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To think your work should leave you alone when you're ill?

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Thatsnotmynameee · 26/02/2025 18:53

I was off sick last week. Rare for me to be off, last time before last week it was 4 months ago and then 6 months before that one. I told them why I was off (standard illness) and when I would be back (few days) my manager rings me at lunchtime that day to "discuss my absence" what is the need for this?? I missed the call because I was asleep (because I was ill and been up most of the night being ill) it just seems like complete overkill. Let people rest ffs.

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mitogoshigg · 26/02/2025 21:45

3 times in one year is frequent! I've only been off 3 times in the last decade. (Obviously different if you have an underlying condition or serious illness)

2chocolateoranges · 26/02/2025 21:43

3 times off within a year would trigger a phase1 absence in my place of work.

we are expected to phone in sick day 1 day4 and day 7 after that we need a sickline from doctor and should phone in once a month to “check in”.

our workplace should not phone us as that could be seen as harassment.

ShortColdandGrey · 26/02/2025 21:42

You should be in regular contact with your line manager. Does your work not have an absence policy? For long-term sick, at my work, weekly contact is required.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 26/02/2025 21:38

That is a lot of time off. I've been ill once in 4 years. And I took that one day off reluctantly.

Californianpoppy · 26/02/2025 21:36

Thatsnotmynameee · 26/02/2025 19:04

Wow that's ridiculous. They don't believe someone could get ill 3 times in a year??!

Ill enough to be off work? That's quite a lot. I think I was last off work ,ill, in 2017. Proper, can't get out of bed, can't even read a book flu. Definitely not in this place and I've been here 7 years. Couple of funerals.

Huskytrot · 26/02/2025 21:34

BoredZelda · 26/02/2025 19:39

Being ill 3 times in a year may not be that rare. Being ill enough to miss work 3 times in a year is rare.

This. I maybe get 3 colds a year but no way would anything be bad enough to be off sick more than once every 3 yrs or so. I think my last sick day was after 1st Covid jab in 2021.

Anjelika · 26/02/2025 21:34

I'm intrigued to know how much time off sick your colleagues have if being off sick 3 times in less than a year is considered good. You'd have the worst sickness record of anyone in our office!

Songbird54321 · 26/02/2025 21:34

I'll echo others, 3 times in any rolling 12 month period triggers a meeting in my workplace.
For reference, the last time I was off sick I had hyperemesis and was signed off for months.
I have been back at work for 2 years post maternity leave and am yet to take a sick day for myself, although I have taken leave last minute a couple of times due to my children being ill. Prior to that it was probably a year prior that I was ill.
I have had colds in that time, but not enough to warrant a day off.
The majority of people in my work would have one instance of sickness a year so regardless of whether your absences were justified, I don't think it's 'normal' to be off that often.
It sounds like your manager was just following policy to check in, a common practice and nothing to get worked up about.

LegallyBlende · 26/02/2025 21:28

You rang in sick with D&V and your manager rang you back at lunchtime to discuss your absence? Wow.

I agree they should leave you alone when you are sick. If they need to discuss attendance, that is done when you are back to work.

Holdonforsummer · 26/02/2025 21:25

I don’t think being off three times in a year is ‘rare’. Where I work, managers have the right to ring up and check in with you, and to find out when you think you will be back. Saying you’ll be off for a few days sounds like you don’t even want to try and return to work - normally a person would check in every day. You might be sick but you are still being paid by the company so you still owe them communication.

luckylavender · 26/02/2025 21:25

That's a lot of sickness

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 26/02/2025 21:22

KrisAkabusi · 26/02/2025 21:18

You can self-certify for 7 days and then you need a fit note from your GP.

This isn't normal. Most companies only allow 3 days self-certification.

Tbh, I've never worked anywhere where you couldn't self certify for the first 7 days (ie for five working days) - I think this is standard?

It would be a terrible waste of GP's time to expect them to certify absences that aren't even a week old.

bakebeans · 26/02/2025 21:22

JenniferBooth · 26/02/2025 21:05

No wonder people go into work sick............which they then also get moaned at for

It’s not about the 3 days, it sounds like OP didn’t follow sickness and absence policy from the post they have put on.

GravyBoatWars · 26/02/2025 21:21

and it’s definitely not nice being harassed when sick by work

A single polite voicemail (that it seems like OP might never have even returned in 3 days) is not harrassment.

KrisAkabusi · 26/02/2025 21:18

You can self-certify for 7 days and then you need a fit note from your GP.

This isn't normal. Most companies only allow 3 days self-certification.

JenniferBooth · 26/02/2025 21:14

PeachBlossom1234 · 26/02/2025 21:07

Oh and I should just say that I worked through chemo because I only get 6 weeks sick pay before ssp kicks in and I needed to save that for when I had my breast removed!

Sorry you had to do that You shouldnt have had to

Chemo can cause horrible side effects like diarrheoa

Browsing2023 · 26/02/2025 21:14

PeachBlossom1234 · 26/02/2025 21:07

Oh and I should just say that I worked through chemo because I only get 6 weeks sick pay before ssp kicks in and I needed to save that for when I had my breast removed!

Your works terrible policies are not something to be bragged about. You should have had chemo off.

in regards to the OP. I only check in at the end of self cert and then every sickline and I text first and arrange a time. So I do think your work is being unreasonable.

However I also agree 3 times a year is not rare but depends on your job. Office worker who can WFH it’s a high absence but a manual/hospitality etc worker who needs to be there in person I would say that’s about average.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 26/02/2025 21:12

It's called duty of care.
Imagine someone rings in with cold/flu but its really MH issues for example, or someone lives alone and is really ill. Your manager expected you in work that day so does have to chase up to see how you are and make sure you're supported.
Your absence also isn't rare so maybe they're worried there's a pattern.
Everyone wants to jump down managers throats all the time when someone is off but the duty of care and attendance protocol has to be followed. I once had a person awol and being worried, I went to their home. They had a massive seizure and were very unwell and if that's me being a big jobsworth I don't care because he got the medical attention he maybe wouldn't have received otherwise

PeachBlossom1234 · 26/02/2025 21:07

Oh and I should just say that I worked through chemo because I only get 6 weeks sick pay before ssp kicks in and I needed to save that for when I had my breast removed!

828Pax · 26/02/2025 21:06

Thatsnotmynameee · 26/02/2025 19:04

Wow that's ridiculous. They don't believe someone could get ill 3 times in a year??!

It would also trigger it in my work
place. 3 occasions in 12 months triggers it for me

PeachBlossom1234 · 26/02/2025 21:05

At my work (charity) we don’t get paid for the first 3 days of sickness to stop people taking the piss. It’s amazing that most people can drag themselves out of bed when they’re not getting paid!

JenniferBooth · 26/02/2025 21:05

No wonder people go into work sick............which they then also get moaned at for

Mrsttcno1 · 26/02/2025 21:04

I’m baffled that you think 3 times in 10 months is rare OP.. my husband rarely has time off sick meaning 1 day in 3 years, I’m rarely off sick meaning no days since 2019ish. 3 times in 10 months is a LOT, it’s certainly not what I would describe as rare. That would trigger most sickness absences.

Quitelikeit · 26/02/2025 21:04

Gosh it’s hardly a bad record these things happen

and it’s definitely not nice being harassed when sick by work

pointythings · 26/02/2025 21:04

3 episodes in 12 months would trigger an informal sickness process where I am (NHS), unless there was a chronic relapsing condition on the record that could be discounted. It's a lot - I haven't had a sick day for over 8 years.

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