid.