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My friend keeps pushing ADHD onto her child

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ow26x · 27/02/2025 12:02

I know this may make me sound mad but I just need clarification that it’s not just me or maybe I just pick up on things easily. So last year I explained to my friend that I think my child, who was 3 at the time, now 4, might have ADHD as he shows the common symptoms. Personally I feel like he is too young to get labeled with anything but he pretty much ticks every box and his father was diagnosed at the age of 6. However, ever since I have mentioned this to my friend, every time I see her she has started mentioning how she now believes her now 5 year old has ADHD, she pushed for his nursery to keep an eye on him but they deemed no issues but now her son is in reception, she has now pushed it onto reception. Personally I don’t think her son has ADHD as nether her or his father has it, despite them both claiming to but they definitely have traits of autism between them, her son isn’t fidgety, he sits for hours on end on an iPad, which I disagree with massively & I find his hyper activity being due to being bored as the only place he goes is school and home again. Never the less, I just find it mad how she never mentioned it before until I said something about my son. Am I being crazily unreasonable to say it’s driving me mad every time I see her, it makes me not want to go around anymore. I think she may have munchausen by proxy or is simply looking for attention/more free money 🤦🏻‍♀️.

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C0bea · 02/03/2025 06:32

Genevieva · 02/03/2025 06:28

Maybe you should both stop psychologising your children and let them be themselves. School will tell you if there are any issues.

They really won’t. I kept telling my DD’s school something wasn’t right and I was dismissed as “that”parent. Several years later she has 4x NHS diagnosis and an EHCP. SEN boards are littered with similar tales.

Genevieva · 02/03/2025 06:28

Maybe you should both stop psychologising your children and let them be themselves. School will tell you if there are any issues.

Catlad · 02/03/2025 05:06

ow26x · 27/02/2025 12:36

@NotTheDebtDoctorWithTheHungryScalpel no I think I’ll leave it for her to decide whether I am a friend or not as I’m the only one who is actually supportive with her, even when I don’t agree with her. Hence why I came on here to make a comment instead of being a mean person. Which I’m not.

OP I feel sorry for your friend; I wish she knew how you really think about her. Maybe it’s your own neurodivergence that makes you fail to understand what people are saying, but this is a weird way to feel about someone you purportedly care about and support.

crankytoes · 01/03/2025 08:19

ow26x · 27/02/2025 15:45

@crankytoes because that’s my opinion & as much as you might not agree with it I am entitled to my opinion. I haven’t said they don’t have adhd they have autism, I’ve said they show symptoms of autism. Your just to sensitive for me to have a mature conversation with 😂

An opinion is something formed from knowledge and frankly you don't have that. You are not qualified. You don't have the experience, expertise or knowledge to make the statements you make. What you are stating is a called prejudice or conjecture. They aren't the same thing as an opinion at all.

Intelligent qualified people have opinions.
The wailing masses have prejudice and conjecture. You see it every day on the Daily Mail

Oioisavaloy27 · 28/02/2025 14:37

Maybe she has munchausens after all you know her a lot better than we do.

2025NewUserName · 28/02/2025 13:26

Maybe she had concerns about her own child and that when you mentioned it about yours she felt you were a safe person to talk to?

Journeyintomelody · 28/02/2025 13:23

Maybe, since you brought it up, she thinks you are happy to have conversations about something you are both going through. As you know, hyperfixating on something IS a symptom of both ADHD and ASD. I wouldn't have thought for a second she is trying to 'beat you to it'. In the kindest possible way, you need to gain some perspective. If you don't like her, then stop seeing her. If you don't want to talk about ADHD, then communicate that to her. You are having a big reaction to something quite small, perhaps have a think about that. (Not trying to be mean)

TheFunHare · 27/02/2025 19:01

I know not the point of your message but do think through the fact you don't want to diagnose and label your child with adhd so early. I do understand that but waiting lists are hideous and if you leave it until you have an issue you may find they get considerably worse whilst you have to wait for appointments. You don't have to do anything or necessarily even tell your child but having a diagnosis in your back pocket makes it easier to get help when you need it. If you see how busy their bodies are their poor little minds are working just as hard too and it's exhausting.

potatodumpling · 27/02/2025 18:35

Years ago, I knew a mum a bit like this when one of my children was going through the diagnosis treadmill. It was a bit like a "keeping up with the Joneses" type thing. It was bizarre, I couldn't make any sense of it.
In the end she made some racist remarks about names in the kids' reading books (knowing full well that I am mixed race - my actual name is one of the ones she was moaning about!) and then said something amazingly rude about a teacher who had been kind and helpful to me, and I snapped and said that it was probably best we didn't have play dates any more. I'd forgotten all about her until reading your post!

Partybaggage · 27/02/2025 17:46

You don't have the monopoly on adhd. If she feels that might fit her kid, who are you to say it doesn't?

I think you should do her a favour and cut contact.

flowerrrrpoweerr · 27/02/2025 16:40

I'm glad you're not my 'friend'

Friends like you, who needs enemies?!

treesandsun · 27/02/2025 16:33

Why are you 'friends' with someone you clearly do not like?

MissDoubleU · 27/02/2025 15:56

Like I said before, it’s very clear you need to take a step back from this woman. Your relationship sounds toxic, you don’t need to be talking for hours every day. Do neither of you have your own hobbies or interests..?

Surely you just say “Look Susan, we’ve discussed the ADHD thing. Either seek diagnosis/treatment or don’t. There’s nothing more to say about it, we’ve talking it to death. Have you listened to the new X album/watched that movie/read something/drawn anything today?”

ow26x · 27/02/2025 15:51

@MissDoubleU actually upon thinking about everything you’ve wrote. I do think resentment is the wrong word but it’s just almost like I can’t be assed listening to it anymore. As it’s just been so long and no progress has been made from her. Is she that concerned for her child? Or is it just an attention seeking methods she’s using against people?..

I would love to simply focus on my child but when it’s a daily conversation about her child & the same statements are being made it does eventually become draining. Which I think anyone would agree with. No I don’t feel guilty at all, I’m happy with the way my child is right now, he has an amazing active childhood and he doesn’t need to be labelled for people to treat him differently then what they do now.

ps, I also never labeled her a bad mum, that was everyone else’s assumption from reading that her child sits on an iPad for hours on end.. because he does, or again, would you want me to lie? 🤷🏻‍♀️

& opinions aren’t harmful. If you take offence to people’s opinions then I’m afraid you probably won’t get anywhere in life. People are entitled to think/say whatever they want about you, it’s down to you to be mature enough to brush it off & carry on with you life

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MissDoubleU · 27/02/2025 15:46

ow26x · 27/02/2025 15:45

@crankytoes because that’s my opinion & as much as you might not agree with it I am entitled to my opinion. I haven’t said they don’t have adhd they have autism, I’ve said they show symptoms of autism. Your just to sensitive for me to have a mature conversation with 😂

You do know many people actually have both..?

ow26x · 27/02/2025 15:45

@crankytoes because that’s my opinion & as much as you might not agree with it I am entitled to my opinion. I haven’t said they don’t have adhd they have autism, I’ve said they show symptoms of autism. Your just to sensitive for me to have a mature conversation with 😂

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MissDoubleU · 27/02/2025 15:44

ow26x · 27/02/2025 15:27

@MissDoubleU in all honesty I don’t feel resentment towards her, I hope she gets the help she believes her child needs, there isn’t a thing in the world I wouldn’t do for her or her children. And whatever the outcome of her child’s diagnosis is I would be there to support her. I simply don’t want to push that onto my child just yet but like say we are different and view things differently. I just find it mad how she’s so adamant her child has it and simply shuts down anyone who has a different opinion. You may be right in some sense but as a friend, I just don’t want her to be making a fool of herself & really wanted clarification that I wasn’t going insane on the whole topic because despite me telling her it’s alls we seem to talk about, it doesn’t seem to register with her (even if that makes me sound like a mean person, I don’t mean to be) but never the less I’ll still have the same conversations over & over again because that’s what friends do is it not..

The resentment is screaming as soon as you talk about she’s the type to claim any “free money” she can get and suggest that’s at the root of why she wants to “push this” agenda on her perfectly neurotypical child.

Leave her to claim what she wants, if professionals come back and say she’s wrong she can deal with it as and when. Recognising her child needs additional help and advocating for it never makes someone a bad mum or “grabby” either. Maybe part of your frustration is actually that you feel guilty you aren’t advocating for your child who clearly has some issues, yes? Focus on your own child and why he’s smashing the TV and the everything else, worry less about protecting your friend from the same harmful opinions you think others might have, which you already do have.

crankytoes · 27/02/2025 15:42

ow26x · 27/02/2025 13:15

@VivaVivaa what are you on about? 😂 did you even read what I actually wrote? Where have I put he 100% hasn’t? I’ve wrote ‘I don’t think’ as that’s my opinion and it’s my post looking for advice. If someone has diabetes, then yes I would label them as diabetic. That’s what it is.

& I also never wrote ‘he can’t be cause his parents aren’t’ I’ve wrote, ‘nether of them do despite claiming to, they show signs of autism, not adhd’ so maybe have a re read

Why do you think you have the authority to determine whether someone displays signs of autism or adhd or not?
The audacity is astounding

crankytoes · 27/02/2025 15:39

ow26x · 27/02/2025 12:49

@Stai i don’t know if you know this but ALOT of people claim money they shouldn’t be entitled too.

& im not mean, I just wrote what ive noticed over the past year. Is that not ok?

They can try to claim what they like but without documentation of a diagnosis they won't get far.

You said you understood how this all works.

Not very well you don't

ow26x · 27/02/2025 15:27

@MissDoubleU in all honesty I don’t feel resentment towards her, I hope she gets the help she believes her child needs, there isn’t a thing in the world I wouldn’t do for her or her children. And whatever the outcome of her child’s diagnosis is I would be there to support her. I simply don’t want to push that onto my child just yet but like say we are different and view things differently. I just find it mad how she’s so adamant her child has it and simply shuts down anyone who has a different opinion. You may be right in some sense but as a friend, I just don’t want her to be making a fool of herself & really wanted clarification that I wasn’t going insane on the whole topic because despite me telling her it’s alls we seem to talk about, it doesn’t seem to register with her (even if that makes me sound like a mean person, I don’t mean to be) but never the less I’ll still have the same conversations over & over again because that’s what friends do is it not..

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MissDoubleU · 27/02/2025 15:19

maybe being friends for 24 years would potentially mean we are alike, however me & her claim to be polar opposites

This is likely because you are silently bitter rivals, despite being very close friends. You have been entwined so long you need your own identities and resent the idea of sharing common ground. This puts you in clear competition with each other, although maybe not consciously clear to yourselves.

ow26x · 27/02/2025 15:14

@MissDoubleU well my 5 year old will happily lob a toy, smash the tv & blame it on the dog. That doesn’t mean I have any kind of issue. It more just makes me wonder if my child has something but like say, I will be keeping an eye on it and ultimately will seek help if and when I think the time is right.

& no I stated I mentioned my child shows symptoms, 1 time, over a year ago and ever since it’s almost been like she’s rushed into making sure she gets some kind of diagnosis, before even getting her child seen to by a professional.

& maybe being friends for 24 years would potentially mean we are alike, however me & her claim to be polar opposites 😂

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MissDoubleU · 27/02/2025 15:08

ow26x · 27/02/2025 14:57

@MissDoubleU I mean what I do with my child and what I think is best for my child is ultimately down to me. Same as it is for her but when she’s making it my business every time we chat and I try explaining what I think she shuts me down. & my child is hardly teeny tiny, he’s 4 & will tell me to do one if I so much as look at him funny. Sorry if your 4 year old still acts like a baby but mine is very aware and mature.

& she may well have adhd but she won’t go & get herself checked.. so she can’t claim to have something she doesn’t know can she? Same with her child, she doesn’t know her child has adhd but she’ll tell the whole world he does, without seeking medical opinions.

& let’s be actually for fucking real. She is my friend, she knows what I think of the situation, many other friends and family members have stated the same opinion as me to her so I’ve came on here to seek advice from others that don’t know her to see what people think of the situation. So no there’s nothing to be jealous or angry 🤣

My kids are teens, actually. So in relation, yes, all 4/5 year olds are bloody babies! They’re still brand new to the world. If you truly believe your child would use an accurate doctor given diagnosis to manipulate you and everyone, and therefore you should withhold said diagnosis from them, then you have bigger issues here than what your friend is doing.

Adult ADHD diagnosis on the NHS has an incredibly arduous waiting list that increases every year. In my area 4 years ago it was 2 years and now it is an expected 8 years wait for an initial appointment. It’s up to her if she wants to seek that or if she is happy with self diagnosis and figuring herself out.

You say she is happy to tell everyone her child is ADHD without seeking medical opinion, but you yourself have stated you believe your own child is and also have defended refusing your child the same medical opinion.

Is your real problem that you and your friend are just far, far too alike? Because that’s very common.

elliejjtiny · 27/02/2025 15:04

It's difficult to say that a child has a disability or not when you don't live with them. Even dh, who understands that ds1 has autism, is baffled as to why he gets PIP. A lot of disabled children are easy to look after for an hour or 2, it's the sleepless nights, endless paperwork and trying to organise fun things to do for a child in a world that is not designed for them that is the really hard bit.

ow26x · 27/02/2025 15:00

@hazelnutvanillalatte yep because she does? Or would you rather I lied and still seek advice? Sorry for portraying her image so you understand who she is without explaining the girls entire life. Or are you a liar?

& yep as I have stated many times before, my lack of knowledge is literally the reason I am here seeking advice and others opinions as for me I once got taught the ‘common’ knowledge to which isn’t always correct.

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