Woman 19 dies in dog attack

Absolutely every person who is sick of dogs has said pet dogs are the problem, not useful ones.

All of them should be destroyed - and I really love dogs.

Just this week we had school messages saying an XL bully had attacked two people and was on the loose. The police ended up patrolling the area until the dog was found. It had an owner who was completely incapable of restraining it.

Whether a dog is loose or not shouldn’t mean that the dog randomly attacks people.

And they have evidenced benefits to health of people who have them.

Cute and good for your health?! Can’t say that about much in life.

There are many crappy owners out there. Dog breeds that require training and proper socialising bought by idiots who plan to do neither.

The XL bully is different in that I don’t believe they should be kept by anyone and existing ones either rounded up and kept somewhere until they naturally die off, or I think they should all be destroyed.

The hygiene thing makes no sense to me unless you plan on licking the bottom 12 inches of a lamp post. I think if owning a dog was detrimental to health in terms of hygiene, we would have a spate of unwell dog owners and that just doesn’t happen.

They can be and are great companions for lonely folk as well as being service animals. They can teach children about responsibility. They get people out in the open and walking in all weathers and well, they are just so bloody cute that they make me smile when they’re around. I can’t wait to get one.

I admit I have a hierarchy of animals. I won’t eat dogs, cats or horses. Or squid, actually.

It’s not something I feel great about, and I have been vegetarian for periods of my life, but I admire you for being vegan - I wish I had the strength.

I don’t eat meat a lot, but it’s still not zero, and my dog does - I found some veggie dog food and some made from insects but it was mad expensive.

Most of your issues with dogs seem to be with crappy owners, and your opinions on hygiene. Don’t really see how piss on a lamppost is an issue, but I guess if you want to climb it, it might be annoying.

They also bring joy and health benefits to loads of areas - immune system, mental health, cardiovascular health etc.

Some maul people to death, others give disabled people freedom and sniff out cancer.

And rounding back to the original point of this thread, the menace that they are.

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/25005885.footage-shows-moment-binman-attacked-dog-street/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJA8ehleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHYTTipQHwR8nvLkLcv-vXaYRJHQ08W9ybOmnJ21fo0f5MPVchdMhu4JoFg_aem_OoRp9yYGYFXTYoZ4u1aP5A

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/two-dogs-including-xl-bully-put-down-after-man-attacked-in-early-hours-in-leven-fife?fbclid=IwY2xjawJA8iFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHa9KJ_MPxmvoByvleoOttAOEwFzjXVJtLyS_HMd-sV_Goyl4NhjRPSkg_Q_aem_kysp3ZZ_wxEHuHE_tAqxpA

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/man-forced-choke-dog-death-10020540?fbclid=IwY2xjawJA8jxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHaCT9VFT9SxFzt2dA7mf7zlRg4cODdP64QqMro5e03PglJ0JJydI-c2hXA_aem_kO-lpZ5DTrN0T39AcG0xkA

I love nature, I love seeing animals in the wild, love birdwatching and seeing the squirrels in my garden.

I cannot stand dogs, their noise, their smell, their simping, their slobbery tongues, seeing little piddly yellow piss by the lamposts and trees, the shit they leave on the pavement or in the playpark, or on the beach, or on a nice walk on the common, but mostly, I can't stand dog culture, dogs being in cafes and shops and the cinema and schools.

However, I don't think it's weird if people don't like animals. I think it IS weird to fawn over a dog, let it in your home, run your life around a dog, spend that amount of money on a dog, be cool with billions of other animals being slaughtered to feed Fido, just because your dog matters and they don't. That's very weird, to me, especially when people pronounce themselves animal lovers.

Birds of a feather and all that.

Most people I’ve met who don’t like dogs (only a few) have changed over the years I’ve known them or say things like ‘Fido (not my dog’s real name) is different. I love Fido’.

So either my dog is the best in the world (likely) or lots of people dislike the idea of dogs but soften when they spend time around them.

Because how could you not?!

Unless you don’t like any animals. Then you are weird.

They are used by a few people in America but can’t see them fitting in the average UK home.

I would love a therapy pony.

This thread just adds evidence to my theory that anyone who doesn’t like dogs is best avoided.

I dislike dogs intensely. But most of my acquaintances don't know this. I don't go round declaring it. But occasionally, if I am in a conversation with someone and it is relevant, I'll say "I'm not a dog fan", and surprisingly often, they state they nor are they, but it's not the done thing to speak this out loud, for fear of being branded weird ("ooh, can't trust someone who doesn't like dogs" etc crap). There are more people who don't like dogs than dog people would like to imagine. I now know many people who actively can't stand dogs.

I saw that bat shit thread too.
I agreed I’ve made lots of what I think are logical arguments against banning dogs but they were all ignored in favour of a constant “but they’re disgusting” line of reply but dressed up with different words.
I have never met anyone in real life who hates dogs. I know people that are indifferent to them, sure. But they don’t hate them.

Am I drunk or did someone suggest upthread that miniature horses would be better than guide dogs for the blind??

There was another thread where the OP was being a massive racist saying that kids not being allowed to play with the opposite sex was against British values.

I think being anti dog to the extreme of some of the posters here is against British values.

It’s times like these we need a written constitution and item 5 should be about loving dogs or pissing off.

The anti dog opinions are so extreme that I am convinced they’re winding us up.

Dogs will never be banned, it’ll never ever happen. I don’t trust people who don’t like dogs

And dogs in all the other roles?

I know someone who has several sausages dogs. One is the Vitality ad dog, and is also a trained sniffer dog. The rest are also trained sniffer dogs. She has a collie cross who is trained to sniff for missing people. She has many dogs and they all have jobs or have been in film/TV.

Bit slavey, innit!

Anyway, here you go:
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Who is funding research into replacing dogs in those roles? No one, because dogs do the job just fine.

Robot dogs are available and also miniature horses can be used as guide animals.

I am sure the scientists will develop ways. Heck, if we hadn't wasted so much money on guide dogs up to now, we'd probably have a better solution. Same for sniffer dogs. I am sure robots can replace them all.

Exactly. Or police dogs, or detection dogs, or fire service dogs, or search and rescue dogs, or cadaver dogs…🙄

Just read about baby Mia O’Connell upthread. That’s horrendous. I was wrong to think that small dogs aren’t a serious threat to humans.

Not sure how you'd replace a guide dog

My DD was bitten by a dachshund last year. It’s an aggressive little thing. That said, I’m not worrying that it will kill someone.

FFS, if you don't like dogs, then don't have one. They bring joy to their owners and can enrich their lives. There is no need to call people who have dogs brainwashed. No need at all.

Exactly!

hey! Would you like a slobbery stinky beast in your home, anus out, dragging around on your flooring and soft furnishings? Would you like to pay several hundred £ a month for the privilege? Would you like your house to smell of dog? Would you like slobber on your walls/soft furnishings? Would you like to be bitten? Potentially mauled to death? Lose a limb, sometimes? Would you like to pick up poo in a plastic bag? Would you like to be restricted in your comings and goings?
I truly think dog people are brainwashed.