Woman 19 dies in dog attack

Pray tell, is this place near me? Sounds right up my street

I’m afraid you’ll just have to put up with it.
Many places allow dogs in simply because it’s good for business and the majority of people do not mind (or if you’re like me, are happy to see dogs in there)

For every one person that won’t eat in a cafe with a dog, I can bet there about ten that would

Well, don't go on a cafe that is the middle of a dog park, that says dogs welcome in huge letters on the window, and then moan dogs are in there.
And it is hardly a fine dining restaurant. It does paninis, cakes, and little bits for dogs too.

didn't used to bne daft not to expect dogs in cafes.
I've said this before bu for the majority of my life dogs have been banned from food places so i feel disgust when I see a dog in a cafe no matter where it is.
Cafe owners used to manage fine without letting dogs in

That is sad to hear. But this is a cafe in the middle of a dog park. It would be daft to not expect dogs there, and be bad business sense for the cafe owner.

And my heart sinks when I see a dog in a public place I want to be in ( especially food places; yeuch)

not this ridiculous thing again.
We are humans so won't be banning our own species

I am the same when I see a dog, especially when it is a greyhound. Having some unexpected greyhoundy cuddles from one that is not mine makes my day. There is one who is a regular in my local cafe, a lovely lemon brindle girl. She is so soft and gentle.

So are a lot of people.

I disagree with this.

Imagine if, over night, the government banned people from keeping dogs as pets.

What would the many people who make a living based on dog ownership now do? The professional trainers, dog paraphernalia manufacturers etc? Pet shops would have a sharp decline in sales and have to lay off staff. Ditto vets. I’m sure there are plenty of other examples.

And then, what would we do with puppies that had gone through training as service dogs but, for whatever reason, didn’t made the ‘cut’ - they can’t be adopted out if pet dogs were no longer allowed so would we euthanise them?

Not to mention the world would just be a much sadder place

I do not have a dog (may get one soon, in the middle of a VERY thorough research phase 😂)

But other people’s dogs are of use to me!! If I go anywhere and there is a doggo hanging out there, they immediately lift my mood! Even more so if it looks like I can approach the owner in order to meet there dog. I was out at the local after having a bad time of it lately and someone’s black lab came walking up to me, plonked itself next to me and asked for a fuss. I was in my element. I bloody LOVE dogs so much. They are an absolute gift to humanity.

(not including XL bullies of course! I would support a total ban on those)

she's useless to society as a whole though unlike cows.

My pet dog might be of no use to someone else, but to me she a massive part of my life and a member of my family. She is not useless to me.

we eat cows which is why we don't ban them
99% of dogs have no use apart from being a pet to someone

I am perfectly fine with nature. I object to piles of dog shit on the pavements, and doggy piss up lamposts, so much that there are little puddles all over the place. Normal animals are welcome. Human-imposed dogs, not.
I cannot believe they are in restaurants and cafes, shops, schools. That is madness. Our obsession with dogs is what's gotten us into this mess of people being mauled by dogs, too many to count. I think it is a sickness that people like dogs, a brainwashing.

Totally. That level of nonsensical bile really does imply some level of mental ill health.

It's not like all wildlife isn't out there pissing and shitting and making noise is it!

Not, apparently, for some of the more vehemently-inclined posters. Guide dogs still poo. Hearing dogs can still be yappy. They are all just dogs. You can't say 'ban dogs, nobody should have a dog, they're all stinky and should be 'confined to houses and gardens, oh, except for any dog that's a working dog.'

Even working dogs can be little buggers.

@HeadacheEarthquake I was replying to a rabid dog hater post who was spouting rubbish.

There's a big difference between highly trained working dogs and pets.

That sounds like poor Jack Lees.

The imbecile owners of the XL were seen encouraging it to lunge at young children and passersby.

Then the moronic owner began punching it in the head-

Just for “fun” by the looks.

Poor Jack didn’t stand a chance.

Lots of owners have them on very long leashes ( if leashed at all) and a long leash means the dog has far more power - simple physics.

They pull free of the owners who are incapable of managing them.

There was a man in the media bragging that only he was capable of holding two of these beasts-

But if they decided to turn, he’d not be able to hold them back.

I’m used to horses, but when I felt the strength of an XLB, the low centre of gravity, give me a 17hh horse to manage any day in a leading situation -much easier.

All the 'nobody should have a dog, filthy vermin' people should go and talk to a blind person with a guide dog, or an owner of a hearing dog for the deaf. See how much they would like to be without their dogs.

It is quite true that dogs , threatening or not , have assumed too great a position in our society . I object to dogs in eating places and I object to sleeping in an hotel bedroom where a dog has been “ staying “ . An hotel near to me has a doggy ice cream facility ! I also object to dogs and their owners taking up the whole of the pavement whilst I , an elderly woman , step into the gutter . Dogs are animals and not designed to live in a small, domestic environment ; it is an aberration of nature , not for their good but to satisfy some need in humans . This is ok, and understandable if controlled ,but dogs are taking over society.

Licensing system??

We have loads of restrictions on XLs atm.. far more onerous than a licensing system... yet people are still being torn apart.. there can be few deaths worse than this.

Out right bans, min 5 years inside, if flouted.

People can have brilliant bonds with breeds inc larger ones, that don't pose such dangers.

People who want dogs should be encouraged to get robo-dogs instead of the old fashioned kind.

What??? What do you mean, "what do you do when people don't follow the law?"?!? You call the police!