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To not want the funeral filmed

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Uniquely187 · 25/02/2025 07:03

Asking on behalf of DH.

Mil has sadly died. A family member wants to film the funeral for those who can't attend to watch. DH doesn't want this. Feels its a private event and not for viewing entertainment.

Sil wants it filmed as she feels it's important for those who can't attend to feel part of the day.

Do DHs feelings trump sil?

OP posts:
VickyEadieofThigh · 25/02/2025 08:51

FloppySarnie · 25/02/2025 07:12

Do you mean stream live? It’s very usual these days and if you view a funeral as a way for people to offer their respects, this is a chance for everyone to do this - even if they can’t be there in person. I wouldn’t deny people this if they can’t attend.

Indeed. I've attended a funeral recently that was live-linked for those who couldn't attend (which included a disabled family member) and also watched a live stream of my SiL's funeral, held in America. I can't see a problem with it.

I wonder if the OP's DH thinks it will be a recording, rather than a live link and this is what's putting him off?

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 25/02/2025 08:50

I am not sure that funerals are seen as private by religious people. They're meant to be public in order that people acknowledge the passing of a member of the community, aren't they? Your DH is grieving so all his decisions come from a son's desire to protect his mum, which is lovely.

My dad's funeral is on youtube because many relatives live abroad and didn't want to miss it, but couldn't afford to come. I doubt anyone but close family will ever watch the video. Why would they? So even if it is filmed it remains private.

Neverenoughbooksorcats · 25/02/2025 08:50

Turn the focus back to MIL. Did she have a good relationship with those who can't be there and who would view the recording? If she did and they can't be there but want to be involved I think it's fine. If it's for people that MIL didn't have any time for, that would change my view.

If a funeral is a way to celebrate the life of those who have passed, thinking about what they would have wanted must be paramount.

Your DH and Sil - it's not about the recording, it's the big feelings focused on something trivial.

Difficultdecisionsonontuesday · 25/02/2025 08:46

I had this eight weeks ago and was adamant I didn’t want it streamed but my sister due to disability and distance could not attend and so with I arranged a live view of the funeral for her that was streamed by the crematorium.

it was £55, it was only for that moment in time, I got sent a login and password which I sent to her the week before. She told me it looked over mine and the kids heads towards the coffin and the celebrant.

I would discuss it with the funeral directors, at least you are in control of the situation.

The password then expires, but I must warn you and it’s worth checking with the funeral directors I was a bit shocked to receive another email a couple of days later with and updated password, so I do think I could have then watched a recording. I haven’t spoken to the funeral directors about this and I’ve not used it to know if it works but I expect it will as someone told me they record all the funerals for some reason, not sure why and I don’t know if this is true.

EleanorReally · 25/02/2025 08:45

you need a code to watch a stream
it is not a public option

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 25/02/2025 08:42

OP, please could you clarify if you mean “filmed” as in live streamed by the funeral place, or a camcorder/recorder set up?

if live streamed I think it’s very common these days and no issue. It’s usually set up inconspicuously from a distance and not intrusive. And it’s not recorded as such, it’s only accessible online. If someone is bringing along a camcorder I would feel differently.

BruceAndNosh · 25/02/2025 08:41

I watched the live stream funeral of my closest Friends husband during covid. (Friend had died 3 years earlier)
Sound quality was good so able to hear eulogy clearly. Picture quality iffy, fixed camera from high up so just saw back of attendees heads. Couldn't recognise their son.
I attended another post covid streamed funeral which was well attended but streamed mainly for family in far East (daughter too pregnant to fly). The celebrant looked up (I assume at the camera) when she was talking about the deceased's family to really include them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/02/2025 08:41

Each to their own, but for me this would be totally unacceptable. I get the issue about people who can't be there, but am simply not fond of the idea that every last thing has to be filmed, and especially at such a difficult occasion

As PPs have said, maybe you could ask if the venue has a live streaming service, which would at least be better than the risk of getting some videographer who was less than discreet - like the Zeffirelli wannabee who turned up and ponced around a recent one I attended

The best of luck with it anyway; emotions will understandably be running high and I don't imagine this will be easy

Gloriia · 25/02/2025 08:39

Silvertulips · 25/02/2025 07:07

If they can’t make it they can pay their respects quietly at home, no need to film the service. Often we have different relationships with people and the service isn’t personal or even sounds like the person you knew.

If they can’t make it, they can’t make it.

This. I loathe these live link funerals complete with passwords etc. Omg must everything be available for viewing these days.

If you can make it, lovely. If you can't then visit the grave or wherever at a later date. I think it is really intrusive to those attending knowing there are people watching their every move.

Porcuporpoise · 25/02/2025 08:39

Soontobe60 · 25/02/2025 07:39

It means a lot to the deceased’s child NOT to have his DMs funeral filmed. The people who can’t attend don’t call the shots, if they wanted so badly to watch, they’d make the effort.
I’m with the DH on this one - filming a funeral where there are people grieving is a gross invasion of privacy.

One of the deceased children, the other would like it filmed/live cast. And the mourners are not typically included, just the people speaking and the casket.

Daffodiltimeishere · 25/02/2025 08:38

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 25/02/2025 08:26

The film will show the service, not the mourners. We had this done for overseas relatives, it was very tasteful and a good way to include the overseas 'oldies' who couldn't attend.

I'm sorry but I didn't think funerals were about " including" people.

They are supposed to be about the person who has just died.About reflecting on the life of the deceased. You don't need a film of the funeral to do that.

It just seems to be feeding into the obsession these days that literally EVERYTHING needs to be photographed/ filmed/ posted on the internet/ shared with the world. For a lot of people everything needs to be a performance now.

harriettenightingale · 25/02/2025 08:34

When my Nan passed away, a family member decided to record everything on his old camcorder like it was a wedding or something. Literally us getting into the cars and everything. That was weird.

From what I've seen online that type of thing seems to be a growing trend. But I'd agree most people just have the live stream or a video of the speakers with the coffin in the background. I have been at two funerals, one a close family member, where that was the case. It was completely discreet.

Completelyjo · 25/02/2025 08:33

It depends on what you mean, is there someone specific who is missing it?

I hardly think anyone would be watching it “for entertainment” so I don’t really think that’s a fair argument.

PenneyFouryourthoughts · 25/02/2025 08:33

My aunt by marriage passed away last year. Her mum lives in Hong Kong & she has brothers and sisters all over the world. So like pp, the funeral was streamed, so they could watch. I'm not comfortable with filming a funeral though. It's not the same context as a christening or a wedding. It seems inappropriate to keep something like that.

Your DH and SiL have to sort out their differences between themselves. They have equal say over the funeral arrangements.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 25/02/2025 08:31

LillyPJ · 25/02/2025 07:25

If there's a link to watch it live, then it's being filmed!

There's a big difference between making a film of it and streaming it live. When my mother died, numbers were still restricted so we opted for the crematorium to stream it. The link does not remain forever (I think it was 2 days) therefore no film of it exists now. So no film was made.

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 25/02/2025 08:26

Daffodiltimeishere · 25/02/2025 07:12

I agree with your DH.

There will be people attending the funeral who will be very visibly emotional and very probably crying. For that reason alone it's not appropriate to film them.

Grief shouldn't be a public spectacle for other's entertainment.

It's a shame if people can't attend who want to but they can still show their love and respect for your MiL by thinking of her and reflecting on her life and what she has meant to them.

The film will show the service, not the mourners. We had this done for overseas relatives, it was very tasteful and a good way to include the overseas 'oldies' who couldn't attend.

Fraaances · 25/02/2025 08:25

Let them know that MIL thought it was crass to film funerals and would have been horrified at the thought.

Hazylazydays · 25/02/2025 08:23

I would ask the funeral director for a live link, this will be available for about a month then it’s removed. I think it would be very sad not to have a live link for those who can’t attend. I wasn’t able to attend my brothers funeral but I was so grateful that I could in a sense be there and grieve with my extended family. There’s no way it was classed as viewing entertainment and I don’t know how anyone can say that about a funeral, it’s a very sad time that those who loved the deceased person and want to share in that final goodbye.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 25/02/2025 08:20

PermanentTemporary · 25/02/2025 07:08

It isn't usual to film a funeral. People don't take pictures as a rule (a friend took one picture at dh's wake due to special circumstances and apologised to me afterwards though I was fine about it).

Is there going to be online attendance available for those who can't be there? That would be a reasonable compromise imo. You could also have the eulogy printed into the order of service, or emailed to people afterwards if they want. I would say your dh should stand his ground.

Tbh has any of the people who Cs t be there even asked for this?? I cany imagine sitting down to watch a funeral I wasn't at, at another time. I do keep orders of service though.

Very sorry for your loss ❤️
She took a picture at his wake? Did she take a picture of his coffin? You're a much better woman than me I'd have put her out of the house if so

Vallmo47 · 25/02/2025 08:20

I live abroad - work here, have children in school here. There have been occasions I’ve been unable to attend family members funerals, it absolutely broke my heart. I’ve been incredibly thankful when a live stream of funeral has been set up - I’ve been able to take the day off work to take part remotely and it’s given me that closure I very much needed. I’ve always respected the views of people back home but I truly feel that as long as the congregation isn’t filmed it’s okay. It truly would have broke my heart recently when my beloved aunt passed to be told I couldn’t pay my respects from afar. I couldn’t take the kids out of school and my passport had expired, which made me feel like the worst person alive. To then also miss the funeral would have torn me to shreds.

I have full respect and feel your DH but please, please explain how it can be done very tastefully and how much it could mean to those not present.
I understand not wanting it recorded on like a mobile device that’s stored forever and could end up on social media though.

Hwi · 25/02/2025 08:15

People who don't come to pay last respects, don't get to be part of it. I understand they can have valid reasons for not being able to attend, but not being able to attend is just that - not being able to be part of it.

daisypetula · 25/02/2025 08:12

My mother's funeral was filmed as the building had no live streaming facilities. We could just see the celebrant, the casket and the attendees seated, then the people who got up to deliver eulogies.

Simplelobsterhat · 25/02/2025 08:08

SylviasShoes · 25/02/2025 08:03

I don't know why she said 'another family member rather than 'my husband's sister'.

If they are brother and sister, and there are no more brothers or sisters who can't be there, I think she should do what her brother wants.

The other people who can't be there are not as important as the immediate family and their wishes.

It's not right that she should put the wishes of distant family or friends above her own brother's wishes.

Edited

She clearly says it's SIL who wants it filmed?

Admittedly she doesn't specify who the people who can't make it who SIL wants it filmed for are, and I think that could make a difference. Eg if it's a sibling or grandchild of the deceased, and it's a genuine reason they can't attend, then I think they should do everything they can to accommodate them. Less important if it's just a vague idea that maybe some friends might not be able to get there.

MinnieCoops · 25/02/2025 08:06

Why would his opinion trump his sister's?

stayathomer · 25/02/2025 08:06

In Ireland and they stream most funerals now so people can see who can’t come