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So fed up of stories like this every single year. Stupid bloody Skiing.

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ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 23:00

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14427223/British-schoolboy-14-killed-skiing-accident-northern-Italy.html

This poor lad, only 14 years old, crashes headlong into a tree at speed and dies of chest injuries right in front of his parents.

What's so fucking great about skiing? Every year without fail there are stories like this and I'm sick of them. I know someone who became permanently disabled and slightly brain damaged after a skiing accident in his 20s.

As parents we don't encourage our kids to get into cars and drive them at speed round a race track with very little training every half term in February do we? We don't stick them on the backs of race horses and slap their arses and watch them go over hurdles. We don't encourage them to dive off high cliffs into the sea below and hope that they manage to miss the rocks as they land. So why do we continually let them hurl down mountainsides at god knows how many miles an hour, hoping that they manage not to collide with a tree or hit their heads on a rock?

I don't get it. I never will. However 'fun' it might be it can't possibly be worth the stupid level of risk.

OP posts:
Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 24/02/2025 07:15

Funnywonder · 24/02/2025 07:10

I don’t think this is a reasonable comparison. Obesity is a disease. Sports injuries are the result of accidents.

Obesity is often caused by making daily risky decisions about health that has far more deadly outcomes.

Obesity is its own extreme sport in many cases.

ProfessionalPirate · 24/02/2025 07:14

YRGAM · 24/02/2025 05:46

If it's worldwide, this statistic will include cross country skiing, which is regularly done by huge amounts of Scandinavians and Europeans and is no more dangerous than going for a jog.

The fatality rate for downhill skiing, which is the type of skiing posters in this thread are talking about, is enormously higher than that

Have you got a source for that? Because I had a quick search and it looks like that stat is indeed for downhill skiing. It’s even lower for snowboarding - less than 1 in 2 million snowboarding days.

1457bloom · 24/02/2025 07:14

Skiing is the best sport ever!

Thedownsideisup · 24/02/2025 07:13

Lots of fear mongering on this thread although I can understand it given the way the media sensationalises ski accident stories without putting the risks into any sort of context. But the flip side of that is some people are too blasé about skiing and don't put their children In ski schools or stick to the slopes appropriate for their level. Not saying that happened in this case but I've seen it plenty of times. Skiing is brilliant if done responsibly, like any activity that carries a level of risk.

I adore skiing amd it's the reason I exercise all year round - to be fit for my ski holidays. I've never been Injured but stick to intermediate slopes.

I have ski buddies from all walks of life - one is a carer, another is a retired teacher, another is a personal assistant. When I ski with them we go on the cheapest holidays we can find on Crystal Ski or else UCPA. They save for them all year and it doesn't have to be expensive compared to other types of holiday. And we always have a great time.

PlumBear · 24/02/2025 07:13

I’m not sure it really matters now experienced you are. When I was in secondary school, a boy two years older than me was on a skiing holiday with his family. He had a fairly minor fall but unfortunately landed on an area of quite thin snow with stone underneath. He died of his head injuries. He was 16. I can still remember his devastated parents and his sister, who was in my year. I agree with you, OP. It’s just not worth it.

Funnywonder · 24/02/2025 07:10

Franjipanl8r · 23/02/2025 23:37

Obesity is far more of a drain on the NHS than sports injuries in the UK. It’s inactivity rather than rare sporting injuries that’s more of an issue.

I don’t think this is a reasonable comparison. Obesity is a disease. Sports injuries are the result of accidents.

JennyElection · 24/02/2025 07:07

MsVi · 23/02/2025 23:39

Good idea. And people who drink alcohol, smoke, eat too much sugar and fat or drive a car, take a plane/train should do the same. Dont want to be a burden on the nhs.

i think your being sarcastic but It would certainly improve the health of the nation and would make people take personal responsibility for there lifestyle choices.

Pleaseeterausername · 24/02/2025 07:07

I agree, OP! Saw a social media post the other week (think it was Zissman or Clancey?), who posted their young daughter(s) skiing down (supposedly one of the most difficult slopes) and THANKING the instructor for ‘getting them down safety’ whilst clearly beaming with pride. The pride to boast came before the safety aspect, clearly. It baffled me.

Likewise with diving/snorkelling or people entering the deep seas in general, then us having to endure horror stories about people being killed by sharks. This is risk you take when entering their territory!

I am not prepared to encourage my kids to take these big risks in hope that the fun side will outride the dangers.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 24/02/2025 07:06

Icepop79 · 23/02/2025 23:36

As with everything, it depends how you do it. I’ve gone many many times and have never had anything worse than a bruised butt. I know my limits, take my time, stop when I’m getting tired. I’m vigilant around me and will take precautions if I see someone further up the slope who looks like they’re not in control. My kids have been taught the same and have never had an injury. We all always wear helmets. I never used to, but now it feels very strange not to - a bit like not having a seatbelt on in the car.

My husband did once do his knee in - he was showing off with his mates, ski-ing too fast. Completely his fault for being a knob.

I absolutely love it (can’t afford to go anymore and miss it badly). I love the alpine fresh air, the sun on your face, the sparkling snow. It’s not for everyone and I agree, there are risks. But there are risks with all sports - I came closer to dying in the sea in Devon than I ever had on a mountain.

Exactly, yes there are dangers involved in skiing but so are there with driving, getting out of bed etc. If you are sensible the risk is low, it’s just people like to tell these stories so the risk is overinflated.

Why so vehemently joyless @ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas ? You don’t like skiing, fine don’t go, but I suspect you’re not this frothing about, for example, yoga, squash, parkrun, learning to drive, gardening etc, all of you can get seriously hurt doing. I love skiing, it makes me happy and gets me out in the fresh air in the worst park of the dank, dark, British winter. I have been doing it for over 30 years and never seriously hurt myself, the only time I have been hurst is when I’ve been dicking around or pushing my boundaries in a way I knew was stupid, so my own fault or when someone else was being a prat- if we all take care and are sensible it’s really not that dangerous.

Porcuporpoise · 24/02/2025 07:06

50% of British kids are now overweight. Seems to me they could do with a little more sport (and a lot less stodge).

forthistimeonly · 24/02/2025 07:01

TBH I was more worried about my kids being mugged / stabbed than being injured skiing!
I know Jimmy Mizen's family. I'm sure they would rather Jimmy had been skiing than buying a cake when he was killed and 16.
And now his killer is out of prison and making songs about killing Jimmy.
I also know Rob Knox's family.
(Killed at 18 literally roads away from where I brought up my kids)
I wish Jimmy and Rob could go skiing.

InWalksBarberalla · 24/02/2025 07:00

ThymeScent · 24/02/2025 06:31

Where?
I love skiing and ski several times a year in large resorts in France (will have been five weeks this season n between Jan/April) and almost everyone does wear helmets -only people who don’t are the leathery old Parisians in their 70s.
I am in my 60s-never had any injury.
The newsworthy accidents are always boys or young me who are inherently the greatest risk takers in any context.

I said I barely see anyone without helmets - in agreement with you?
I've only skiied in Japan and Australia and pretty much everyone wears helmets. It's really only some holdouts in their 70s I see without them.

Hazeby · 24/02/2025 06:56

I don’t understand off piste. People are killed in avalanches and accidents every year and most of them seem to be when they’ve gone off piste. Just why would you do it??

ItShouldntHappenToMeYet · 24/02/2025 06:56

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 23:27

It's the way people wang on as if it's so bloody marvellous that gets me. It's dangerous and irresponsible and even if statistically you might not have a high chance of dying, I think you have a pretty high chance of getting hurt. I realise life is to be lived and it's not completely risk free. I just don't understand why so many people would actively choose to let their whole family do something that is so high risk. When it goes wrong it's not just a broken arm or ankle, it's brain damage.

OP, do you make such gross generalisations in all aspects of your life, and is this disdain for skiing down to jealousy? It's a shame you seem so taxed about something that doesn't affect you, nor are not forced to participate it.

Dayfurrrrit · 24/02/2025 06:55

My kids have skied since 2, DD also did baby bmx, we went and watched one tournament that was hosted by the bmx club. And that was the end of bmx for us. If you want to see a dangerous sport that’s the one to watch! Those kids are made of something else

NewNeolithic · 24/02/2025 06:54

If skiing is not your bag due to fear, fat or finances, then great.

All the more piste available for those of us who like to live a little, risks and all.

Heatherbell1978 · 24/02/2025 06:53

I've been skiing since I was a child and I'm far more worried about the bus journey from the airport these days. I'm taking my kids for the first time next year. Yes it can be dangerous due to people skiing out of their depths but no more so than an 18 year old make getting into a car and speeding to show off to his mates. And we experience that on the roads more than we experience bad skiers. It's an amazing holiday. I feel safer in the Alps than many places in the world quite frankly.

FreeSpiritPixie · 24/02/2025 06:52

I go skiing and never had more than a bruise or two - one pretty bad bruise but even that was gone in a week or so.
I also ride horses - used to compete, again nothing worse than bruises though I did have to get an x-Ray once after a fall - nothing broken in the end.
I also cycle - mountain biking I smashed my face once (with helmet but hit the ground cheek first), road cycling I have been injured by cars three times and one more time due to a fuel spillage on the road where bike went from underneath me in the middle of a junction.

I also hike and surf and run and swim outdoors and indoors, minor injuries whilst doing all those through the years.

It shouldn’t be, but cycling 20-30min on the road daily is the most dangerous activity from above (even though only about 5-10min of that is on an actual road, the rest on bike lanes) - I’m firmly of the opinion that you can get hit by a bus crossing the road and life is for living. My mum was very anxious about my activities growing up but it seems to have made me more determined to enjoy my life and not sit inside terrified most of the time.

TalkSomeSense1 · 24/02/2025 06:50

Nanny1983 · 23/02/2025 23:34

Maybe everyone who does extreme sports should be made to have proper insurance at all times so that our NHS isn’t picking up the costs if people want to go ahead and do these dangerous sports .
I know people go abroad and take out insurance but what about people who do the sports in the uk ?

Perhaps people should be made to have insurance to take the load of the NHS who eat fast food or smokes or drinks a lot or cycles or drives or uses a motorbike or rock climbs or does drugs or eats lots of UPF or is overweight or doesn’t exercise……

I bloody love skiing. And running. And cold water swimming. And cycling. Perhaps I ought to stay home wrapped in cotton wool though 🤔🤔

Sammysquiz · 24/02/2025 06:49

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For Christ's sake, a 14 year old boy has literally just died! How on earth can you think that’s an appropriate comment?

ThisGreatHazelKoala · 24/02/2025 06:46

Tabbsi · 23/02/2025 23:35

I am Scandinavian and we are taught to ski very young and it’s always been a part of life. I live in the UK now and find it so weird that British people love to ski, it’s not part of their landscape like in Scandinavian countries of parts of France or indeed elsewhere so it’s odd to me, it seems a sort of aspirational thing to do for British people I guess

What’s aspirational about enjoying clean, bright mountain air and enjoyable exercise? Why can’t brits enjoy this too? Is it too good for us?

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 24/02/2025 06:46

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I love skiing and have been since age 5. It’s common where I live.

Your statement is incorrect and cruel though.

Accidents happen and sometimes the person hurt was trying to avoid other out of control skiers.

This is a thread about a 14yo.

Please be respectful.

BobnLen · 24/02/2025 06:46

I'm not interested in skiing or other high risk sports, it's no different to a lot of more risky things that people enjoy though. DS went on a skiing school trip and enjoyed it, he also went skiing with his university friends but there is no way on earth you would get me on a pair of skis though but I wouldn't persuade others from doing it.

Yogre · 24/02/2025 06:42

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forthistimeonly · 24/02/2025 06:41

Agree @CautiousLurker01 both my kids went on skiing holidays with their state schools in Y6. I bought them second hand kit from eBay. I was more worried about the very long coach journey up the mountains, than them skiing.