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CMsCriminals · 25/02/2025 17:50

This department s an absolute disgrace
I have overpayment of £6.515.32 after they hounded me for money for a child that was not mine and refuses o return the money to me.

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Faaa · 26/02/2025 21:11

NotTheDebtDoctorWithTheHungryScalpel · 26/02/2025 20:08

No, it's not equally as dreadful for paying parents.

They get the option of quitting their job, going part time, moving in with someone who has kids, putting more into their pension, getting a lower paid job, getting a court order stating 50/50, going self employed and not declaring their full wages.....

The receiving parent just has to suck it up.

It's 12% of their wages for one child, and 19% for 3+ children (and several ways to get out of paying). Just because you say your partner had a bad experience it doesn't mean it's anything like 'equally' as bad.

Yes, there are shit aspects for the receiving parent, which I’ve experienced, as I’ve said.

HOWEVER

The paying parent just has to ‘suck up’ whatever the receiving parent chooses to tell the CMS.

It’s not just my partner, it’s thousands of cases where the ‘receiving parent’ hasn’t been honest and the ‘paying parent’ does not have an equal right of reply. There have been several cases which have ended in suicide. The CMS actually incentivises less overnight stays, as the fewer overnight stays, the more money the ‘receiving parent’ can claim (that is, if they’ve been honest in the first place).

Faaa · 26/02/2025 21:06

Dramatic · 26/02/2025 20:33

Well anecdotally they believed my ex over me when he tried to say he had our daughter 50/50 when he hadn't even seen her for 6 months.

That isn’t how the CMS works. If you claimed the child benefit then they would have automatically believed you, unless there was a 50/50 court order in place.

If, without the conditions I’ve stated above, they just believed your ex then they were in breach of their own policies, which state that they consider the resident parent to be whoever claims the child benefit.

Dramatic · 26/02/2025 20:33

Faaa · 26/02/2025 18:01

It is do with the media, Mumsnet is a part of the media and the rhetoric that is shared here, mostly by women given it is a female driven site.

The CMS is dreadful for receiving parents (most of whom are women). Men are able to go self-employed, not declare income, duck and dive. I’ve experienced this first hand.

It is equally as dreadful for paying parents (most of whom are men). My partner’s ex opened a fraudulent case against him, claiming he never had his children overnight, even though it was 50/50. This lead to demands for money in the thousands of pounds, which took months for my partner to sort out. The CMS’ attitude is to believe the woman (receiving parent) no matter what. Good luck proving otherwise if you have a vindictive, spiteful ex. This isn’t a rare occurrence either, and has tragically lead to men committing suicide.

It’s not a one-sided issue.

Well anecdotally they believed my ex over me when he tried to say he had our daughter 50/50 when he hadn't even seen her for 6 months.

NotTheDebtDoctorWithTheHungryScalpel · 26/02/2025 20:08

Faaa · 26/02/2025 18:01

It is do with the media, Mumsnet is a part of the media and the rhetoric that is shared here, mostly by women given it is a female driven site.

The CMS is dreadful for receiving parents (most of whom are women). Men are able to go self-employed, not declare income, duck and dive. I’ve experienced this first hand.

It is equally as dreadful for paying parents (most of whom are men). My partner’s ex opened a fraudulent case against him, claiming he never had his children overnight, even though it was 50/50. This lead to demands for money in the thousands of pounds, which took months for my partner to sort out. The CMS’ attitude is to believe the woman (receiving parent) no matter what. Good luck proving otherwise if you have a vindictive, spiteful ex. This isn’t a rare occurrence either, and has tragically lead to men committing suicide.

It’s not a one-sided issue.

No, it's not equally as dreadful for paying parents.

They get the option of quitting their job, going part time, moving in with someone who has kids, putting more into their pension, getting a lower paid job, getting a court order stating 50/50, going self employed and not declaring their full wages.....

The receiving parent just has to suck it up.

It's 12% of their wages for one child, and 19% for 3+ children (and several ways to get out of paying). Just because you say your partner had a bad experience it doesn't mean it's anything like 'equally' as bad.

Faaa · 26/02/2025 18:01

CleanShirt · 26/02/2025 10:45

All I see on MN are first had accounts of what women have been through. It's nothing to do with the "media".

It is do with the media, Mumsnet is a part of the media and the rhetoric that is shared here, mostly by women given it is a female driven site.

The CMS is dreadful for receiving parents (most of whom are women). Men are able to go self-employed, not declare income, duck and dive. I’ve experienced this first hand.

It is equally as dreadful for paying parents (most of whom are men). My partner’s ex opened a fraudulent case against him, claiming he never had his children overnight, even though it was 50/50. This lead to demands for money in the thousands of pounds, which took months for my partner to sort out. The CMS’ attitude is to believe the woman (receiving parent) no matter what. Good luck proving otherwise if you have a vindictive, spiteful ex. This isn’t a rare occurrence either, and has tragically lead to men committing suicide.

It’s not a one-sided issue.

CleanShirt · 26/02/2025 10:45

Faaa · 26/02/2025 09:59

I have first hand experience of what a shit show the CMS is for both the receiving and paying parents.

Unfortunately very few on Mumsnet will give you a fair hearing because the media etc has done such a good job at painting every father as a deadbeat who doesn’t want to contribute to his children.

All I see on MN are first had accounts of what women have been through. It's nothing to do with the "media".

Faaa · 26/02/2025 09:59

I have first hand experience of what a shit show the CMS is for both the receiving and paying parents.

Unfortunately very few on Mumsnet will give you a fair hearing because the media etc has done such a good job at painting every father as a deadbeat who doesn’t want to contribute to his children.

ncforschoolhelp · 26/02/2025 09:41

Sorrows. Prayers.

CMsCriminals · 26/02/2025 09:23

why

They took the money and passed it on

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NikKai · 25/02/2025 18:13

I just went through child maintenance to get my sons so called father to pay for his son he has never met. They have had to force it out of his wages. They told me if he tries to wriggle out of it by denying paternity then he would have to pay for the paternity test and all would be open and honest and no doubt (for him, i know my baby is his)

So, why didnt your tight arse pay out for this much smaller cost in the first place before going on to pay as you thought you should have then moan about it after?

scorpiogirly · 25/02/2025 18:08

How do you know the child isn't yours?

Katemax82 · 25/02/2025 18:00

FjordPrefect · 25/02/2025 17:58

I'm assuming they don't have the money, you'll need to take the mother to court.

Good luck with that

FjordPrefect · 25/02/2025 17:58

I'm assuming they don't have the money, you'll need to take the mother to court.

ThriveIn2025 · 25/02/2025 17:56

Cool story bro.

NotTheDebtDoctorWithTheHungryScalpel · 25/02/2025 17:56

Thoughts and prayers ❤️

CleanShirt · 25/02/2025 17:54

ChonkyRabbit · 25/02/2025 17:53

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ChonkyRabbit · 25/02/2025 17:53

Sir this is a Wendy's