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To not of spoken to in laws for 2 years

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sopranoswasthebest · 26/02/2025 14:13

I did post on here previously.

So basically I had a massive argument with my MIL a few years ago when she was sending me nasty texts when I had a relative critically ill in hospital.

When I went to stay and help my family she got quite nasty and wasn't supportive at all and was sending me passive aggressive texts about me "abandoning" her son etc.

I had bit my tongue for years with her and FIL to be honest, I just exploded at her and I haven't spoken to her of FIL since.

They tried leaving £100 in a card that year at Xmas but I told DH to send it back.

Prior to this MIL would always interfere in both our relationship and general health.

From ordering me to get the Covid and Flu jab (I'm on my early 30s) to telling me "I needed to cook DH meals l" to asking "when are your visitors leaving", it was always something.

I have been very good to in-laws prior to this, helping them with chores, writing letters, gardening, dog sitting for weeks, doing their shopping etc and I never got any appreciation for it.

The picture that was painted to me by DH when we first got together was that they were these lonely people who were kind and nice people and the reason the oldest sibling didn't bother with them was because of his wife.

Was all a pack of lies as I found out for myself .

FIL has made racial slurs against my Polish BIL who is married to my sister on multiple occasions and uses the p and n word a lot.

He is a sarcastic horrible man, he made me cry when he accused me of being lazy in lockdown (whilst I was doing his shopping).
This was the only time DH stood up to him on my behalf.

Anyway so now they have both got health problems now and need help.

DH was asked me if I would be able to make peace and start over with them.

What really bothers me is how other people that have never bothered or helped them get treated better than me.

Like the ex wife of BIL who didn't talk them the whole time she was married to the eldest son got taken out for a £300 meal after not seeing her for years and I did so much and never even got a thank you.

It just really burns me how I got treated and I can't forgive or forget.

DH is making me feel like I am being petty and to at least talk to them but I don't want to.

AIBU?

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Biscuitsnotcookies · 01/03/2025 17:04

sopranoswasthebest · 01/03/2025 10:38

So last night I told my husband that I think it was best if we both moved on separately as all we are doing is arguing over his parents.

When I told him of all the help I had given to his parents and how that has been awful to me he reminded me

"It's not a competition of who has done what, they cooked you meals remember".
They didn't spent hours and hours of their time doing chores for me.

They cooked for everyone (including him and his siblings) at rare family dinners.

And when I said he just wanted an unpaid carer for his parents he told me "Complete none sense".

He would always make me feel guilty when I stepped back from helping his parents and would say to me "they realise you're not bothered about them" so he is lying there.

He told me he had gone to see his parents and they told him they "missed me" and understand we won't talk again.

Still no apology.
At this point I have given up trying to explain things to him.

I think I probably will be happier moving on as he clearly doesn't have my back or support me and makes me feel like I'm crazy.

Thank you to everyone for their advice x

Even in this moment when he stands to lose everything he is STILL completely unable to see your point of view. He is still welded to them. It must be sickening to watch him disregard your feelings, your experience of his family and even now he is not fighting for you. Or even willing to meet you half way… You deserve so much more than this, and I could not be with a man like this in a million years. A mummy’s boy still suckling at her nipples unable to adult in any capacity. I would be well and truly out.

AcrossthePond55 · 01/03/2025 16:58

@sopranoswasthebest

The fact that he didn't express any real regret at your decision but instead simply kept defending his parents and justifying his wanting you to do his job for him shows that he really doesn't value you or your marriage. Sounds as if he figures that if he can't get what he wants out of you, then you may as well 'be gone'.

You are right to separate. Move quickly but deliberately, especially wrt separating finances. And see a solicitor as soon as possible to find out what divorce may mean to you. It doesn't mean you're going 'do anything' right now, just that you are educating yourself as to what divorce may mean to you. Knowledge is power and forewarned is forearmed.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/03/2025 10:49

sopranoswasthebest · 01/03/2025 10:38

So last night I told my husband that I think it was best if we both moved on separately as all we are doing is arguing over his parents.

When I told him of all the help I had given to his parents and how that has been awful to me he reminded me

"It's not a competition of who has done what, they cooked you meals remember".
They didn't spent hours and hours of their time doing chores for me.

They cooked for everyone (including him and his siblings) at rare family dinners.

And when I said he just wanted an unpaid carer for his parents he told me "Complete none sense".

He would always make me feel guilty when I stepped back from helping his parents and would say to me "they realise you're not bothered about them" so he is lying there.

He told me he had gone to see his parents and they told him they "missed me" and understand we won't talk again.

Still no apology.
At this point I have given up trying to explain things to him.

I think I probably will be happier moving on as he clearly doesn't have my back or support me and makes me feel like I'm crazy.

Thank you to everyone for their advice x

He's definitely clutching at straws here, trying to find something nice that his parents have done for you. As though including you in a (very rare) family meal which they are cooking for everyone, not specifically for you, is the same as all the help you previously gave them when you were on speaking terms.

He is defending the indefensible and won't even consider your point of view so separation seems the only solution to stop the constant guilt tripping from him.

AnneLovesGilbert · 01/03/2025 10:49

Good for you. It sounds like it’s been coming for a while. Imagine how wonderful life will feel when you have your own place, miles away from the fucked yo dysfunctional lot of them.

Coralsunset · 01/03/2025 10:44

Good luck @sopranoswasthebest you can always return here or start a new thread if he is difficult over the split. 💐

sopranoswasthebest · 01/03/2025 10:38

So last night I told my husband that I think it was best if we both moved on separately as all we are doing is arguing over his parents.

When I told him of all the help I had given to his parents and how that has been awful to me he reminded me

"It's not a competition of who has done what, they cooked you meals remember".
They didn't spent hours and hours of their time doing chores for me.

They cooked for everyone (including him and his siblings) at rare family dinners.

And when I said he just wanted an unpaid carer for his parents he told me "Complete none sense".

He would always make me feel guilty when I stepped back from helping his parents and would say to me "they realise you're not bothered about them" so he is lying there.

He told me he had gone to see his parents and they told him they "missed me" and understand we won't talk again.

Still no apology.
At this point I have given up trying to explain things to him.

I think I probably will be happier moving on as he clearly doesn't have my back or support me and makes me feel like I'm crazy.

Thank you to everyone for their advice x

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ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 28/02/2025 19:49

DH has never helped my parents or family

This is always the case when women write about the help they give to their in-laws.

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 28/02/2025 19:47

they have both got health problems now and need help

I mean, still doing your DHs laundry, cutting his hair, booking all his appointments, what help do they actually need from you both? Or is it more manipulation?

Redshoeblueshoe · 28/02/2025 18:47

Bloody hell. Time to LTB

Zanatdy · 28/02/2025 18:36

Wow she does his washing still? He won’t change, and he just wants you to make up so he can push that inevitable (if he wants to keep his inheritance) caring responsibility to you. I’d leave.

LookItsMeAgain · 28/02/2025 18:25

sopranoswasthebest · 28/02/2025 17:43

Yes he is extremely close to his parents - he was living with them at 30 when I met him.

MIL still does his washing, books all of his appointments, they have a "chippy" night every Thursday, she still cuts his hair, everything revolves around his parents.

As we live 2 doors away from them, I did suggest moving, but to no avail.

I think moving on would be separating as I'm not really happy and we just always argue about his parents.

My DH is very close to his parents but his mother doesn't do any of this. He's also 50!
You need to both move and move on.

SuperTrooper14 · 28/02/2025 18:21

He only wants you to make up so you can skivvy for them and he can take credit for it. Honestly, it's an overused MN phrase but you definitely have a DH problem! Be firm: tell him that if you ever did consider reconciling with them, it would be on condition that you would not lift a finger to look after them. It just wouldn't happen. That is his job, as their son, and his siblings' job. He won't like it but tough.

Snoopdoggydog123 · 28/02/2025 18:19

sopranoswasthebest · 28/02/2025 17:43

Yes he is extremely close to his parents - he was living with them at 30 when I met him.

MIL still does his washing, books all of his appointments, they have a "chippy" night every Thursday, she still cuts his hair, everything revolves around his parents.

As we live 2 doors away from them, I did suggest moving, but to no avail.

I think moving on would be separating as I'm not really happy and we just always argue about his parents.

I'd be drier than Mars looking at that man

Fuck knows how you've managed to muster up the courage to let him have a go the 3 times it took for the kids.

Ellie56 · 28/02/2025 18:09

OMG 2 doors away! Shock

He's never really left home has he?

thepariscrimefiles · 28/02/2025 18:05

sopranoswasthebest · 28/02/2025 17:43

Yes he is extremely close to his parents - he was living with them at 30 when I met him.

MIL still does his washing, books all of his appointments, they have a "chippy" night every Thursday, she still cuts his hair, everything revolves around his parents.

As we live 2 doors away from them, I did suggest moving, but to no avail.

I think moving on would be separating as I'm not really happy and we just always argue about his parents.

He's still joined to his mum by the umbilical cord. It sounds deeply unattrative in a grown man who doesn't care that his parents insult his wife.

Separating sounds like the only way for you to get some distance from this awful family. Your DH won't protect you and he wants to expose you to their toxicity all over again by expecting to you help care for his parents.

Coralsunset · 28/02/2025 17:45

Yeah, two doors down is insanity.

Time to move on. 💐

sopranoswasthebest · 28/02/2025 17:43

Yes he is extremely close to his parents - he was living with them at 30 when I met him.

MIL still does his washing, books all of his appointments, they have a "chippy" night every Thursday, she still cuts his hair, everything revolves around his parents.

As we live 2 doors away from them, I did suggest moving, but to no avail.

I think moving on would be separating as I'm not really happy and we just always argue about his parents.

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AcrossthePond55 · 28/02/2025 14:39

@sopranoswasthebest

At this point I think moving on will be best as we just can't agree on this and go back and forth arguing over it.

What do you mean by 'moving on'? Are you thinking of separating or do you simply mean refusing to discuss the matter further? If the latter, will he actually respect your decision and drop it? He has a lot riding on your 'acquiescence', you know. Your continued (correct) refusal means he may just have to step up and actually act as a carer for his parents. Not to mention losing (an imaginary) part of 'his' inheritance that's supposedly coming to you.

Redfred00 · 28/02/2025 14:32

It's hard enough to provide care for someone you love. I wouldn't look after ungreahateful, hateful people.

Redfred00 · 28/02/2025 14:30

They aren't going to be nicer or less abusive when they are unwell. Your husband wants to you to tow the line so he can palm their care off onto you.

Onlyvisiting · 28/02/2025 14:21

Absolutely not. Your DH wants you to forgive and forget so you can be/help be their carer. Certainly I would support him as needed in him helping them with what they need, but I wouldn't be doing it myself and wouldn't be interacting with them directly.
Racism is a hard no for me, and they will only get worse as they get older and you will be expected to just take the abuse as they need care.

Dolambslikemintsauce · 28/02/2025 14:19

I would suggest- as we did before the actual nc- was we agreed mil's name wasn't mentioned in our home. Wasn't being all het up in my own space by that woman when she wasn't even there!!
Tell dh your marriage depends on his agreement.. And mean it.

Ellie56 · 28/02/2025 14:18

"he keeps trying to drag me there to "sort it out".

Sort what out? And whatever "it" is, why can't he sort it out?

I think you need to move on too. On and out of this so called marriage. Like PP have said, your DH is married to his mother, not you.

C8H10N4O2 · 28/02/2025 14:16

sopranoswasthebest · 28/02/2025 12:37

DH still doesn't see there wrong doing and just blames it on their age and frustration that the other siblings don't help them.

DH has never helped my parents or family.

Unfortunately we live a few doors away from them and DH is round there every morning before work to see them (which is fine as they are his parents) but he keeps trying to drag me there to "sort it out".

I do feel as if DH lies a lot and tries to manipulate me but I have stood firm for 2 years and have had no contact with them.

At this point I think moving on will be best as we just can't agree on this and go back and forth arguing over it.

DH wants you to provide unpaid labour to his parents so that he can inherit money.

Personally I would suggest his parents use the money to pay for their own services and labour and fuck off out of my life.

DH can choose between going home to polish the horde or staying with you.

HH4432 · 28/02/2025 14:15

I do feel as if DH lies a lot and tries to manipulate me but I have stood firm for 2 years and have had no contact with them.

yet you STILL call him "D" H? Please raise you bar, he is a low moralled man if this is the case