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To think that (some) vaping shops and barbers are fronts ....

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crockofshite · 24/02/2025 23:05

..... for dodgy dealings? There are so many of these shops in every high street, how can there be enough customers to support them?

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CheeseNPickle3 · 25/02/2025 09:51

So, given this is a known (and common) problem, what can ordinary people do and what regulations could be introduced to stop them opening in the first place?

I don't want to support organised crime.

Toddlerteaplease · 25/02/2025 09:50

Dessert cafe's round here. Never any customers in them.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 25/02/2025 09:47

Yes agree. My town small has a couple of vape shops complete with blacked out windows and a pair of nail salons situated next to one another. Must admit I find it all dodgy as hell.

LIZS · 25/02/2025 09:45

And tattoo parlours, nail bars, car washing...

PinkyFlamingo · 25/02/2025 09:44

Same years ago with ice cream vans

LIZS · 25/02/2025 09:41

Money laundering, modern day slavery, immigration scams, identity theft, drug dealing....

Hdjdb42 · 25/02/2025 09:39

Yes! We've been talking about 3 Turkish barbers that's popped up around here! 3! I never see any customers, but they're all still here 1 year later! I swear they're fronts for money laundering. One of them replaced an old barbers, who said the rent was too high to make enough profit. Crazy!

caramac04 · 25/02/2025 09:36

So many nail bars and barber shops. Known for people trafficking.
Businesses run at a loss - barbers with one or two customers a day - money from drug sales put through the till to launder it and make the business seem profitable.
Not every nail bars and barbers but a significant number.
I won’t go to the nail bars and don’t need a barber.

crockofshite · 25/02/2025 09:34

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 25/02/2025 09:23

I thought this was common knowledge. 👀 I, and most people I know have known this for YEARS... That's why many of them only take cash. Some of them are heavily involved in money laundering.

Have you only just 'got' this @crockofshite ?Shock Oh well, better late than never. Smile

Behave, opening a thread doesn't mean it's the first time it's dawned on me.

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User746353 · 25/02/2025 09:32

The whole point of money laundering is that taxes are paid so that money is traceable as "clean" and can be used to purchase things. HMRC won't care about investigating if they are receiving their taxes.

Banks check for money laundering and HMRC check for tax evasion. A bank is not going to bother a dodgy vape shop unless the amounts being deposited are completely out of the norm. HMRC won't send tax inspectors over if they are actually declaring earnings and paying tax on them.

crockofshite · 25/02/2025 09:31

Chinese medicine shops .... Shelves heaving with dusty jars of herbs, never anyone in there, working or buying.

Gift shops full of soft toys and candles and twee crap ....... I mean, really?

There's absolutely no chance they're turning over enough legitimately to pay rates, rent etc.

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sparrowflewdown · 25/02/2025 09:28

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 25/02/2025 09:23

I thought this was common knowledge. 👀 I, and most people I know have known this for YEARS... That's why many of them only take cash. Some of them are heavily involved in money laundering.

Have you only just 'got' this @crockofshite ?Shock Oh well, better late than never. Smile

It is the scale of it now. Our local towns have just become shady, criminal underworlds. Very, sad times.

Guinessandafire · 25/02/2025 09:27

My city centre is now riddled with these, no actual shops anymore because people shop online or go to the huge, very accessible shopping mall near the outskirts of the city.

My daughter went into the 'mobile phone repair and vape shop' , and was quoted an outrageous price for a simple screen issue. They had no intention of doing business with her.

However, it isn't just dodgy eastern Europeans. We have a couple of city centre pubs that are cash only, which makes no commercial sense, and a local ' cash is king ' chippy who are always posting on social media about how great cash is.

Both are owned by white British people, and couldn't be more obvious tax dodgers if they tried.

ASockofFleagulls · 25/02/2025 09:26

It's been widely talked about for years that these establishments are just fronts for 'other' activities.

I also think there is something dodgy going on with our local ice cream van company. They have around 8-10 vans which are out all hours and throughout the winter and sometimes you'll see 3-4 of their vans all in the same road!

GoldenLegend · 25/02/2025 09:26

HeadacheEarthquake · 24/02/2025 23:37

Difference between our local council and vape shops/barbers?

You actually get what you pay for at the vape shops and barbers.

What a pointless, twatty comment.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 25/02/2025 09:23

I thought this was common knowledge. 👀 I, and most people I know have known this for YEARS... That's why many of them only take cash. Some of them are heavily involved in money laundering.

Have you only just 'got' this @crockofshite ?Shock Oh well, better late than never. Smile

Coconutter24 · 25/02/2025 09:23

There are loads of barbers in a town near me but they are always busy cutting hair so plenty of customers to keep them busy

Thelittleweasel · 25/02/2025 09:23

@crockofshite

The problem is that most will go "uninvestigated" as there is simply not the resource in the police or HMRC to carry out the investigations

Chiseltip · 25/02/2025 09:22

EmeraldRoulette · 25/02/2025 00:19

But the only money you could move in and out would be electronic. So that money is already clean? I'm sure there's an answer to this. I just don't know what it is!

See above . .

RavenclawWitchy · 25/02/2025 09:21

Barber shops, vape shops, American "candy" shops, takeaways that are hardly ever open, phone repair shops. The list goes on.

Chiseltip · 25/02/2025 09:20

crockofshite · 24/02/2025 23:24

So if everyone 'knows' these places are shonky how are they allowed to continue their dodgy dealings. They must be easy pickings for customs and excise, HMRC, police etc.

Precisely the opposite.

The reason they exist is to launder money. A "barber shop" can say they trade mostly in either cash, which is untraceable, or card payments, which are laundered using "money mules". The phrase Money Mules refers to the moving of "dirty money" through an account belonging to a someone (usually a gullible teenager) and then sending it back to the criminals via a card transaction at their "barber shop".

Say I make 2k selling drugs, I send £100 to 20 different teenagers, then get them to transfer £20 on to another five accounts owned by me. I'm a real entrepreneur you see, I own five "barber shops" in the arse end of Wales.

That's why in some towns you'll find half a dozen of these places within half a mile of each other. Dodgy as hell, but on paper their accounts suggest that they're a very profitable little business.

The HMRC are interested in collecting Tax, not catching criminals. As long as the books all add up, the HMRC isn't interested.

JoM8 · 25/02/2025 09:20

PearPineappleApplePen · 24/02/2025 23:44

Yesssss, without a doubt. I took my son to our usual Turkish barber (one of very many in the town ). An unsavoury or two walked in with an intimidating presence. One of the barbers looked very scared. The other two had some whisperings with the blokes. Cue begging the unsavouries to come back later and "we'll sort it". Unsavoury then hung around fiddling with the barbers utensils- looked like he was trying to intimidate them. I felt a little uneasy to be honest, especially as I was with my child.
We walked past later and same blokes were there whilst shop was closed, till was open and money exchanging hands. Unsavouries then cycled off with snoods up and one had a balaclava on. I'm 100% certain criminal activity was taking place there. Likely drugs. It's scary.

Yeah, there seems to have been a few stories on the news about stabbings in barbershops in recent years. I remember being in a nail shop and coming out to a crime scene and pool of blood - outside a barbershop.

natalieplusone · 25/02/2025 09:15

Yes have you seen Breaking Bad series. It makes you understand how it happens.

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 25/02/2025 09:13

I thought this about those herbal tea shops you see. Who goes in there?

NewMarmiteJar · 25/02/2025 09:11

There's been all sorts going on behind the scenes in some Turkish kebab shops in north London for decades.

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