Why the fuck would you do this to yourself

What concerns me most is the permanence of it. In 2019 her favoured look was the bleached hair, false eyelashes, fillers etc - quite a mainstream look, and not unique at all. Then she has decided that she no longer wants that look, and made these extreme changes. What happens if/when she decides she no longer wants this look??

I know so many people who've changed their minds, or come to regret their tattoos. Under clothing they can be hidden, which I presume makes that a little easier to live with - but right there on her face, she will not be able to hide.

I know lots of people getting cross at the suggestion that she's mentally ill - but I believe she is going through some kind of trauma to make such extreme life changing decisions. And yes, they ARE life changing decisions.

Questioning the idea that 'her body, her choice' is not bullshit. Sex positivity, a trope of Kinsey, who used paedophiles in his sex research, is not a good pathway for anyone. It allows such phrases as 'sex work is work' and that children have a right to sexual pleasure - an idea that plays straight into the hands of paedophiles. As for 'sex work is work', I agree with the Communist Party (on another thread): a woman's body is not a workplace.

If she ever did change her mind I think a prosthesis would be a better option than a long series of difficult and hugely expensive surgeries with no guarantee of success. I saw a documentary about people getting face prostheses where they had lost an eye or ear and they were impressive.

I think the “bodily autonomy” argument has its limits and in reality we don’t, as a society, actually say everyone has the right to do what they want with their body all the time, and everyone else has a right to aid and abet them. If we did there would be no attempt to prevent suicide or self-harm for example. We understand that these things can arise out of MH issues and sometimes a sign that people need help or treatment and can recover and not want to do those things. People can be persuaded or coerced into doing all sorts of things “willingly” if they’re vulnerable, involved in a cult, etc. it’s not straightforward.

I would think she’s got serious mental health problems , she looks like a monster now horrible so sad

Fillers can look equally as ridiculous if done to the extreme like that poor Jocelyn 'bride of Wildenstein' lady, but generally they are not.

This lady looks like she is featuring in a horror film, she looks absolutely terrible and no amount of 'her body her choice' changes that.

I feel sorry for her.

My thoughts exactly

Gosh..to scared to click.
I was actually doing research on the Inuit custom of tattooing. My family disapprove a lot of tattoos in general, similar views to pps who think it's stupid & uncouth. I think a moderate one can be really cool- I read once Christina Ricci has a lion bc of the Narnia chronicles. And I get doing it for cultural reasons. If I were braver I might get a small one.

But fundamentally I find the idea of marking yourself w ink frightening, & this is an extreme manifestation. What will it do to her health? Let alone the Black Alien guy... Yhere's a reason full body tattoos are a sign of endurance for the Yakuza gangs in Japan. All that ink must be v unhealthy... I read once about a carnival lady who had the Last Supper tattooed on her back, pressured to exhibit by her husband. This poor woman is putting herself in an uncomftable position potentially

Only because it trivialised what this woman has done to her body.

Anyway, her look obvious isn't many people's taste but it's her body and her business.

With the risk of sounding like a 5 year old, you started it by commenting on my grammar.

They are not remotely similar, can’t you see that? It is relatively straightforward to reverse a boob job. A better comparison would be someone having an elective mastectomy for non-medical reasons. Although even this would be less ‘extreme’ imo because 1. Breasts are a far less visible part of the body, 2. Breast reconstruction surgery is considerably less complicated and more successful than nose reconstruction.

Cut her nose off to spite her face

Huh? Being drawn in to self abuse?

🎂🍰🧁🥮

Did you really need to comment on my grammar?

Yes it's cakes body modification, still no need for the inverted commas

Because that is what it is called by those who do it and those that have it done.

In the article linked the CPS decided it was GBH.

Many consider it mutilation.

Why did you put an apostrophe in a plural?

The thread had moved on a lot but actually what a pp said about face fillers, extensions, lip fillers rings true. It's just that this woman isn't doing body mods in that way and isn't acceptable and 'pretty' to their eyes, but what's the difference?

Weeeelllll... lots of people think that fillers, tattooed giant eyebrows, plastic breasts, duck lips, alien-like face lifts, gluing pieces of plastic to your hands and thinking it looks "glamorous", weird things that look like spiders glued above your eyes or dyeing you skin orange, or attempts to suck fat from your belly and inject it into your arse or whatever else. 🤣 The majority of people would find any of that vain and unattractive and it is like walking around with a neon light on top of your head advertising how insecure you are.

I'm not sure that highlighting that many people do these weird things to themselves and sadly believe that it makes them look better is a very good argument for advocating that it's perfectly normal to chop off half of your nose and dye your eyeballs, because it's not that much worse than the way other people wreck their faces and bodies with various levels of permanence.

Most people without mental health issues of some kind have no desire to spend their time or money doing any of the above.

What is the difference really? Can anyone answer that?
Extreme, she got part of her nose cut off.
Extreme, she gets a "boob job" ie, silicone or saline pumped into her breasts so they are larger.

Fine, but you’ve stated, more than once I think, that she can simply ‘get it reconstructed’ in reply to posters wondering if she might regret the nose amputation at some point down the line. So I had to put you right there. If she does change her mind, there will be little recourse. Let’s hope she doesn’t.

But for now, she is happy with no nose. Who are we to tell her otherwise?

You can’t just ‘reverse’ a nose amputation. You think that cosmetic surgery is far more advanced than it is if you reckon a nose can simply be reconstructed like it never happened. It’s not like having a nose job or something. What do you think the surgeons are going to do, stitch a new nose on?

The surgery would be complicated. She would probably need some kind of forehead flap and separate cartilage graft, over multiple surgeries. People do not have these ‘all the time’. I imagine she would struggle to raise the funds.

Because those are seen as pretty and acceptable.
Some one who wants to look different to that must be "ill" or being "taken advantage of".

i now wish u good night .