To wish Starmer would make a unilateral decision to rejoin the EU?

The YouGov poll linked to up thread claims 51% of respondents would vote in favour of joining the EU if there was a referendum held now.

MrsSkylerWhite
I can pretty much guarantee that a percentage don’t want to mention it because it’s been a disaster

I can pretty much guarantee that anyone who thinks Brexit is a 'disaster' would want to mention it. Or were you being hyperbolic? Hardly anyone posts on the dedicated Brexit board on Mumsnet now - surely there would be more interest if Brexit was a 'disaster'?

Very embarrassing to admit you were duped

Well, I certainly remember the head of the Remain campaign saying in 2021 that the economic dangers of Brexit were exaggerated by his camp and the strategy didn't work. I felt a bit duped that I was told house prices might fall 18% and there would be an instant recession if leave won - I very nearly voted remain on the strength of it.

They aren’t likely to tell you, are they? (given the very anti-EU opinions you have been expressing on this forum for years. Can only imagine that you’re equally blinkered and strident face to face.

You are not a very good judge of character if you think I am a forceful or intimidating person. Neither do I think I am blinkered. I don't impose my political views on anyone - in fact I am very approachable face to face and I get on with everyone in real life. Do you think everyone who disagrees with you is blinkered?

Young friends and family are [having a miserable life] because their freedoms and options have been severely curtailed.
If you don’t feel that’s a cause for regret, I can only assume that you’re a comfortable retiree too, without young people you care about.

Emotional blackmail now - and you accused me of being difficult to converse with. I am not a retiree and I have two young people I care about (more in our wider family) - ds1 graduated last summer and ds2 is in the lower sixth.

All of the young people I know (under 35) studied for their undergraduate degrees in the UK, the US or Ireland. A few opted for a year in Europe (EU) as part of their degree - including post Brexit. It must be quite difficult for English speaking graduates to get a graduate-level trainee job in the EU if they are not bilingual - regardless of Brexit. Indeed, the Irish young people I know have moved to London and Sydney, not elsewhere in the EU.

The recent trade deals with Australia and New Zealand extended the youth mobility schemes we had with those countries and raised the age limit by 5 years - that is clearly a benefit for our young people. Although, if it makes you feel any better, I fully expect Keir Starmer to capitulate on a youth mobility deal with the EU. It remains to be seen if our young people in the UK will be disadvantaged by such a scheme with increased competition for jobs - a number of parents expressed that concern on LBC last week.

Sorry, I thought it read 63% would vote Reform!

I agree. It would solve so many problems, and he has the political capital to do it.

However, it would only bolster Reform which would be catastrophic for the U.K.

Where have I heard that before 😂

Wow!

63% of the population would now vote to rejoin. 🙂

In what way?

The US withdrawing defence funding.

What makes you think the EU would accept the British back in?

Thats assuming the EU would take the UK, back, of course.

@MrsSkylerWhite Some pp have said they won’t - I don’t whether that is true or not.
However Best for Britain has been fund-raising to rejoin - having received from George Soros’s Open Society Foundation nearly quarter of a million pounds as well other large donations - so why would they continue with this if there is no chance of rejoining?

nonsense

roast beefs from the slums no doubt....

half did. the old, white/english half in both cases

from where do you get your 'information'? GB News? Youtube?

YANBU.
Either go back because its economically sensible, or have another vote.

because it's fundamentally in their interest? it's not been happening for 80 years for no (american) reason. Remember the Marshall plan?

but most people are uninformed or ill informed, that's just human nature. I know this is breaking Godwin's Law, but hitler was voted in democratically...

most of the countries are voting the other way and want less Europe not more
evidence please?

do they though? Those who think about? Do all the republican politicians actually think Trump is not insane. No, neither is true. All economic, business and cultural leaders etc.. in 2016 thought brexit a mad idea. The marginal result (punishing a tory party for insane anti-keynesian austerity) does not undo the fact that those who have thought deeply about it, and have vested interests have changed their analysis. A vote result does not fundamental economic and international interests, change. (p.s. don't know any leave voters as live in a relatively prosperous part of the UK..)

stereotypical population? you mean the half the population (less know as they have been dying off in droves) who voted leave a decade a go?

Because we don't behave like a spurned lover, but the EU does.

If a club feels the need to punish members who leave, it probably wasn't a great club in the first place.

Forget the pointless bureaucracy of EU institutions. Stick with NATO.

But there is absolutely no reason why we couldn't (or shouldn't) work with the EU to stand against Putin. Membership of the EU isn't a requirement for being allied is it!

Lots of nonsense is discussed on Mumsnet.