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Why do some parents not engage with school?! Asking as a teacher!

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Purpleturtle43 · 26/02/2025 19:00

I teach a Y1 class and have been a teacher for 20 years. Never have I experienced a class where parents are so unsupportive with regards to homework and providing what they need for class!

The majority of kids don't do their homework or do a really poor job of it. Most days when I ask the children to bring their reading books out at least 5 don't have them despite parents being told weekly the children need their books in school every day as we do daily reading. Many children also so they don't read their reading books at home.

Many parents don't provide their children when the necessary stuff for school for example pencils, indoor shoes, gym kits etc. meaning so much time is spent searching for spare things and we don't have enough supplies to go around.

I am a parent of 3 school aged children and totally understand the struggle, believe me the last thing I feel like doing when I get home all day from teaching kids is to do homework with my own but I always make sure it's done and kids have what they need for school.

I am just getting to the point where I wonder why I am bothering. It takes ages to look out reading books and to prepare homework and upload it online, it all just feels like a big waste of time.

If you don't engage with school can I ask why to give me some insight so I can think of some strategies that may work. I teach in an affluent area so money isn't usually a problem and the school I work in is very mindful of not asking for much, just the basics and we would definitely provide assistance when required.

OP posts:
PyongyangKipperbang · 27/02/2025 21:07

bakebeans · 27/02/2025 21:01

That’s very sad. Your little ones will only be little once and you will never have that time again. I used to ignore ironing in order to read to my kids. Favourite time of night. Id iron after they were asleep.

Edited

Oh well good for you. If life was that easy for everyone then threads like this, and indeed MN itself, would not exist.

Empathy might be a look you want to try, as smug doesnt suit you.

ThriveAT · 27/02/2025 21:06

Havinganamechange · 27/02/2025 20:49

I am an involved parent but by the time I get home from work, play with my child, bath and feed them, they are tired and ready for bed. Alongside with all the stuff I need to do including ironing, keeping on top of washing, cooking etc, we don’t have time for homework or reading.

Reading for pleasure is a beautiful, bonding, life-affirming experience. Maybe try to do it every other day.

bakebeans · 27/02/2025 21:01

Havinganamechange · 27/02/2025 20:49

I am an involved parent but by the time I get home from work, play with my child, bath and feed them, they are tired and ready for bed. Alongside with all the stuff I need to do including ironing, keeping on top of washing, cooking etc, we don’t have time for homework or reading.

That’s very sad. Your little ones will only be little once and you will never have that time again. I used to ignore ironing in order to read to my kids. Favourite time of night. Id iron after they were asleep.

JSMill · 27/02/2025 20:59

Even if you just read at the weekend, it would be something. Plus read with your child at bedtime to encourage a love of reading and books. So few of my pupils do that now. Apart from the links with reading books and academic attainment, reading can give you so much pleasure.

summerlovingvibes · 27/02/2025 20:53

I'm fine with things like spellings. But when my Y1 child is sent home with a task like "build an insect hotel" etc it doesn't happen. Homework tasks like this are for parents, not the children. I have other younger children, work, a sick MIL, a million other family things going on. The last thing I am going to make time for is homework tasks for parents.
Spellings, fine. Homework which the children actually have to do, fine. Giant homework tasks for Y1 children that clearly they wouldn't be able to actually do - not fine!

TheMoment · 27/02/2025 20:51

Sympathy OP. It does drag you down as it does seem as if lots of society have given up and just do not care or have self respect. No pride anymore and many just expect schools and other services to do everything. Shameless and drags the country down.

Covidwoes · 27/02/2025 20:50

@Stepfordian we are the same, and we still manage to read. DD sometimes enjoys reading in the bath, with me holding the book! She also likes doing it snuggled up in bed with me.

Havinganamechange · 27/02/2025 20:49

I am an involved parent but by the time I get home from work, play with my child, bath and feed them, they are tired and ready for bed. Alongside with all the stuff I need to do including ironing, keeping on top of washing, cooking etc, we don’t have time for homework or reading.

JSMill · 27/02/2025 20:43

Not reading at home really pisses me off. It takes ten minutes. It's a fact that children who read regularly at home make better progress. It's the most important thing.
I have lost count of the number of times over the years that I have had a parent claim the child doesn't read because they find the books boring. I then take time with the child to carefully select a book they like and they still don't f&@king read it at home.
Funnily enough we have no problem with our pupils going on Numbots or TT Rockstars because they require minimal supervision.

LeopardsANeutral · 27/02/2025 20:43

We have a Y1 child and never do homework. We read with her every day but other than that I don't agree with it at this age. By the time she's got home from school, had a snack and a chill, possibly a swimming lesson, dinner, a bath etc, she's exhausted and we don't have time!I'm not going to make her do extra work on top of all that, she's still only 5.

Meandkids · 27/02/2025 20:34

Purpleturtle43 · 26/02/2025 19:00

I teach a Y1 class and have been a teacher for 20 years. Never have I experienced a class where parents are so unsupportive with regards to homework and providing what they need for class!

The majority of kids don't do their homework or do a really poor job of it. Most days when I ask the children to bring their reading books out at least 5 don't have them despite parents being told weekly the children need their books in school every day as we do daily reading. Many children also so they don't read their reading books at home.

Many parents don't provide their children when the necessary stuff for school for example pencils, indoor shoes, gym kits etc. meaning so much time is spent searching for spare things and we don't have enough supplies to go around.

I am a parent of 3 school aged children and totally understand the struggle, believe me the last thing I feel like doing when I get home all day from teaching kids is to do homework with my own but I always make sure it's done and kids have what they need for school.

I am just getting to the point where I wonder why I am bothering. It takes ages to look out reading books and to prepare homework and upload it online, it all just feels like a big waste of time.

If you don't engage with school can I ask why to give me some insight so I can think of some strategies that may work. I teach in an affluent area so money isn't usually a problem and the school I work in is very mindful of not asking for much, just the basics and we would definitely provide assistance when required.

Honestly you do an amazing job and if you didn’t ask for this next year when these kids are not managing in year 1, they will blame you! . So I would keep going and doing this great job. Some of the parents really appreciate the work you are putting in. Shame parents don’t feel the same way.. parenting is educating your kids as well..,

pearbottomjeans · 27/02/2025 20:22

Stepfordian · 27/02/2025 20:20

I tried to explain to my dds teacher that we get in at 6 and she goes to bed at 7, in that 1 hour she has to eat, bath and get ready for bed so although we can’t guarantee she’ll do reading through the week we always do it at the weekend, she just kept repeating read with her 3 times through the week and wrote it in the book, we kept doing it at the weekend and she just keeps writing in the book to do it 3 times during the week, so frankly she can take a running jump.

Just write in the book 3x a week even if you don’t do the reading, honestly this micromanagement and tunnel vision from the teacher……. 🙄

Stepfordian · 27/02/2025 20:20

I tried to explain to my dds teacher that we get in at 6 and she goes to bed at 7, in that 1 hour she has to eat, bath and get ready for bed so although we can’t guarantee she’ll do reading through the week we always do it at the weekend, she just kept repeating read with her 3 times through the week and wrote it in the book, we kept doing it at the weekend and she just keeps writing in the book to do it 3 times during the week, so frankly she can take a running jump.

Aweecupofteaandabiscuit · 27/02/2025 20:05

I think if you took a few seconds to read any of the thread you’ll find that people are supporting their children in many different ways (financially, socially, emotionally, physically etc etc) although perhaps not obediently doing what is set by the school to the detriment of all else.
School/childcare already has the lions share of waking hours of very young DC so expecting more is not reasonable.
Older DC are a different kettle of fish but I’m not sure I want to teach my 5 year old that he has even more limited time for sleep or rest or enjoyment or enrichment outside of school because we have to faff around with some ridiculous app when he’d rather be building a Lego tower or something.

MaddestGranny · 27/02/2025 19:50

Here's my two-penn'orth, having not read the whole thread, but having taught in inner city primary schools for 30+years:-

it was the Govt that forced all primary schools to set homework & then set Ofsted to inspect & report on it. Meaning that, irrespective of having any worth, everyone had to do it. In private schools, or in schools with relatively homogeneous ability intakes (read "leafy suburb"), it is possible, at least easier, to incorporate homework into primary school life. Tho' it is a big drain on teacher-time. In inner-city schools with both diverse and disadvantaged intakes, where parents have the many challenges some PPs have delineated above, it's a very different story. In any 1age-group class you can easily be looking at an ability spread of 7years. That means, to make a homework task relevant & meaningful, teacher needs to set homework at 3 different levels of ability. That takes time, thought and effort. Then: the handing out; the getting it back (that's a Homework Register that has to be kept); the marking of it; the marking register of results, etc, etc. That's teacher time. Now add in the factor of very varying family contexts, conditions and difficulties. Some coming from very "learning enabled" contexts and some from very "learning disabled" contexts.
The upshot is that, at least in the inner-city state schools I really do know about, the HOMEWORK ISSUE is something that militates against achievement & success of less "enabled" children.

It uselessly drains teacher-time away from planning for the actual teaching and learning.
For what it's worth, and I'm sure this will upset very many people:

  1. I would do away with homework prior to secondary school (except for reading at home). Releasing teachers from much meaningless activity.
  2. I would extend the school-day. Starting with 8.00 Breakfast Club; 8.30 Physical Activity/Dance; 9.00 teaching t'table; 5min "activity jump around" sessions between each lesson; return to long lunch break - time for eating and (curated?) play; return of afternoon break/playtime; extension of lessons till 4pm; after-school Clubs/PlayCentre, to include snack&drink.

Initial response from Teachers' Unions would, I guess be very hostile.
But, actually, a longer day, with better breaks, with NO HOMEWORK, would enable teachers to do what they're supposed to be doing.

The "guilt release" of very hardworking parents would be

appreciated, I'm sure.
Those parents, (they do exist, believe me) who didn't even notice any of the expectations/requirements placed on them by their child's school, might feel less pressured by "them"/"the school", so that actually a) sending their child to school b) being a parent feels like something that can be achieved.

Vynalbob · 27/02/2025 19:44

Things I would do:
Keep it to weekly give Thursdays Collect Monday (reasoning some parents say not enough time week days others don't want to deal with homework at the weekend so covers bases).
Keep books at school for the few that obviously won't do it and text for parent helpers to read in school.

Things I've seen
Reward charts/stars/stickers/tokens
Take 1/2 hour for yr 6 volunteers to read with yr1/reception.
Booster sessions
Sessions where parents are encouraged in (vary in success from many to 4/5 parents turning up)

That's off the top of my head but YANBU and if the areas affluent it would also seem odd to me.

ForeverScout · 27/02/2025 19:37

For myself - online is the first problem I noticed in the OP. Checking kids homework and helping them is near impossible on their tiny Chromebook screens, not to mention we know how much screen time is bad for us even as adults, so why are we adding more onto children?? I absolutely hate what it's doing to their attention spans, emotional regulation, ability to proof read etc. Google classroom is horrible to use and most of the time I do not want to go from my screen-heavy job to more screens at home.

So #1 - take homework offline.

For specific projects, digital is fine. Everything else - send a worksheet or books home. It is so so much easier to be involved that way as a parent.

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/02/2025 19:30

Wimin123 · 27/02/2025 19:25

Weird that parents wouldn’t support their children - looking for excuses isn’t great role modelling. Half the parents work from home now, surely that set up helps as they save on the commute etc. Such a shame, so hard to be in teaching, doing your best for your pupils.

Only 16% of people work exclusively from home.

Wimin123 · 27/02/2025 19:25

Weird that parents wouldn’t support their children - looking for excuses isn’t great role modelling. Half the parents work from home now, surely that set up helps as they save on the commute etc. Such a shame, so hard to be in teaching, doing your best for your pupils.

ForeverScout · 27/02/2025 19:23

SENDqueries · 27/02/2025 18:42

And @Catterpillarsflipflops

Don't question my productivity or my priorities.

I am a very single parent, my ex fucked off when he realised our two year old was autistic and we also had a 10 week old as he couldn't handle it. We haven't seen him since and they are 10 and 8 now. Both children have additional needs, both have EHCPs, one is awaiting a specialist placement. My one doesn't sleep, last night I got to sleep 1.45am-5.35am. 1am-7am is an amazing night sleep.

So yes, i am exhausted. Yes, I don't quite work full time but I also have to navigate appointments all the time. Next week for example, I have 3 hours of meetings at my child's school, a GP appointment for DC during my working day and an OT appointment for my DC during the working day so I have to move my work hours to after school.

I also don't do homework but I sure work on other things with my DC. Like my DS has a speech disorder as part of his needs and we work on that regularly.

I have no productivity problem, I do have a capacity problem and yes, I am exhausted.

You are amazing. Ignore whoever told you you weren't. My SIL has similar needs in her household to you, but she has a partner on good money and doesn't have to work - still their life is very very hard. I can't imagine it if she had to go it alone and put food on the table at the same time. People just have no idea at all what it can be like.

CantHoldMeDown · 27/02/2025 19:18

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Tubs11 · 27/02/2025 19:13

We have the opposite problem. The homework our Y2 teacher sets is dull as dishwater and not very engaging. Our DD has a thirst for learning so we have had to jump on board to support that. Making time for homework is definitely a pain but have to say once we found our groove its a great way to spend time together.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 27/02/2025 19:07

A lot of kids are in too many extra curricular activities.

TheBang · 27/02/2025 19:05

I honestly think for most people it’s a time thing. Also it all being on an app doesn’t help.
Our school no longer gives homework (apart from reading) but when dd was in year one they still did. It was all on the app, too small on my phone, too glitchy on our ancient tablet and to be honest too awkward for her clumsy fingers to manipulate on the screen. Then she completed everything on there and nothing else was uploaded for months and I completely forgot about it’s existence 😳 Plus I don’t like encouraging my children to use the tablet/my phone because once they’re on there doing their homework they want to sit on it playing games for the rest of the evening.

ChonkyRabbit · 27/02/2025 19:04

Oblomov25 · 27/02/2025 18:52

This is so poor. I can't grasp why these parents are like this. The ones in our primary school weren't years ago. Now ds2 doing GCSE's parents are engaged trying to help, going to parents evenings etc. why are OP's class parents so crap? I can't grasp why.

If only there was a thread with hundreds of parents explaining why.