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So fed up of stories like this every single year. Stupid bloody Skiing.

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ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 23:00

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14427223/British-schoolboy-14-killed-skiing-accident-northern-Italy.html

This poor lad, only 14 years old, crashes headlong into a tree at speed and dies of chest injuries right in front of his parents.

What's so fucking great about skiing? Every year without fail there are stories like this and I'm sick of them. I know someone who became permanently disabled and slightly brain damaged after a skiing accident in his 20s.

As parents we don't encourage our kids to get into cars and drive them at speed round a race track with very little training every half term in February do we? We don't stick them on the backs of race horses and slap their arses and watch them go over hurdles. We don't encourage them to dive off high cliffs into the sea below and hope that they manage to miss the rocks as they land. So why do we continually let them hurl down mountainsides at god knows how many miles an hour, hoping that they manage not to collide with a tree or hit their heads on a rock?

I don't get it. I never will. However 'fun' it might be it can't possibly be worth the stupid level of risk.

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DingDingRound3 · 25/02/2025 13:13

You say that, but just how much hot choc with a dash of malt WHISKEY are you downing 😱😂 @chocmalt

Flustration · 25/02/2025 12:57

chocmalt · 25/02/2025 03:14

I'm glad I don't need thrill-seeker adventures to feel fulfilled. I get enough enjoyment out of my life without taking what I see as unnecessary risk. Yes, I drive, but I see that as a necessary risk. I guess that's what it always comes back to: We each have our own set of rules for what is and isn't worth it.

Sorry @chocmalt but this made me laugh.

I love the idea that people who don't ski might assume I am spending my holidays indulged in thrill-seeking adventures, rather than pootling around the mountain at a leisurely pace from cafe to cafe.

DingDingRound3 · 25/02/2025 12:44

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 24/02/2025 12:45

Again, proportionately in terms of the numbers of people who ski versus the number of people who go in cars, and hour for hour spend doing both, probably not.

So what, I would still rather die on my skis! Some of us like skiing... a lot

Lanzarotelady · 25/02/2025 12:13

chocmalt · 25/02/2025 03:14

I'm glad I don't need thrill-seeker adventures to feel fulfilled. I get enough enjoyment out of my life without taking what I see as unnecessary risk. Yes, I drive, but I see that as a necessary risk. I guess that's what it always comes back to: We each have our own set of rules for what is and isn't worth it.

Christ alive, sit at home polishing your halo and clutching your pearls! What do you do for fun, put an extra lettuce leaf on?

hakunahakuna · 25/02/2025 11:47

chocmalt · 25/02/2025 03:14

I'm glad I don't need thrill-seeker adventures to feel fulfilled. I get enough enjoyment out of my life without taking what I see as unnecessary risk. Yes, I drive, but I see that as a necessary risk. I guess that's what it always comes back to: We each have our own set of rules for what is and isn't worth it.

You sound exciting!!!!

I'm sure skiers have a fulfilled life too!

Perhaps they just went on a skiing holiday (ie with the school), enjoyed it, and want to go again!!!!!

Funnywonder · 25/02/2025 09:48

Why didn’t you mock my post in full view of everyone @BlueWhippetsForever instead of leaving a pathetic little laugh emoji in secret? If you have an opinion, just give it.

CassandraWebb · 25/02/2025 07:18

Needspaceforlego · 25/02/2025 02:18

You can get soft silicone straws, that have to be saver than the steel ones that are like a ridgid pipe.

I don't know if the MS family were secretive about the accident, but I sort of get why they are secretive about his condition now. It was reported at the time
Hes obviously not able to give consent for photos or film to be published. And nobody would really want undignified photos of themselves in the public domain.

Not really any different to the older footballers and other celebrities who've ended up in nursing homes with dementia.

Exactly this. I think it's quite right they don't give details.

Natsku · 25/02/2025 03:42

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 24/02/2025 22:08

Lots of people injure themselves jogging.

Most runners myself included have running injuries.

Sure you can injure yourself jogging, but you can't kick yourself in the eye with skis Grin

Though I'd say cross country skiing is likelier more risk of injury than jogging because you will be going faster than a jogging pace, especially when going down hills, and you can't stop suddenly if there's an obstacle, like a fallen tree just round the corner on a hill. And then there's the risk of snowmobilers crossing the path suddenly, even though they're supposed to be careful of skiers.

chocmalt · 25/02/2025 03:14

I'm glad I don't need thrill-seeker adventures to feel fulfilled. I get enough enjoyment out of my life without taking what I see as unnecessary risk. Yes, I drive, but I see that as a necessary risk. I guess that's what it always comes back to: We each have our own set of rules for what is and isn't worth it.

Needspaceforlego · 25/02/2025 02:34

@sunbum I've just read a report pretty much confirming what you said, he'd gone off-piste to help another skier. Hit one rock was thrown into the air and landed on another, the helmet split in two.

It doesn't mention Go-Pro but what a nightmare for the person he went to help. Imagine trying to live with that knowledge someone had a life changing injury trying to help you.

Needspaceforlego · 25/02/2025 02:18

TheFormidableMrsC · 24/02/2025 23:48

@sunbum is that what happened to MS? A go pro injury? Why are they so secretive about it? It's bloody tragic. Stupid life changing (or death) accidents can happen in all sorts of ludicrous situations. I dwell on the woman who tripped over while holding a cup with a reusable straw and it went straight into her brain through her eye. She died. I don't let my son use those now. I've got a drawer full of them while I try to be environmentally aware 🙄

You can get soft silicone straws, that have to be saver than the steel ones that are like a ridgid pipe.

I don't know if the MS family were secretive about the accident, but I sort of get why they are secretive about his condition now. It was reported at the time
Hes obviously not able to give consent for photos or film to be published. And nobody would really want undignified photos of themselves in the public domain.

Not really any different to the older footballers and other celebrities who've ended up in nursing homes with dementia.

sunbum · 25/02/2025 00:01

Rich family, controlling the narrative, I guess. there was a lot of hush money paid around the time. A french journalist got taken to court by the family and settled, not said anything since etc. Powerful, rich man with a huge ego, adrenaline junkie, it's a pretty humiliating way to end up I guess, for a man like that, so the details were all supressed in the media. I think Go Pro were also involve as their stock dropped .... But the locals talk about it.

TheFormidableMrsC · 24/02/2025 23:48

@sunbum is that what happened to MS? A go pro injury? Why are they so secretive about it? It's bloody tragic. Stupid life changing (or death) accidents can happen in all sorts of ludicrous situations. I dwell on the woman who tripped over while holding a cup with a reusable straw and it went straight into her brain through her eye. She died. I don't let my son use those now. I've got a drawer full of them while I try to be environmentally aware 🙄

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 24/02/2025 22:08

Natsku · 24/02/2025 07:44

Dunno about it being no more dangerous than going for a jog - my DD fell while cross country skiing and managed to kick herself in the eye with her ski! Can't really injured yourself like that jogging.

Lots of people injure themselves jogging.

Most runners myself included have running injuries.

WendyFromTransvisionWamp · 24/02/2025 21:42

sunbum · 24/02/2025 15:54

Wearing a helmet with a go pro camera attached - which pierced his brain when he fell. He likely would have been ok if he hadn't had that on his helmet - a pretty dumb thing to do but was common back then - you see much less of it now.

Ah yes, I had a vague memory of there being a go-pro on his helmet, on the side and it being there contributed to his brain injury. But I couldn’t be arsed to google the details so decided to leave it out.

DeepFatFried · 24/02/2025 19:12

Talk about wanging on, OP......

hakunahakuna · 24/02/2025 19:00

Apparently around 400 million people go skiing every year (I think that may be in addition to those that ski all the time as they live in snowy areas).

You therefore need to get this into perspective!

CharismaticMegafauna · 24/02/2025 18:58

I have a son about to go on a school ski trip and a daughter who loves horse-riding, so I hate reading articles like this. There’s also a swimming coach at my local pool who is in a wheelchair after a skiing accident (he collided with another skier). I think terrible accidents like this make the news because they are rare, or different, whereas car accidents barely make the local news. (I realise that driving may be a necessity and skiing isn’t). One of my daughter’s friends was left severely brain damaged and paralysed after a car crash.

Swiftie1878 · 24/02/2025 18:54

I don’t know what you’re trying to achieve with this thread, but, yes, skiing can be dangerous as can many, many other sports, pastimes and activities.
Everyone does their own risk/benefit assessment and goes from there. I take my child skiing, but I wouldn’t allow them to do boxing for example. Each to their own.

I don’t know why you are quite so agitated that not everyone makes the same assessments and decisions you do. Let it go!

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 24/02/2025 18:36

ItShouldntHappenToMeYet · 24/02/2025 06:56

OP, do you make such gross generalisations in all aspects of your life, and is this disdain for skiing down to jealousy? It's a shame you seem so taxed about something that doesn't affect you, nor are not forced to participate it.

Edited

Definitely not jealousy, no. I could afford to go skiing three times a year if I wanted to. I don't.

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WorriedRelative · 24/02/2025 17:55

Logslogslogs · 24/02/2025 16:36

I agree, OP. I wouldn't ski again, although I've been a keen rider which also comes with risks. But the differences are that the slopes are ridiculously crowded (which either leads to collisions or else people being tempted to go off piste), and you don't get many people riding who can't ride (outside of a riding school or other closely supervised environment), whereas ski resorts are absolutely packed with people who have only the most basic ability at skiing, which again leads to collisions and poor decision making. The riding equivalent would be if you got hundreds of people who had been on a horse once or twice a few years ago, put them all in a field together, gave them a few drinks at lunch and then suggested they do whatever they fancy. It would be carnage.

Per hour I think riding is more dangerous (although it depends exactly what you're comparing) but I find it much easier to gauge the risks and decide whether to take them- it's dangerous because it's an inherently dangerous sport. Skiing doesn't seem to have any of that- it's an inherently dangerous sport but it's also (as practised at a typical ski resort by a typical skier) a chaotic free-for-all in which people with almost no ability are encouraged to take substantial risks. Crackers.

You've never been hunting then! 🤣

Literally a bunch of people of varied experience, some on strange horses, drinking alcohol and galloping around with few rules or regulations.

TheKeatingFive · 24/02/2025 17:50

My understanding of Schumacher's accident is that it was a freak one and he was extraordinarily unlucky.

But you don't have to be skiing for that. I know of someone who died because they fell down the stairs and broke their neck in their house.

sunbum · 24/02/2025 17:46

Needspaceforlego · 24/02/2025 16:21

OMG 😲 I didn't know he had a Go Pro on.

I did know they weren't recommended for putting on helmets when I bought DH his I read and found alternative like having it on his chest or on the strap of his backpack.

yeah exactly, used to be commonplace to see people filming while skiing with the Go Pro on the helmet. V rarely see it now, for that reason. Not officially mentioned butbif you go to Meribel, where Schumacher's accident happened, all the instructors and lifties tell you. They also point out where it happened. He wasnt even really off piste, he we skiing between 2 pistes on the ungroomed bit under a lift, apparently. He was also very unlucky.

user1471516498 · 24/02/2025 17:26

l lived in Czechia when I was young, and there was a v small (and janky) ski slope near us, and everyone just taught themselves. I then went skiing properly and the instructor said that people like me are actually worse than beginners, because of bad habits.

Needspaceforlego · 24/02/2025 17:07

It's also very difficult to say someone is capable of skiing say Reds because the Reds in one resort might not be the same difficulty as a different resort. Each resort grades their own runs.

Runs become easier and harder depending on the snow conditions. A nicely groomed red with fresh snow can be easier than a chewed up Blue in the same resort

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