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So fed up of stories like this every single year. Stupid bloody Skiing.

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ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 23:00

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14427223/British-schoolboy-14-killed-skiing-accident-northern-Italy.html

This poor lad, only 14 years old, crashes headlong into a tree at speed and dies of chest injuries right in front of his parents.

What's so fucking great about skiing? Every year without fail there are stories like this and I'm sick of them. I know someone who became permanently disabled and slightly brain damaged after a skiing accident in his 20s.

As parents we don't encourage our kids to get into cars and drive them at speed round a race track with very little training every half term in February do we? We don't stick them on the backs of race horses and slap their arses and watch them go over hurdles. We don't encourage them to dive off high cliffs into the sea below and hope that they manage to miss the rocks as they land. So why do we continually let them hurl down mountainsides at god knows how many miles an hour, hoping that they manage not to collide with a tree or hit their heads on a rock?

I don't get it. I never will. However 'fun' it might be it can't possibly be worth the stupid level of risk.

OP posts:
Tauranga · 24/02/2025 02:05

Tabbsi · 23/02/2025 23:35

I am Scandinavian and we are taught to ski very young and it’s always been a part of life. I live in the UK now and find it so weird that British people love to ski, it’s not part of their landscape like in Scandinavian countries of parts of France or indeed elsewhere so it’s odd to me, it seems a sort of aspirational thing to do for British people I guess

We are Scottish and my son skies every week, sometimes more, on a dry slope. Then they fo abroad for extra training. So it is part of life for some Brits, and Scotland is not far from anywhere in the UK really...

BlumminFreezin · 24/02/2025 02:04

You can't go through life shielding your kids from all risk.

If I think back over the last 12 months, mine have:
Been on a plane
Been on a jetski
Been open water swimming (out of their depth) more times than I can remember, both UK and abroad
Been trampolining
Climbed up and down cliff faces...the kinds with 'paths', but steep and scrambling/much care needed to avoid a very nasty fall
One dc has been skiing
Another one (17) went to a 3 day festival with no supervision
Been on themepark rides
Cycled miles on roads

Probably loads more. Every one of those activities regularly (although some infrequently) causes death.

For all those who are 'OMG I could never let my dc ski' just think about everything they actually do. You're not a superior parent for not skiing due to the risk. You likely let your kids take risks every day.

NotVeryFunny · 24/02/2025 02:04

HotCrossBunplease · 24/02/2025 00:11

It’s very clear that most of the people scaremongering about skiing in this thread have never actually been skiing.

My brother was an expert snowboarder, used to spend whole seasons in the Alps, hiking for miles off-piste and boarding down remote gullies.

He’s in a wheelchair now after a spinal cord injury. Which he sustained in a workplace accident on a beautiful summer’s day in Birmingham.

As soon as he could, he took up para-skiing.

Exactly. This thread is ridiculous quite frankly and scaremongering.

NotVeryFunny · 24/02/2025 01:58

MsVi · 23/02/2025 23:29

Serious accidents can happen in many sports. Horseriding, water sports, rugby, cycling, rock climbing, diving…. Maybe we should all stay at home in our little boxes and never do anything.

This.

Loads of activities, jobs and hobbies can be dangerous. Life becomes very boring and oppressive if risk is removed in the name of "safety".

People can also die or be harmed doing very normal things. It would be very annoying to limit your life experiences and avoid all things "dangerous" then die crossing the road or by falling off a step ladder!

wordler · 24/02/2025 01:48

It’s hard to explain but it’s not all about risk and speed for a lot of skiers - I’m a quite risk adverse person so I always take lots of refresher lessons and stick mainly to the easier slopes but the joyful feeling that goes through your whole body when you glide down a mountain.

It’s like happiness and serenity and a whoosh of pleasure all wrapped up in one feeling.

Goldenbear · 24/02/2025 01:48

Zofloramummy · 24/02/2025 01:38

My dd went skiing with the school. It wasn’t something I’d ever been interested in and certainly not something I could afford to pay for both of us to go. I took her to lessons beforehand and she got up to blue/red slopes by the end of the week. She really enjoyed it.

I really think we should encourage our children (within limits) to live bigger lives. Get off the sofa and into the real world. She has also been to Sicily for a geography trip and went up Mt Etna (and it’s a little bit active at the moment) and is going on an outdoor activities holiday to Snowdonia this summer. Life is full of risks, most of them are smaller than we fear them to be.

I appreciate what you are arguing - i E broadening horizons but sport is not the only way to do this.

Goldenbear · 24/02/2025 01:45

My DH enjoys skiing but I am not keen as in my social group I know of one snowboarder that was paralysed from the neck down and they were pretty young when it happend. I also have one friend who broke their arm and another who injured their back and was out of action for about 9 months! I am not interested anyway and neither are my Teens.

SunnyPaw · 24/02/2025 01:44

Actually, I also want to try skiing, but after seeing many people around me getting into accidents, I don’t dare to go.

MonkeyRum · 24/02/2025 01:41

not many people ski. Far more people drive, and if they don’t drive they’re still pedestrians. There are far more accidents on roads than there are skiing. Plus, you don’t ski all year round.

Every sport has its risks, that’s one of the reasons people do it (for the andrenaline or the buzz of the endorphins) but you can’t wrap everyone in cotton wool.

Zofloramummy · 24/02/2025 01:38

My dd went skiing with the school. It wasn’t something I’d ever been interested in and certainly not something I could afford to pay for both of us to go. I took her to lessons beforehand and she got up to blue/red slopes by the end of the week. She really enjoyed it.

I really think we should encourage our children (within limits) to live bigger lives. Get off the sofa and into the real world. She has also been to Sicily for a geography trip and went up Mt Etna (and it’s a little bit active at the moment) and is going on an outdoor activities holiday to Snowdonia this summer. Life is full of risks, most of them are smaller than we fear them to be.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 24/02/2025 01:38

goodkidsmaadhouse · 23/02/2025 23:09

Statistically you are really, really unlikely to die while skiing. Depending on the data you look at it’s in the realm of 1 death per 1 million skiier days.

And parents absolutely let their kids get in cars (they don’t need to be going round a race track to be potentially lethal), ride horses (ditto - no need to be racing to have a serious accident), swim in open water… As parents we all want our kids to have fulfilling and enjoyable lives. That necessarily involves risk.

I agree. Children die every week in regular old car accidents and though it doesn't happen often, I can still remember how haunted my medic friends were when they were called to the scene of a horse accident. The rider slipped, and their foot was caught in the stirrups. It spooked the horse, so it took off with the rider still attached. Suffice to say it was a horrible tradegy and it was that person's horse, so not even a riding lesson. Just out having fun. Skiing is dangerous, but any sport or fun can be dangerous. Amusement parks, sledding, biking, trail running, rock climbing, baseball, all have tragedies yearly.

colinthedogfromaccounts · 24/02/2025 01:36

Louisetheroux · 23/02/2025 23:47

You wouldn't catch me going skiing for this reason and I wouldn't be happy for my child to either.

The thing is, the kind of people who go on skiing holidays are privileged, and far more likely to have a sense of entitlement and think this kind of thing couldn't possibly ever happen to them.

Oh do give your head a wobble. Plenty of normal people ski. You are making assumptions that aren't valid.

Louisetheroux · 24/02/2025 01:34

RawBloomers · 24/02/2025 01:21

It is bloody marvelous. It's exhilarating. I used to get a similar thrill from hang gliding, too.

You get physical exertion and great views. Once you've got the hang of them you feel on top of the world when everything slides into place. Great for physical and mental health.

Dying young is always tragic. But risk is an inherent part of living. You don't have to do the riskier stuff, but they normally have rewards you don't get in other ways.

This is a revealing mindset.

People who already have security in their life, the affluent types who can afford to go skiing etc, are very often risk seekers. They'll find it exhilarating.

People who worry about how they're going to put food on the table or heat their house are far more likely to be risk averse.

So you're right, risk is an inherent part of living, but that comes in very different forms.

TheNameisNOTZiggy · 24/02/2025 01:30

Skiing is an amazing sport.
Being in the mountains is amazing.
Spending all day outside, having fun with your F&F, in the fresh air and moving your body..... very little compares.

The freedom. Is exquisite. .

By necessity you have to be in the moment. So you leave all your worries behind. No work. No ancient family discord. No gossipy work colleagues. No worrying. Just the mountains and you.

And yes. It is more dangerous than going for a run on a track near your house. But the feeling cannot be compared.

And yes. Of course it is terrible when there is an accident. But like the rest of life you can take precautions and manage risk. But you can never manage a risk down to zero.

If we wanted that We would never leave the house. Never let our kids play sports. Never let them use the tube or learn to drive. We would certainly never let them on a computer.

But we do. We risk assess and make the right decisions for us and our families.

If you don't fancy skiing then you do you and don't.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 24/02/2025 01:29

You are v v unlikely to die while skiing and life cannot be purely about risk minimization. having said that, I let our daughter ski only with her father on family holidays (I do not ski) and would say no to skiing on school trips. Too much silly behavior going on.

colinthedogfromaccounts · 24/02/2025 01:28

Meh - millions ski and snowboard and love it. You don't get to be angry with their choices. It's not for you or your family - leave it at that.

Personally - I don't particularly love it - my children and husband do though. We have been skiing many times without incident.

mathanxiety · 24/02/2025 01:27

AnnaL94 · 24/02/2025 00:19

it seems a sort of aspirational thing to do for wealthy British people

I don’t know any plebs (like me) who have ever been skiing. I didn’t even know ski school trips were a thing until I went to university.

Why do some British people assume there's a hierarchy to all things, and why do they use the word 'aspirational' when 'curiosity' or 'eagerness to take on a challenge' or 'getting out of your comfort zone' would be valid alternatives?

The long reach of the class system has a lot to answer for.

Maybe in another 75 years, if there's still snow, future generations will venture skiing. After all, it would have been unthinkable back in 1950 for plebs to board planes for Benidorm or Ibiza or Lanzarote.

NattyTurtle59 · 24/02/2025 01:25

MsVi · 23/02/2025 23:52

Oh get over yourself. Loads of people ski from all social classes. Big old chip on your shoulder there.

This. I live in a country where we have a skifield practically on our doorstep. All sorts of people ski, kids go up with the school and lots of little kids ski with their parents. I've never wanted to ski myself, but never give a thought to it being actually dangerous. I hear of far more injuries and deaths from other sports.

Far more people here drown every year than die skiing.

RawBloomers · 24/02/2025 01:21

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 23:27

It's the way people wang on as if it's so bloody marvellous that gets me. It's dangerous and irresponsible and even if statistically you might not have a high chance of dying, I think you have a pretty high chance of getting hurt. I realise life is to be lived and it's not completely risk free. I just don't understand why so many people would actively choose to let their whole family do something that is so high risk. When it goes wrong it's not just a broken arm or ankle, it's brain damage.

It is bloody marvelous. It's exhilarating. I used to get a similar thrill from hang gliding, too.

You get physical exertion and great views. Once you've got the hang of them you feel on top of the world when everything slides into place. Great for physical and mental health.

Dying young is always tragic. But risk is an inherent part of living. You don't have to do the riskier stuff, but they normally have rewards you don't get in other ways.

Louisetheroux · 24/02/2025 01:19

BlueWhippetsForever · 24/02/2025 00:46

*Louisetheroux *
I added it in to show the holiday was about more than just skiing, for those who are incredulous at spending a holiday doing such a DEADLY sport 😅 There were loads of great aspects to it.

And seeing as you brought it up, DC is gcse level and fairly fluent so practised a lot. They did most of the talking as my language skills are sadly lacking in comparison.

Why have you capitalised deadly like that with a laughing emoji, as if the suggestion is utterly ridiculous? This thread is literally about a skiing fatality. It does happen.

Orangeandgold · 24/02/2025 01:19

I agree with you OP. I think some people love the thrill, but for those of us that don’t care about risky sports - I’d rather be left out of it thanks.

The difference between using a car and skiing, is one is done for convenience and to get things done - and yes it’s unfortunate when there is a car accident. Whilst skiing is a choice - it’s a sport and it’s like getting on a rollercoaster- abit of fun, but you’re praying nothing goes wrong and when it does /m- it’s horrific.

I think skiing is seen as cool or has some kind of social badge attached to it - I couldn’t care less, but wish people wouldn’t glamourise it and push the FOMO

JoyousGreyOrca · 24/02/2025 01:06

As a higher-risk yet popular sport, overall injury rate from skiing is close to one injury per 1,000 days skied. And, skiing can result in various types of injuries, affecting different parts of the body. The most common are:

  • Anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) rupture or sprain
  • Medial collateral ligament (MCL) rupture or sprain
  • Shoulder sprains, fractures and dislocations
  • Wrist and thumb fractures
  • Head injuries, whiplash and concussion
  • Torn rotator cuff

https://www.kingedwardvii.co.uk/health-hub/preparing-for-ski-season-common-ski-injuries-how-to-prevent-them

AleaEim · 24/02/2025 01:01

it’s not normsl in my social class to go skiing so never has to think about it. I can’t imagine paying that much money to go somewhere cold.

FloreatE · 24/02/2025 00:58

My DC have skied since they were 5, late teens now. They also ride and shoot. Any sport that has specific risks needs to be approached sensibly but if those risks can be mitigated, it's healthy. The one change I would make to ski culture is the heavy use of alcohol during the skiing day- we don't think it's OK to drink and drive but there is a lot of drinking at lunchtime on the slopes. I don't think alcohol and guns mix well either.
But with sensible precautions the risk feels to me much lower than cycling on town or rural roads, and I was very glad when my DC stopped playing rugby at 13- I know so many adult men living with old rugby injuries, plus the issue of brain damage.

Moonshine5 · 24/02/2025 00:49

Been skiing - my understanding is that the preponderance of injury is much higher than average sports. Statistics obviously can be manipulated to reflect any discourse.