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VivienneBL · 25/02/2025 22:12

I’m 42 and a single mother to two children aged 15 and 11 . I have a lovely extended family but very little day-to-day help .
I’m definitely having perimenopause symptoms which are really hard like fatigue, unwanted facial hair, my actual hair has gone berserk . I can’t lose wait no matter what I do and I’m going through major bouts of insomnia. All of this is affecting my work - I run a small creative agency in London. I feel totally mashed all the time . The worst bit though is I feel like I’m losing my mind. I get paranoid, anxious and emotional, and my resilience to stress is really low.
I had a fairly rough childhood ( alcoholic mum) and my ex husband is very nasty - incredibly wealthy but offers zero help either financially or practically, and puts so much pressure on me and constantly causes issues with the kids . But aside from those two things I’ve always been totally happy, a coper and good at handling issues . Thesedays I feel like a shell of my former self . It’s just crept up on me and I’m so scared at how I’m changing .
The doctor has been useless and I really don’t know where to turn. Women friends are amazing and some are on HRT but I’m a little worried about that.
Has anyone been through the same or had experiences of the same? Am I going crazy or is this to be expected? What is the best way to get through this?

OP posts:
Willow12345 · 26/02/2025 07:43

CuriousRunner · 25/02/2025 22:32

Hrt. All day long. Definitely including testosterone based on what you've described.

This.
HRT, including testosterone.

See another GP. You will simply be replacing lost hormones with body-identical hormones.
It's a game-changer and has many health benefits, including cardiovascular, cognitive and may offer protection against dementia.

Lots of luck OP x

NetZeroZealot · 26/02/2025 07:43

hello261 · 26/02/2025 07:41

For those on hrt is it true it can only be taken for 5 years?

No. I’ve been on it for 10 years and not planning to stop until I retire.
GP says she knows women in their 70s on it.

JinglingSpringbells · 26/02/2025 07:43

Sunshinedayscomeon · 26/02/2025 07:39

Sertaline worked for me: helped the anxiety, negative emotions and made life rosy again.

Magnesium for sleep, yoga, cardio and strength as well as rethinking my diet. It felt good to put effort into my self after years off looking after every one else.

Having a laugh with friends going through the same.

GPs are being advised not to offer ADs for peri. It's not recommended by NICE for peri menopause or post menopause issues if it's a hormone-related issue.

hello261 · 26/02/2025 07:41

For those on hrt is it true it can only be taken for 5 years?

maddening · 26/02/2025 07:41

Under 46 the gp should be offering blood work to confirm menopause.

You can ask for HRT which should help also

NetZeroZealot · 26/02/2025 07:40

I’ve been on HRT for a decade, I wish I’d started it sooner.
It is simply replenishing your hormones which decline over time.
Nowadays when women live longer and are more likely to be working in demanding jobs menopause is more of an issue than it was for our parents generation.
And one that can be easily treated for most women.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 26/02/2025 07:39

ItShouldntHappenToMeYet · 26/02/2025 06:38

I know what she said.
I'm trying to point out that most PPs think hrt is some kind of miracle cure and that the OP should just get over herself re the worry because it is 'magic', whereas not all women can take it, and why immediately turn to drugs?

It pretty much is a miracle cure for some of us! If you haven’t experienced the chronic, debilitating effects of perimenopause or menopause then that’s great and I’m really pleased for you, but it works for the majority of women, and all the health scares associated with it a few years ago have been debunked. Women deserve to feel better.

Sunshinedayscomeon · 26/02/2025 07:39

Sertaline worked for me: helped the anxiety, negative emotions and made life rosy again.

Magnesium for sleep, yoga, cardio and strength as well as rethinking my diet. It felt good to put effort into my self after years off looking after every one else.

Having a laugh with friends going through the same.

SunshinePleaseReturn · 26/02/2025 07:37

Magnesium to sleep and saffron extract has really helped with my anxiety.
Weights.
Low carb.
Loads of water.
Avoid alcohol.

HRT can help but for me it has plusses and minuses.

MILLYmo0se · 26/02/2025 07:36

treesocks23 · 25/02/2025 23:26

I'm with you here and have to say I'm totally confused. I'm just coming up to 42 and think perimenopause may have started. In the last 12-15 months my periods have gone from super regular every 28 days to anything from 23-35 ish so still regular ish but different for me. Teamed with really dry skin that I've never had, insomnia (again, never had this) - it's actually more waking at anything from 2.30-4am, some facial hair issues (slight and I'm fair luckily) and so much fatigue. Never ever napped in my life and now I feel almost a real deep need to sleep in the day. I'm so uneducated re menopause / peri though. I didn't think you were prescribed HRT until menopause was certain? Gosh I really need to get clued up.

Progesterone typically starts dropping around age 35, menopause is diagnosed as being 1 year without periods if age over 50 so HRT use usually starts before menopause actually happens.

NetZeroZealot · 26/02/2025 07:33

The risks of HRT have been overstated in the past leading to misplaced concern. There was a trial about a decade ago which has since been debunked.
For many conditions - not just menopause- HRT can extend your life.
Even if you have cancer history in the immediate family there are forms you can take.
Pay to see a private specialist OP who can talk you through all the risks and the very many benefits.
If you are drinking wine regularly ( not excessively) you are almost certainly increasing your risks more than you would on HRT.

fromthevault · 26/02/2025 07:33

HRT isn't 'drugs', good grief. Needless scaremongering.

OP, please at least look into HRT, unless you have a clear medical contraindication. It really can be a game changer.

JinglingSpringbells · 26/02/2025 07:32

@VivienneBL You know there is a menopause forum on MN?
It's under Health - then Menopause is listed in that category.

Lots of help there, but you've had good advice here so far.

If your GP isn't helpful you can refer yourself to a menopause specialist - you've said your husband is very wealthy so I'm assuming you could afford this?

You'd be looking for a consultant gynaecologist or a private GP / women's clinic with menopause training- there are loads around now although some are better than others. Most also do video consultations.

Spirallingdownwards · 26/02/2025 07:31

RedGolden · 26/02/2025 07:26

Of course HRT can be great but there are some things to worry about. For me it’s crippling migraines, I’d do anything to avoid a full-blown attack as they are simply hideous… and HRT can definitely trigger these. There are other possible long-term concerns too.

People are right to be cautious before taking treatment or even to try it. That’s not to say don’t try it but it’s wrong to be dismissive of someone’s concerns!

There are different types of HRT so have a proper discussion about existing issues and they find the right one for you. My doctor specifically got out a big book to find one that fitted around other issues I had and then we tried a dose but I was wanted it may need adjusting-fortunately it didn't.

user1471538283 · 26/02/2025 07:31

I was told by my GP friend that bloods aren't really any good because all they will show is your estrogen is low and judging by your description they are. You need a Dr that gets it.

My first Dr didn't and thought I was depressed. I wasn't. I had a very low mood and couldn't hold a thought in my head. I left in tears. My next Dr and the one I'm with now gets it.

Sinkintotheswamp · 26/02/2025 07:29

I've dragged myself through the whole thing. I did try HRT last year but even a tiny amount made my breasts incredibly tender and I was weepy so I stopped and I've not had time to look at a different type.

user1471538283 · 26/02/2025 07:28

You sound like you need HRT. It saved me.

I take a Dr prescribed gel and capsules and within 2 weeks I was my normal self. I had some trial and error before I started on this type.

Once you get your estrogen under control things may seem better.

Spirallingdownwards · 26/02/2025 07:28

AInightingale · 25/02/2025 23:09

Your GP probably won't consider you for HRT unless they've ruled out other causes, so just tell them you're feeling dreadful and permanently wiped and ask for bloods. If everything else is fine then you can ask to try HRT.

If your HP is like this then change GPs to one that isn't this old fashioned and out of touch.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 26/02/2025 07:27

VivienneBL · 25/02/2025 22:12

I’m 42 and a single mother to two children aged 15 and 11 . I have a lovely extended family but very little day-to-day help .
I’m definitely having perimenopause symptoms which are really hard like fatigue, unwanted facial hair, my actual hair has gone berserk . I can’t lose wait no matter what I do and I’m going through major bouts of insomnia. All of this is affecting my work - I run a small creative agency in London. I feel totally mashed all the time . The worst bit though is I feel like I’m losing my mind. I get paranoid, anxious and emotional, and my resilience to stress is really low.
I had a fairly rough childhood ( alcoholic mum) and my ex husband is very nasty - incredibly wealthy but offers zero help either financially or practically, and puts so much pressure on me and constantly causes issues with the kids . But aside from those two things I’ve always been totally happy, a coper and good at handling issues . Thesedays I feel like a shell of my former self . It’s just crept up on me and I’m so scared at how I’m changing .
The doctor has been useless and I really don’t know where to turn. Women friends are amazing and some are on HRT but I’m a little worried about that.
Has anyone been through the same or had experiences of the same? Am I going crazy or is this to be expected? What is the best way to get through this?

HRT is almost certainly the answer, it really is life changing. It has so many benefits in general health terms but it certainly restored my sanity!

RedGolden · 26/02/2025 07:26

Wantitalltogoaway · 25/02/2025 23:19

some are on HRT but I’m a little worried about that.

Why on Earth are you worried about it?

There are so many threads like these where the woman is on her knees yet won’t even try HRT - the gold standard treatment for symptoms of perimenopause.

There are no prizes for being miserable you know.

Of course HRT can be great but there are some things to worry about. For me it’s crippling migraines, I’d do anything to avoid a full-blown attack as they are simply hideous… and HRT can definitely trigger these. There are other possible long-term concerns too.

People are right to be cautious before taking treatment or even to try it. That’s not to say don’t try it but it’s wrong to be dismissive of someone’s concerns!

Lilactimes · 26/02/2025 07:26

VivienneBL · 25/02/2025 22:12

I’m 42 and a single mother to two children aged 15 and 11 . I have a lovely extended family but very little day-to-day help .
I’m definitely having perimenopause symptoms which are really hard like fatigue, unwanted facial hair, my actual hair has gone berserk . I can’t lose wait no matter what I do and I’m going through major bouts of insomnia. All of this is affecting my work - I run a small creative agency in London. I feel totally mashed all the time . The worst bit though is I feel like I’m losing my mind. I get paranoid, anxious and emotional, and my resilience to stress is really low.
I had a fairly rough childhood ( alcoholic mum) and my ex husband is very nasty - incredibly wealthy but offers zero help either financially or practically, and puts so much pressure on me and constantly causes issues with the kids . But aside from those two things I’ve always been totally happy, a coper and good at handling issues . Thesedays I feel like a shell of my former self . It’s just crept up on me and I’m so scared at how I’m changing .
The doctor has been useless and I really don’t know where to turn. Women friends are amazing and some are on HRT but I’m a little worried about that.
Has anyone been through the same or had experiences of the same? Am I going crazy or is this to be expected? What is the best way to get through this?

Hello! I felt like this in my forties - I had early menopause (46)… had no idea why I could no longer cope. I had quite a big job then and am single mum.. I was genuinely scared about my ability to work.
I went on HRT patches and they changed me for the better. I also went to gym and made myself work out. Did some meditation every morning and took the over 50 vitamins (even tho I was younger).
I literally went back to my old self… It can be done - pls don’t worry too much tho I genuinely appreciate how awful it is - it can be fixed ❤️
Do your research, discuss with GP or see a gyno and have the blood tests done and advice on type of HRT etc. I went on 3 lots before I found the patches and felt calm and normal again x

Tumbleweed101 · 26/02/2025 07:24

I’ve been feeling like this. I went on HRT which helped with the sleeping side and bringing my periods back to a 28 day cycle. They’d got to a 23/24 day cycle. Then they discovered I had high blood pressure so had to come off HRT.

I had bloods done and found I had low ferritin so given iron tablets and blood pressure meds. Have felt myself again since taking them and enjoying going to work again. I’d started to hate it and wanted to retire prior to taking iron tablets. I’ve been taking iron and vit D since December. I’m having another blood test next week do hopefully things will have improved.

Glorybox2025 · 26/02/2025 07:16

HRT. Why are you worried about it?

Flamingoknees · 26/02/2025 07:15

StrawberryFizzy · 25/02/2025 22:52

Also have B12 levels checked.

Absolutely this. My mother and aunts, had pernicious anaemia and needed B12 injections. I decided to start a supplement. It sat on rop of my wardrobe until I was cleaning up there and saw it would expire if left any longer. It is not an exaggeration to say it changed my life. Even better, when I switched to a high dose sublngual drop,my energy levels soared. I daren't stop it, as it made so much difference. It's worth a try - but I suppose I should say, check with your GP, if olanning to take longterm. A long course of low dose citalopram, has also changed my life. Massively.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 26/02/2025 07:14

HRT worked for me along with supplements. Took me ages to get the GP to agree to give me it, I wish I'd gone private and got it that way so GP would have had to fall in line.