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I pay all the bills, husband pays nothing

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DevonSunSeaSand · 24/02/2025 23:21

I earn more than my husband but pay for every household bill, food, and holidays. Whilst I understand that it's unusual for this to be the case (the woman earning more), I'm still irritated that he doesn't pay towards joint costs.

He used to contribute to household expenses but never half, and since last year he's paying nothing. His money is all for himself and child maintenance but he still tells me he's broke every month despite earning more than the UK average.

We had a constructive chat a few weeks back about him paying off debt, setting up joint savings and having all our money in one account once he had cleared the loans etc, which he was agreeable to at the time. And then within a few days of the conversation, a new mobile phone costing over £1k arrives. The disappointment.

I'm frankly a bit fed up with it all but feel quite helpless and tired of butting my head on a brick wall.

AIBU for feeling unjust about the finances?

OP posts:
Namechanged4obviousreasons · 25/02/2025 16:05

You’re being taken for a mug. He doesn’t give a toss about you from the way he’s treated you and things he has said. Please do not pool finances with a bloke who cannot manage his own money. Who takes equity from a house sale and has to pay off debts (red flag) and then buys a car with it? A car should wait until he can actually afford it. Same with the £1000 phone.

He will bleed you dry if you let him - both financially and emotionally. Let him sort his own kids out too. No more supporting him when he’s taking the piss with you.

JHound · 25/02/2025 16:01

I just read all your posts. I would leave.

JHound · 25/02/2025 15:59

I assume child maintenance for children from a previous relationship?

Do you have kids together?

DevonSunSeaSand · 25/02/2025 15:43

I certainly went into this full of boundaries, and I took no crap whatsoever at the time which men did not like. This one seemed to accept me for me but gradually that is not the case as affection is withheld if I do something "wrong". That's not a quote from him but I do get into trouble for voicing thoughts and discussing things.

I have occasional outbursts of "I need better"and explaining what I need. Those conversations never end with me feeling better as he defends himself, withdraws and stonewalls.

It has also been said that why should he contribute just to make me better off and have savings when his name isn't on the mortgage. Cue implosion. He also doesn't remember saying these things when I question it later in a calm manner.

I've been by his side through two court battles with his ex over the child. Both incidents are because I exist in the childs life which his ex dislikes (and tells the child), the latest one involved me controlling my husband, which I was cleared of after investigation. Those incidents have made me feel awful which is likely why I'm less boundary driven and people pleasing again.

I do wish there was a way out of it that meant a happy ending as a couple. Been watching too many rom coms I feel!

OP posts:
LionME · 25/02/2025 13:34

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 25/02/2025 10:15

No shit Sherlock. That's because it IS his debt. He is contributing 0.
He bought a car for him.
No team here.

Is it? When divorcing (well a probably longer marriage, I get that) the debt would in his name so fur him to repay BUT would be taken into account in the division of assets.
aka there is no his/her debt in a marriage.

LaPam · 25/02/2025 12:03

dontcryformeargentina · 25/02/2025 03:22

Men show their love by providing support and prioritising their partner's needs. Even if they are poor, they wouldn't withhold from you when they love you. You are being crudely used here. Jump the ship asap.

I never thought that I would agree with this being a very independent (financially and otherwise) woman who was raised as a feminist… but, it is true.

If your man has turned into a free loader, this is the time to start splitting costs and above all, not the one to merge finances. So cancel that shared account ASAP, you have just open the door to further freeloading. Keep an eye on your relationship too, has he started behaving as if you are his mum? If so, back off from supporting him pronto, before the relationship dies for either of you.

user1471465748 · 25/02/2025 11:06

Speak to a solicitor to see what would likely happen if you divorce. In the meantime, start saving and reduce your spending. Please tell me you're not doing his laundry. Stop right now if you are. Reduce the food shop and keep treats hidden. Cook for yourself only and when he asks say you can't afford to feed him too. Reduce heating etc. Make it less cosy for him. Go out with your friends.

SylviasShoes · 25/02/2025 10:24

Depending how long he was married and what the settlement there was, he's not walked away with very much, has he?

Only enough equity to clear some debt (here we go again!) and put down a deposit on a car . So how much equity did he come out with after the sale of the marital home?

At least that's what he's told you- how would you really know?

Was money an issue in his marriage? I bet it was.

He's also been out of work for some months since you married 2 years ago.

He sounds unreliable and useless with money as well as selfish.

Unless there's more to this which redeems him in some way.

Mirabai · 25/02/2025 10:19

DevonSunSeaSand · 25/02/2025 08:48

Some of the equity went to his debt, the rest as a deposit for a new car which he pays the loan for. I don't use it as I have my own car (albeit breaking down regularly).

My equity has probably been accumulated 50% pre marriage, 50% after. Married 2 years.

Whilst I do feel quite doomed it's the end (as there are other problems too), I really wish it wasn't. It hurts to the core thinking of ending it and I don't have much of a support system to wallow in self pity for however long it takes to get over it. I had hoped the second time I'd get it right. Feelings suck 😂

Presumably you can’t afford to give him half your assets so I’d try to get him under control before ending it.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 25/02/2025 10:15

LionME · 25/02/2025 10:03

Fwiw your current arrangement and the way you’re talking about the situation makes me feel you’re not seeing the marriage as a team but still as very separate entities (at least financially). Think your equity/his equity, his debt, his car, his loan etc….

Im wondering if deep down this isn’t the case for other areas. You’re together, living together but aren’t a team - aka everyone pulls together forvtye benefit of the couple rather than for their own personal benefit iyswim.
The fact you feel things aren’t rozy after only 2 years doesn’t help.

No shit Sherlock. That's because it IS his debt. He is contributing 0.
He bought a car for him.
No team here.

LionME · 25/02/2025 10:03

Fwiw your current arrangement and the way you’re talking about the situation makes me feel you’re not seeing the marriage as a team but still as very separate entities (at least financially). Think your equity/his equity, his debt, his car, his loan etc….

Im wondering if deep down this isn’t the case for other areas. You’re together, living together but aren’t a team - aka everyone pulls together forvtye benefit of the couple rather than for their own personal benefit iyswim.
The fact you feel things aren’t rozy after only 2 years doesn’t help.

Cashcow1 · 25/02/2025 10:01

Similar to OP, I pick up all household expenses and was flabbergasted to be told that the OH had accrued a credit card debt of more than their gross annual salary. For some reason, it wasn't worth mentioning when it was only 97% of their salary.
Financial compatibility is a thing.

LionME · 25/02/2025 09:58

I think it’s pretty normal that you’re not paying 50/50 if you’re earning twice as much as him.
Then you need to decide between you how you deal with finances. Each of you has the same amount of spending money, you pay in proportion of your wages etc….
Im questioning why he has debts - from before or build up since you moved together?

Snowfalling · 25/02/2025 09:54

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 25/02/2025 08:51

Trouble is OP, you don't have long to think about it if you want to keep most of the stuff you had before you married him.

This, basically. As hard as it is, time is of the essence here.

MumWifeOther · 25/02/2025 09:53

I couldn’t do this and I couldn’t be with a man that was okay doing this.

Does he do more than you at home? Childcare etc?

Ophy83 · 25/02/2025 09:49

I earn less than dh, although am not a low earner. He pays more than me into the household expenses but I still pay half the mortgage, plus kids clothes, school dinners and trips, some holidays, insurance, food etc. If you are both earning both should contribute.

ScarlettSunset · 25/02/2025 09:47

DeepFatFried · 25/02/2025 08:58

It’s all very well people yelling ‘divorce’ but him waltzing off with half your hard earned house will just add insult to injury.

I would seek legal advice on how to protect your assets asap, and how you would stand in a divorce at this stage, what constitutes a short marriage, what he would be awarded etc.

But meanwhile to forfend divorce, if you want to have a go at saving your marriage, I would say set up a joining account which is for household bills and joint costs, groceries etc. leave off mortgage until you have spoken with a lawyer, don’t leave evidence if him paying the mortgage. You each agree to put half this amount plus a contingency in on payday by standing order. I would say half not pro rata because this is for bills and groceries and he is essentially living rent free if you cover your mortgage.

If he won’t agree to this you could try couple counselling and talk about how you feel so disrespected and taken for granted.

But he is really taking advantage, and I would start with the lawyer, asap. Knowledge is power.

I absolutely would NOT set up a joint account with someone who contributes nothing. If I had done that with my exh he would have made all the right noises about playing his part, maybe even do it for one month, but then just stop, and likely clear out everything I'd have put in there too.
If someone has already shown you they won't pay their way, never get MORE financially entangled with them, even inside a marriage...

Cattreesea · 25/02/2025 09:45

You have no children together and he sounds like one of these 'cock-lodgers'.

Make it clear he needs to pay his part of the household expenses and consider whether you want to stay in this relationship...

Personally I would get rid of that freeloader and I would get legal advice on what this would mean for my assets/financially.

TwistedWonder · 25/02/2025 09:44

Agree with those saying seek legal advice as it’s a very short marriage and he’s contributed very little.

Do it asap - don’t drag this out as the cocklodging won’t change and the longer you’re married, the more he will try and claim

SylviasShoes · 25/02/2025 09:33

Some of the equity went to his debt, the rest as a deposit for a new car which he pays the loan for. I don't use it as I have my own car (albeit breaking down regularly).

My equity has probably been accumulated 50% pre marriage, 50% after. Married 2 years.

Whilst I do feel quite doomed it's the end (as there are other problems too), I really wish it wasn't. It hurts to the core thinking of ending it and I don't have much of a support system to wallow in self pity for however long it takes to get over it. I had hoped the second time I'd get it right

It's quite telling that he had debts when you married- and still does even though he's contributing nothing,

Was debt one reason for his divorce?

What exactly is he in debt for?

I really advise you not to think about 'getting over it' but 'getting rid of'.

You might even benefit from some counselling for support (if you have no friends or family to help.) Maybe you have poor boundaries and are a people pleaser.

You sound isolated. maybe this made you easy prey for a man looking for a woman to provide for him.

You don't need self-pity- you need anger.

LookItsMeAgain · 25/02/2025 09:31

Do you think this is going to get better?
Why would he contribute any money when he is getting everything handed to him on a platter.

Time to separate and then divorce. You should be no worse off but he will be.

sanityisamyth · 25/02/2025 09:28

@Finallybackinbootcuts now ExH turned off paper statements so we didn't have arrive to the house and he kept hiding that pin generator thing that HSBC used to gain access to the online banking.

It was a very financially abusive relationship so don't blame me for his actions.

Nanny0gg · 25/02/2025 09:23

DevonSunSeaSand · 25/02/2025 08:48

Some of the equity went to his debt, the rest as a deposit for a new car which he pays the loan for. I don't use it as I have my own car (albeit breaking down regularly).

My equity has probably been accumulated 50% pre marriage, 50% after. Married 2 years.

Whilst I do feel quite doomed it's the end (as there are other problems too), I really wish it wasn't. It hurts to the core thinking of ending it and I don't have much of a support system to wallow in self pity for however long it takes to get over it. I had hoped the second time I'd get it right. Feelings suck 😂

Please get proper legal advice before you do anything as he may have a claim to your house

And separate internally. Separate rooms. Do not do one solitary thing for him.

FiveBarGate · 25/02/2025 09:22

If you are leaving him do so quickly as he will be entitled to a lot less with a short marriage and assets acquired prior to the marriage.

You don't want to compound your mistake by dragging this out.

I pay the bills in our house and my husband just transfers me an amount each month (less than half). But he buys the food shopping and is the one to pay for treats, meals out etc. He'd happily hand over anything he has if needed.

I don't think it needs to be joint accounts all the way as many do but it does need to be fair.

Billydavey · 25/02/2025 09:21

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 25/02/2025 09:12

Please stop derailing threads by repeatedly stating what you think would happen if the sexes were reversed.

It’s not a derail to point out that advice that many on this thread would disagree with is also inconsistent with what is generally said, and that i personally believe it to be hypocritical of that poster.

do you feel 50:50
is fair when one person earns more?

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