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So fed up of stories like this every single year. Stupid bloody Skiing.

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ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 23:00

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14427223/British-schoolboy-14-killed-skiing-accident-northern-Italy.html

This poor lad, only 14 years old, crashes headlong into a tree at speed and dies of chest injuries right in front of his parents.

What's so fucking great about skiing? Every year without fail there are stories like this and I'm sick of them. I know someone who became permanently disabled and slightly brain damaged after a skiing accident in his 20s.

As parents we don't encourage our kids to get into cars and drive them at speed round a race track with very little training every half term in February do we? We don't stick them on the backs of race horses and slap their arses and watch them go over hurdles. We don't encourage them to dive off high cliffs into the sea below and hope that they manage to miss the rocks as they land. So why do we continually let them hurl down mountainsides at god knows how many miles an hour, hoping that they manage not to collide with a tree or hit their heads on a rock?

I don't get it. I never will. However 'fun' it might be it can't possibly be worth the stupid level of risk.

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Needspaceforlego · 27/02/2025 11:16

I'm curious how mountain biking or more widely off road biking compares to road cycling for accidents and injuries.
But I can't find anything possibly not searching into the best places.

BobbySox71 · 27/02/2025 09:39

SALaw · 27/02/2025 00:04

Why do so many of us hear of more ski accidents than any of those then?

Scuba divers have perished on dive boats recently in Egypt, Kirsty MacColl was killed by a reckless boat driver while surfacing from a dive. I know some who died of the bends. I’ve 500+ dives in my log book but never came close to harm even diving with sharks.

I’ve had my fair share of tumbles horse riding and broke my arm once, friend had same injury falling down a step.

Mielikki · 27/02/2025 09:35

@JarvisIsland heh, I would never guess you were a cyclist with that username! 😉Ride on!

bengalcat · 27/02/2025 08:33

I ski because I love it - my idea of heaven is up the top of a mountain covered in snow ( the mountain not me ! ) with the sun shining - so peaceful

CruCru · 27/02/2025 08:29

Sunhatweather · 27/02/2025 07:54

I hate skiing and I dislike that most people only do it to be able to say that they go skiing. There were so many children coming back to school with skiing injuries after the holidays every year. Awful.
These are the same people who purposefully buy large 4x4s and must own a Labrador. Desperate to appear part of a particular social class and prepared to climb like wisteria.

This is a bit odd. Lots of people have come on here to say how much they enjoy skiing (including me). Are they all putting it on?

One of the things that I enjoy about skiing is that the family all do it together (also what I love about sailing). It’s a real source of pleasure to be able to get up into the French mountains and ski.

If you hate skiing then you definitely shouldn’t go.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 27/02/2025 07:57

SALaw · 27/02/2025 07:44

@GargoylesofBeelzebub I live in Scotland and work in a legal office - yes it is

You understand I was taking about myself right? I ski for the love of it.

And I bet the folk in your office don't actually ski in Scotland but go abroad.

Sunhatweather · 27/02/2025 07:54

I hate skiing and I dislike that most people only do it to be able to say that they go skiing. There were so many children coming back to school with skiing injuries after the holidays every year. Awful.
These are the same people who purposefully buy large 4x4s and must own a Labrador. Desperate to appear part of a particular social class and prepared to climb like wisteria.

GoldHam · 27/02/2025 07:52

Oblomov25 · 27/02/2025 04:40

It's not the death that worries me. It's the idiots. That could hurt you, break your bone, ruin your holiday. People who aren't proficient, beginners on red or black runs, irresponsible ski'ers. There's no guarantees that others will obey rules and common courtesies, the rules of the slopes . snowboarders taking out the whole lift.

snowboarder

It’s the same everywhere in life. Replace skier / boarder with ‘road user’ and recognise that you take your life in your hands every time you leave home - especially if you do so on foot or a bicycle.

Abra1t · 27/02/2025 07:50

I don’t work in law firms so how would I know? Why did you tag me?

SALaw · 27/02/2025 07:46

@Abra1t I work in a law office. Are the people that go skiing the partners and senior lawyers or the secretaries and print room operatives?

SALaw · 27/02/2025 07:44

@GargoylesofBeelzebub I live in Scotland and work in a legal office - yes it is

jasflowers · 27/02/2025 07:24

Ask Michael Schumacher? incredible he had a long and successful career in a very dangerous sport, then went skiing.

Friends of mine have just returned from a skiing trip, c/w a multiple leg fracture, they are supposed to be going on a cycling holiday to Spain next month.

Lower limp injuries seem to be very common with people who ski occasionally.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 27/02/2025 07:16

SALaw · 27/02/2025 00:02

There was a poster here the other day whose husband was in a coma in France after a ski accident. Why do people take that very real and not unheard of risk for the sake of keeping up with the Tarquins and Jocastas?!?

I ski in Scotland mostly. Believe me that's not about keeping up with the Tarquin's and Jocastas. 😂

And I ski with braces on my knees because I slipped and injured my knees and had to have them operated on. I didn't do that skiing though. I did it playing TENNIS.

bengalcat · 27/02/2025 06:31

i Ski as I drive - anticipation - watching (some) idiot drivers and likewise non proficient skiers .i would only go off piste with an instructor . Given up on my early 20’s Jäegermeister before the last run down - slopes are more crowded now , except for black runs so I often pull over and let the throng go by before taking off again .
Parapenting is fun though

love and do both skiing and horse riding

Abra1t · 27/02/2025 06:15

SALaw · 27/02/2025 00:02

There was a poster here the other day whose husband was in a coma in France after a ski accident. Why do people take that very real and not unheard of risk for the sake of keeping up with the Tarquins and Jocastas?!?

Because they’re not doing it to keep up with anyone? Perhaps they like clean air, beautiful scenery and a very enjoyable form of outdoor exercise.

Oblomov25 · 27/02/2025 04:40

It's not the death that worries me. It's the idiots. That could hurt you, break your bone, ruin your holiday. People who aren't proficient, beginners on red or black runs, irresponsible ski'ers. There's no guarantees that others will obey rules and common courtesies, the rules of the slopes . snowboarders taking out the whole lift.

snowboarder

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/02/2025 01:58

According to the National Ski Areas Association (NSAA), there are an average of 39 skiing and snowboarding fatalities per year in the United States alone. Additionally, there are over 45,000 skiing and snowboarding-related injuries each year that require hospital attention.

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/02/2025 01:56

Skiing accidents that result in death are rare. Injuries to limbs, especially knees, and broken bones are fairly common.

Needspaceforlego · 27/02/2025 01:26

SALaw · 27/02/2025 00:04

Why do so many of us hear of more ski accidents than any of those then?

Because ski accidents are actually quite rare.

If 200 people are killed cycling every year, that's 4 people a week. It's not news it's every other day normal.

Same with drowning I honestly didn't think it would be 400 people that's more than one a day. OK lots of them will be bathroom incidents. Some might be fishing accidents, And some might be intentional. But it's a heck of a lot of people.
So unless there is something exceptional about the incidents, like 3 people drowning in one incident, it's not going to make the local news, never mind national news.

SALaw · 27/02/2025 00:04

MsVi · 23/02/2025 23:29

Serious accidents can happen in many sports. Horseriding, water sports, rugby, cycling, rock climbing, diving…. Maybe we should all stay at home in our little boxes and never do anything.

Why do so many of us hear of more ski accidents than any of those then?

SALaw · 27/02/2025 00:02

There was a poster here the other day whose husband was in a coma in France after a ski accident. Why do people take that very real and not unheard of risk for the sake of keeping up with the Tarquins and Jocastas?!?

BobbySox71 · 26/02/2025 23:57

JarvisIsland · 26/02/2025 23:51

I think we both agree on horse riding being riskier than skiing!

Yes but I’ve not desire to ski lol, it’s not my thing but riding is.

JarvisIsland · 26/02/2025 23:51

BobbySox71 · 26/02/2025 23:42

As a horse rider I would put it as more riskier than skiing as you are trying to control an animal that weighs more than half a tonne for average adult. Same animal is not a machine and has independent thoughts and feelings.
I’m nowhere near a professional but a middle aged horse owner/rider who loves the animal first and sport second. The worst that happened to me was a broken arm which was partly my fault, a friend had same injury tripping over a step.
Just last week a 24 year old professional Irish jockey died which is sad.

I think we both agree on horse riding being riskier than skiing!

BobbySox71 · 26/02/2025 23:42

JarvisIsland · 26/02/2025 21:24

Everyone’s perception of risk is based on what they are skilled in. I’d put skiing, cycling and ice skating way down the list of risky things because I’m good at them (independently deemed good at them, I’ve represented England in the past at one of them) compared to horse riding (never done it so would be a beginner) or anything in open water as although I can swim well in a pool and im pretty confident I wouldn’t drown if I’d just gone for a swim, hurting yourself and being dumped into water seems much worse than hurting yourself and falling on to snow. Someone who was a competing kayaker would probably say ice skating was riskier.

You can’t control other people, in any activity, but you can control you. Get appropriate tuition, make sure you are fit enough before you embark on said activity, don’t drink and do things, don’t go outside your ability outside of controlled training with an instructor, keep your head on a swivel and be aware of your surroundings. Stop before you get tired. Don’t go out in really crap weather/visibility. Wear appropriate PPE (last resort!) This goes an awful long way to mitigating risks!

As a horse rider I would put it as more riskier than skiing as you are trying to control an animal that weighs more than half a tonne for average adult. Same animal is not a machine and has independent thoughts and feelings.
I’m nowhere near a professional but a middle aged horse owner/rider who loves the animal first and sport second. The worst that happened to me was a broken arm which was partly my fault, a friend had same injury tripping over a step.
Just last week a 24 year old professional Irish jockey died which is sad.

GoldHam · 26/02/2025 23:20

asrl78 · 25/02/2025 19:27

Cycling on the roads is actually very safe, the stats show it is about as risky as walking. If you are cycling in London, you can greatly reduce your risk of death/serious injury by not going up the inside of large vehicles at junctions, since that is how the majority of cyclists are killed in the capital. To put things into perspective, around 100 cyclists are killed every year but around 75,000 people die from coronary heart disease, and physical activity such as cycling helps to lower that risk.

Thanks for explaining basic road sense to a highly experienced cyclist 🙄…are you a man? The risks I encounter (roughly one per mile cycled) are not from HGVs who are mostly courteous and well trained where I ride; they are mainly from school run drivers and some commuters, plus the occasional works van. They pull out of side roads without looking, stop suddenly and pull into a parking space without indicating or slowing, throw open car doors without looking, and get annoyed at me for not cycling adjacent to said car doors so that they can squeeze past and squash me against parked cars. Shaving maybe 10 seconds off their journey, even though it’s clear I won’t be in their way for more than a few yards. Oh there is also a tendency to assume that a cyclist indicating to turn left should give way or be hit by, a car turning right into the same road. And yes, before you ask, I follow the highway code, give way where I should, wear hi-viz and run lights. (And also a camera, nowadays… the Met Police reporting portal is excellent 😉.). Give me skiing any day, nobody on a ski slope is throwing 2-ton metal boxes at me.

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