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Headteachers personal dog in playground whats your opinion

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Grk · 27/02/2025 09:11

Just wondering what's your thoughts
Our headteacher will sometimes bring her dog to work with her some days and takes it from classroom to classroom and the lunch hall, she also brings it on the playground at morning drop off and afternoon pick up . This dog is a rescue personal pet, it is not a professional emotional/ support/ assistant dog (I know this as im within the school)
This really bothers me both as a parent and a colleague for many reasons
Health and safety, allergies, children are also scared of dogs, dog looks anxious and scared, hygiene issues - the children also play on the playground at playtime and lunch often sitting on the ground , and the main one being parents of the school are not allowed to bring their dogs onto the playground and this has been communicated numerous times it's not really setting an example.

Am I thinking too much into this or would this bother you also ?

OP posts:
Peoplearebloodyidiots · 28/02/2025 06:09

You sound highly strung and should chill out.

Toomanysquishmallows · 28/02/2025 06:05

@BogRollBOGOF , I agree with every word of your post . My two dc are autistic as well.

sometimesmovingforwards · 28/02/2025 05:58

For me it smacks of ‘do as I say, not as I do’ and ‘rules are for them because they need it, I’m more intelligent so above all that’.
But the fact it’s within a teaching setting doesn’t surprise me, a lot of them assume they’re levitating amongst us mere mortals.

BogRollBOGOF · 28/02/2025 05:45

My children had far too many unpleasant encounters with "friendly" dogs early in childhood. Owners of "friendly" dogs taught my autistic child that dogs are an unpredictable threat. Being autistic, he does not want to change and like dogs. Now as a teenager, he's now benefiting from size advantage and his strong dislike of dogs has little impact on his life now he isn't being bowled over, having picnics raided or having his sticks snatched from his hands.

Normal range spider phobia is far more disruptive to life, yet I doubt most people would appreciate me putting a house spider on them and laughingly saying that it won't hurt them and they need to get over it.

It's not the right and obligation of soppy dog owners to convert others into loving their animals.

Properly trained and managed therapy dogs have their place, and children need the physical and emotional space to learn to cope with them and work through their emotions. A staff member bringing in their rescue dog is not that situation.

DS1 certainly wasn't the only child in his class to struggle with the presence of dogs. Schools should be safe places, not Room 101 style aversion therapy for the primary benefit of the owner's pet care issues.

Toomanysquishmallows · 28/02/2025 04:53

@Tabbsi , a genuine question, why do children have to like dogs ? It seems to be coming up a lot on this thread .

Tabbsi · 28/02/2025 01:25

namechangetheworld · 27/02/2025 11:37

Unhygienic and unprofessional. My youngest is absolutely terrified of dogs and would constantly be on edge. I would make a complaint to the school and I'm generally very relaxed. I'm absolutely sick of dogs and their lingering smell constantly being forced upon us all in cafes, pubs and shops, and us all being expected to accept it with a smile. Absolutely no reason for them to be in a school.

Edited

That’s such a sad attitude to have towards dogs :( no doubt it’s an attitude that will be passed onto your children, so if anything this sort of thing is great - teaches children that dogs can be wonderful animals worthy of respect and not all to be feared, even if their parents think otherwise!

BigSilly · 27/02/2025 22:20

The number of people on this thread wlho seem to think a headteacher would have somehow been too stupid to risk assess this activity, to consider insurance and allergies is disturbing.

flowerrrrpoweerr · 27/02/2025 16:36

I think if you don't like the headteacher and their leadership or the culture of the school you should think about leaving a finding a place which you like working in.
Life's too short to be unhappy at work.
I don't think the dog has anything to do with your unhappiness, it's like when you are unhappy in a relationship, everything they do is annoying.

Children deserve to be around people with positive attitudes at school.

Twonewcats · 27/02/2025 16:26

Grk · 27/02/2025 16:24

Yes but Im certain it wouldn't stay anonymous there's been numerous situations things have meant to be done anonymously but they don't
It can be an incredibly toxic place at times

But it can be anonymous if you don't put your name to it, and tell nobody. Just say you're a concerned adult

Grk · 27/02/2025 16:24

Twonewcats · 27/02/2025 16:17

Have you considered reporting it anonymously to a higher level? eg asking if this has been approved?

Edited

Yes but Im certain it wouldn't stay anonymous there's been numerous situations things have meant to be done anonymously but they don't
It can be an incredibly toxic place at times

OP posts:
Twonewcats · 27/02/2025 16:17

Grk · 27/02/2025 15:59

No one has said anything hence I'm wondering if it's just me it bothers

Have you considered reporting it anonymously to a higher level? eg asking if this has been approved?

Grk · 27/02/2025 15:59

HelenWheels · 27/02/2025 12:13

@Grk what do your colleagues say?

No one has said anything hence I'm wondering if it's just me it bothers

OP posts:
pinkdelight · 27/02/2025 15:57

I wonder if any dog bites to pupils would be insured for?

Good point.

dammit88 · 27/02/2025 15:53

I think this is a lovely thing. We share our world with animals. I imagine the vast majority of children love it.

IsawwhatIsaw · 27/02/2025 15:13

BigSilly · 27/02/2025 11:30

Do you really not think she will know if there are allergic children?
What does the op think she can 'do' about it anyway. It is the headteacher's job is to run the school, not yours!

I wouldn’t automatically assume she does know about allergies.
OPs post title suggests the dog is in the playground only, whereas it seems to be inside classrooms and the lunch hall.

Two issues. Children not liking /afraid of dogs. And those children with allergies. Of course these can range from sneezing to asthma/ breathing issues.
And yes it’s the Heads job to run the school, prioritising the needs of all the children there not to facilitate her needs and those of her dog. To avoid paying for a dog walker.

Toomanysquishmallows · 27/02/2025 13:53

@HelenWheels , it hasn’t particularly restricted their lives not liking dogs . Obviously if it was a severe phobia it would be different, but they can’t be forced to like them .

caringcarer · 27/02/2025 13:28

Any dog can bite if feeling under stress or unwell but not showing obvious symptoms. I wonder if any dog bites to pupils would be insured for? I wouldn't like it.

namechangetheworld · 27/02/2025 13:16

RachelLikesTea · 27/02/2025 13:09

This country is going dog-mad, it really is ridiculous. If this completely selfish arrangement had been allowed when I was in school, I would not have been able to attend that school any longer (very allergic to dogs as a child). Absolutely shouldn't be allowed.

I don't think the whole of the UK is dog mad (only 36% of households own one) but unfortunately the majority of dog owners are breaktakingly entitled and think the entire universe should learn to accomodate their pet.

A headteacher abusing their position of power by bringing their pet to work, knowing full well most colleagues and parents will be too concerned about any backlash to protest, is unacceptable.

SnoozingFox · 27/02/2025 13:14

Come on.

The head is not doing this because she thinks it's positive to have a dog in the school to help children with anxiety or to promote a home from home environment.

She is doing it because she can't be arsed training her dog to be left at home, and is too tight to pay for a dog walker/sitter.

Dogs do not belong in schools.

pinkdelight · 27/02/2025 13:11

Youbutterbelieve · 27/02/2025 12:58

I don't have an issue with this in theory, dependent on allergies within the school. The temperament of the dog would be my biggest concern.

A teacher at our old school did this with her cavalier and it worked really well.

What a cavalier attitude!

(sorry, couldn't resist)

RachelLikesTea · 27/02/2025 13:09

This country is going dog-mad, it really is ridiculous. If this completely selfish arrangement had been allowed when I was in school, I would not have been able to attend that school any longer (very allergic to dogs as a child). Absolutely shouldn't be allowed.

ridl14 · 27/02/2025 13:04

Grk · 27/02/2025 09:11

Just wondering what's your thoughts
Our headteacher will sometimes bring her dog to work with her some days and takes it from classroom to classroom and the lunch hall, she also brings it on the playground at morning drop off and afternoon pick up . This dog is a rescue personal pet, it is not a professional emotional/ support/ assistant dog (I know this as im within the school)
This really bothers me both as a parent and a colleague for many reasons
Health and safety, allergies, children are also scared of dogs, dog looks anxious and scared, hygiene issues - the children also play on the playground at playtime and lunch often sitting on the ground , and the main one being parents of the school are not allowed to bring their dogs onto the playground and this has been communicated numerous times it's not really setting an example.

Am I thinking too much into this or would this bother you also ?

Head at my previous school used to do this and also bring dog through the lunch hall 🤢 I thought it was really unhygienic including walking dog on the playground. Plus it didn't account for children with allergies

Youbutterbelieve · 27/02/2025 12:58

I don't have an issue with this in theory, dependent on allergies within the school. The temperament of the dog would be my biggest concern.

A teacher at our old school did this with her cavalier and it worked really well.

Twonewcats · 27/02/2025 12:57

I am astounded at all the posters saying how normal this is! I've never ever heard of a HT bringing their dog to school!

Anyway, I'd have thought that if this has all been risk assessed and approved, then surely this should have been communicated with staff and parents before just bringing it in daily?

As with many prev posts, there is no way that a dog roaming around a school would have been fine with me when I was younger. If it was on a lead with an adult when in public areas, yes I might have learned to like it or accept it. But having had zero experience of dogs, even a happy excited one would have overwhelmed me totally, esp if I encountered it in a corridor when on my own.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 27/02/2025 12:56

pinkdelight · 27/02/2025 12:05

Why do they have to like dogs? And why assume it's a changeable thing? Are you going to stop liking dogs? Nope, so no need to think people who don't like them are wrong and just waiting for blessed enlightenment to start liking them.

Well, if you insist on hating something then up to you.

Dislike away if it makes your life happier and more fulfilled.