Woman 19 dies in dog attack

But they ARE “different from any other large breed”, except the small number of other large breeds that have also been specifically bred for aggression, with very intentional in-breeding and line-breeding to maximise that specific trait. That neither your friend, her husband, nor you in her defence, can understand that is one of the reasons we are where we are. And why so many children and adults, known to the dog or complete strangers, have died unimaginably horrific deaths at the jaws of a breed that absolutely has to be wiped out.

Also from that article "Police were at the property all night and at one point a man and his dog turned up to accuse them of animal cruelty shouting 'it's a disgrace'. He was warned he would be arrested if he continued his protest."

Animal cruelty???

Awful dog owned by awful person. I hope they throw the book at her

The breed will naturally disappear in the UK over the next few years, as dogs die and the breeding ban means no replacement. There absolutely does need to be a focus on enforcing the law in the meantime IMO

There are still plenty of the first four breeds to be banned that have exemption certificates, I have no idea how though. Whilst I'd like them all culled tomorrow I can't see how any new exemption certificated should be being issued now, let alone in ten years time.

These dogs give me anxiety, luckily I haven't come across one when out and about. (yet) Genuinely would feel terrified if I saw one when out with my children, in fact in half term we were at the park and I clocked a dog off lead on its way over, at first glance I thought it was an XL and could feel my heart racing, when it got closer realised it wasn't thank god, may seem over the top to some but they really really scare me.
And I have a GSD. so not afraid of dogs. I've been around Rottweilers & Staffys but think XL bully's are something else. It is the breed, it's in their DNA to kill. They are almost impossible to stop once they attack. That is terrifying.
On that basis 100% wish they could all be PTS!

So she is ONLY screaming and crying that her violent killer dog has been put to sleep by a vet-

She didn’t mention her poor cousin who was slaughtered so terribly.

Pit owners are not like other dog owners- they are completely antisocial and irresponsible.

Neighbours said it was never walked- just taken into the yard to relieve itself and then taken indoors again.

Anecdotally my husband's uncle was bitten very badly a couple of months ago by his neighbours XL bully, he was in hospital for almost 2 weeks, has had to have several surgeries and will be lucky to be able to walk normally again. He's a big man too, if it had been a child they'd probably have been killed.

Her dog literally mauled her cousin to death and she's shouting that "they killed my dog"?!? A dog she's presumably just watched inflict hideous pain and suffering, ending in death??

There are no words for some people.

The thing is a lot of the sort of people who would want an XL bully don't give a shit about laws or licences.

In this case the woman didn't take her bully out for walks (presumably as she didn't want to muzzle it, but maybe she's just a shit dog owner) and didn't have it registered. So licences and the like would make zero difference. There would still be a black market for dangerous dogs. Maybe it would reduce numbers slightly.

I'd bet money on breeders still breeding XL even though it's illegal. If you can make money out of it, people will do it.

If I see one of these dogs I'd cross the street or leave the park immediately.

Reading this thread is so very interesting tbh. It’s definitely reinforcing my view that 99.8% of people have no clue about dogs and are idiots. 0.1% are just idiots, full stop. And 0.1% have a brain.

The idiocy of humans astounds me. Sometimes I wonder how we all still exist - natural selection should have finished us off years ago.

Following your logic, we need a cull of humans.

I don't understand this country's obsession with dogs. They are only animals. If any other animal was killing so many people, there'd have been a cull by now.

This is the sort of dangerous view that leads to dog attacks. A pet is not suitable if it has ANY potential to bite or attack in whatever circumstances. And if it cannot coexist with children then it should be rehomed.

Why were the parents / owner not supervising the child?

Someone is to blame.

"They killed my dog!!" 🤦🏼‍♀️

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14444091/Owner-XL-bully-dog-attacked-killed-19-year-old-cousin-staying-flat.html

I’ve only ever come across a very placid and well socialised one, so I can’t say I have experienced anything bad from them but the stories speak for themselves and it isn’t a coincidence. They seem to be the furthest from domestication than any of the other breeds we are used to and their strength is staggering.

This is very true, the majority of times it is a woman or a child.

No she was kept separate from that one and saw him as a threat although he is a complete softy which worked in his favour because he would never try to attack her back

they look like the dog version of an orc, the same dead eyes, mouths full of very sharp teeth and an air of savagery. Shame they are not fictitious.

I remember our local rag doing a feature about a woman choosing a first pet for her two little kids. Did she opt for a hamster? maybe she chose a kitten or a labrador pup, no of course she didn't, her animal of choice to live with her and her family was an XL Bully! Apparently, she thought they were a gentle, child-friendly and much maligined breed. Some people just have no sense

I don't. Dogs rarely attack out of the blue. It is usually after they have displayed certain body language, and a bite is the last resort. It is the ultimate "leave me alone".

I know a chap whose deaf dog bit a child. His dog was fast asleep, and the child sat on on the dog, startling it, and it bit the kid on the face.
Was that dog dangerous, and needing to be destroyed? Or was it reacting normally?

Firstly, my advise was aimed generally at all dog attacks but actually, yes - I know for a fact that when faced with the possible death of your child or yourself from an XL bully, people have come up with some immense strength and clarity of mind and been able to manage the situation - though I don’t think they should ever have to!

lashing out is absolutely the right thing to do, just try more precise lashing out to have maximum effect. It’s akin to personal defence training. You could just lash out blindly or be taught the best places to hit.

Was your other dog not part of her 'own pack'?

I totally agree with you on this. In my mind they're not even dogs, they're just killing machines.

https://caerphilly.observer/news/1029972/i-keep-going-for-him-mother-reflects-on-two-years-since-the-death-of-son-jack-lis/
You're right to be concerned