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So fed up of stories like this every single year. Stupid bloody Skiing.

638 replies

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 23:00

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14427223/British-schoolboy-14-killed-skiing-accident-northern-Italy.html

This poor lad, only 14 years old, crashes headlong into a tree at speed and dies of chest injuries right in front of his parents.

What's so fucking great about skiing? Every year without fail there are stories like this and I'm sick of them. I know someone who became permanently disabled and slightly brain damaged after a skiing accident in his 20s.

As parents we don't encourage our kids to get into cars and drive them at speed round a race track with very little training every half term in February do we? We don't stick them on the backs of race horses and slap their arses and watch them go over hurdles. We don't encourage them to dive off high cliffs into the sea below and hope that they manage to miss the rocks as they land. So why do we continually let them hurl down mountainsides at god knows how many miles an hour, hoping that they manage not to collide with a tree or hit their heads on a rock?

I don't get it. I never will. However 'fun' it might be it can't possibly be worth the stupid level of risk.

OP posts:
Snoken · 24/02/2025 08:26

I think the risk of accidents are a little bit exaggerated here. I grew up in a house with ski-in/ski-out distance from a slope and have been skiing since I was 3, so for 46 years. I have had zero accidents that have had any lasting effect on my body. Sure I have fallen over and got bruises but I also got that from playing football and tennis. I come from a large family where everyone skiis and none of them have ever had any serious injuries, neither have anyone else I grew up with. On the contrary it has provided me with a fun way to stay fit, lots of fresh air and a rish social life.

GoingOverToTheDarkSide · 24/02/2025 08:24

Louisetheroux · 24/02/2025 01:34

This is a revealing mindset.

People who already have security in their life, the affluent types who can afford to go skiing etc, are very often risk seekers. They'll find it exhilarating.

People who worry about how they're going to put food on the table or heat their house are far more likely to be risk averse.

So you're right, risk is an inherent part of living, but that comes in very different forms.

Not sure I ageee with this. Plenty of people use adrenaline and endorphins to escape stress, it’s just that skiing is expensive.
There are also plenty of traditionally ‘working class’ sports, for want of a better description, taht come with an element of risk and definitely adrenaline.
Boxing probably the most obvious. Also Rugby, league or union depending on where you live, physical contact sports with a risk of head and spinal injury.
plenty of ‘non posh’ extreme sports too - skateboarding, bmx, motorcross etc that kids and teens take up.
but they don’t play into the Daily Mail narrative

Goldenbear · 24/02/2025 08:24

Funnywonder · 24/02/2025 08:21

Perhaps you haven’t read any information about the nature of obesity and the role of hunger and satiety hormones. But that’s ok. You’re far from alone.

So skiing is the answer is it, even when you don't live in a are the world that has any snow. Surely you can make others choices to stop ones self from becoming obese.

Lovelysummerdays · 24/02/2025 08:24

Funnywonder · 24/02/2025 07:10

I don’t think this is a reasonable comparison. Obesity is a disease. Sports injuries are the result of accidents.

I think obesity is largely self inflicted, obviously there are exceptions for genetic conditions and some medication causes weight gain but the vast majority of people are lardy because they eat too much and don’t burn it off.

0ohLarLar · 24/02/2025 08:23

Skiing injuries tend to be widely reported but statistically, serious injuries are quite rare.

There are also a huge number of serious injuries in sports like horseriding, from trampolines, gymnastics etc.

Life is, not, and will never be, risk free. It is always down to choice, some people would rather take a relatively small chance of injury and have an enjoyable life. There are also choices to be made that can minimise risk - wearing a chest protector and helmet, not skiing steep runs or off piste etc.

Washingupdone · 24/02/2025 08:22

Some people don’t obey the rules. I was with friends and their 45 year old son came back from a skiing trip saying how good it was off piste. They were oohing and ahhing in admiration. I was horrified but didn’t say anything as it wouldn’t be welcome. Don’t people realize that through their selfishness, the new snow could be unstable and cause danger to other innocent skiers below.

Skiers, who think they are good, go too fast on learners slopes or go down slopes that are too difficult for their abilities, endangering others.

Children’s parents want their DC to go home with the next starred badge and are encouraged to go faster.

Well I suppose it’s their week’s holiday in the snow and it is a good business for the villages. Doctors go there to work during the holiday period to earn their salaries.

SanctusInDistress · 24/02/2025 08:22

It’s a bit like rugby at school. I don’t get why contact rugby is played at many private schools, and in some schools it is obligatory. Luckily evidence is starting to emerge about how serious it is.

Funnywonder · 24/02/2025 08:21

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 24/02/2025 07:15

Obesity is often caused by making daily risky decisions about health that has far more deadly outcomes.

Obesity is its own extreme sport in many cases.

Perhaps you haven’t read any information about the nature of obesity and the role of hunger and satiety hormones. But that’s ok. You’re far from alone.

Goldenbear · 24/02/2025 08:20

Kitte321 · 24/02/2025 08:18

Honestly, what a ridiculous point. I really doubt the NHS is in the mess it’s in because of dealing with skiing injuries

Surely, the number of people who going skiing have some bearing on that.

ToutesetBonne · 24/02/2025 08:19

My daughter (now very much a grown-up!) wanted to learn to horse ride when a child - it was the one thing I said no to, due to the very high numbers of serious accidents.

Friends have just come back from a skiing holiday with their three young children. One child now has a leg in a full cast and the wife is in a neck brace.

Of course everything has risk attached, but that doesn't mean we have to deliberately seek out risky activities that are by no means essential!

Nottodaythankyou123 · 24/02/2025 08:18

username2373 · 23/02/2025 23:43

Oh dear! I was hoping we can go skiing next year with dc but this mumsnet thread is putting me off. I've never realised there's a high risk of serious injury and I know many people who ski each year.

I grew up in a colder country where some children would ski to school. I was bad at skating and never tried skiing but to me it's not an extreme sport...

Is it possible that people who haven't grown in a place where it snows often are a bit too brave as they'd only do it once every few years/ only for a week?

We went skiing three times a year as a family of 5 from when I was 4 - 21, and then every now and again since. In all those trips we had a broken wrist and a dislocated shoulder. I hurt myself worse falling off a climbing frame across the road from my house 🤷🏼‍♀️

There’s risk in everything you do, it’s just being aware of the risks and taking precautions.

Kitte321 · 24/02/2025 08:18

TheWombatleague · 24/02/2025 00:05

I take your point, but most of that group already pay extra in taxes.

Honestly, what a ridiculous point. I really doubt the NHS is in the mess it’s in because of dealing with skiing injuries

Goldenbear · 24/02/2025 08:17

Sapienza · 24/02/2025 08:14

Statistically, mental health issues are far more common than skiing accidents.

There are dangers in sitting at home angry from reading the Daily Mail.

Edited

Again, logical invalidity at play. Not going skiing does not result in your child being an angry Daily Mail reader.

Goldenbear · 24/02/2025 08:14

It is fine to assert that it benefits your child who enjoys the sport but it does not follow that thrill seeking is only achieved from skiing. Equally, it does not follow that if not skiing the child is sat in front of a screen, is obese and has low life expectancy.

Sapienza · 24/02/2025 08:14

Statistically, mental health issues are far more common than skiing accidents.

There are dangers in sitting at home angry from reading the Daily Mail.

Needspaceforlego · 24/02/2025 08:14

I know a few people have replied to you.
The vast majority of skiers and borders wear helmets. The change happened about 15 years ago more and more people were wearing them, lessons learned after the Natasha Richardson and Micheal Schumacher accidents.

They are a legal requirement for under 15s in Austria.
Nearly all ski schools insist on them too.
Our local dry slope has started to insist on helmets for lessons too.

I'll 100% agree with you for ice-skating why are people skating without helmets? Especially figure skaters doing crazy jumps with zero protection. I don't watch much roller skating but it seems to be more receptive to protection than what ice skating is.
I do note ice hockey players are padded up to the max, probably protection from the puk but figure skaters are in the flimsiest of outfits.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 24/02/2025 08:13

OP you realise that that case made the papers because it's such a rare occurrence right?

Goldenbear · 24/02/2025 08:12

travellinglighter · 24/02/2025 08:08

What are your thoughts on

rugby
horse riding
hockey
football
cycling
crossing the street
riding in a car
golf
cricket
netball
running
etc

and pretty much everything that humans do for fun. You can sit them at home in front of an IPad if you want and it won’t kill them immediately but the inactivity will shorten their lives, damage their mental health and possibly bring them into contact with individuals who will kill them.

Again, what are the statistics on child death in sports? Why would they automatically shorten their life from playing an instrument? Or taking photographs of painting or reading?

Goldenbear · 24/02/2025 08:10

Saveusernsme · 24/02/2025 08:04

Risk is an inherent part of all our lives. We have to find enjoyment in it, navigate our way through all the chaos or else we’ll just sit there not leaving our homes.

All my DC adore high risk sports including skiing. I very much don’t but I can’t stop them. All I can do it make sure they are as safe as possible and are aware of the risks.

What’s more scary than being outside, doing something physical is our children stuck inside on phones and social media. That’s utterly terrifying.

My children aren't stuck inside, they are thin, do partake in activities that are physical but they aren't as risky as skiing. They also find fulfillment in non sport activities, play instruments for example. I don't know why not horse riding or skiing would mean you are obese or stuck on a phone.

ssd · 24/02/2025 08:09

Actually you are right op. I've never been skiing, neither have my kids. Its always been the cost that put me off. But the danger is much worse.
Didn't Liam Neeson loose his wife in a skiing accident?

travellinglighter · 24/02/2025 08:08

What are your thoughts on

rugby
horse riding
hockey
football
cycling
crossing the street
riding in a car
golf
cricket
netball
running
etc

and pretty much everything that humans do for fun. You can sit them at home in front of an IPad if you want and it won’t kill them immediately but the inactivity will shorten their lives, damage their mental health and possibly bring them into contact with individuals who will kill them.

longestlurkerever · 24/02/2025 08:04

I have never been skiing, mainly due to fear of injury, but I can see why people do. To be honest I think our kids ' mental health crisis is their biggest risk and some people just need that adrenaline rush in the outdoors to feel alive I think.

Saveusernsme · 24/02/2025 08:04

Risk is an inherent part of all our lives. We have to find enjoyment in it, navigate our way through all the chaos or else we’ll just sit there not leaving our homes.

All my DC adore high risk sports including skiing. I very much don’t but I can’t stop them. All I can do it make sure they are as safe as possible and are aware of the risks.

What’s more scary than being outside, doing something physical is our children stuck inside on phones and social media. That’s utterly terrifying.

cakeorwine · 24/02/2025 08:04

What level of risk of death would be acceptable to people?

Or the level of risk of serious injury?

People do many things that have a level of risk of death that would be unacceptable to some but would be fine to others, given the enjoyment the activity brings.

ProfessionalPirate · 24/02/2025 08:02

pearbottomjeans · 24/02/2025 07:39

Skiing is for people who don’t have enough risk in their daily lives.

(Obviously not talking about people who ski daily and are actually good at it! The risk then is obviously low. A week a year isn’t the same thing)

I can’t imagine sending my kids off sliding down a mountain. A very irresponsible risk indeed.

Edited

Nonsense. It’s no different however regularly you ski - you keep to slopes that are appropriate for your experience level and mitigate risks by wearing a helmet.

I’d argue that a daily skier going at very high speed on dangerous runs is a much higher risk than the yearly skier pootling slowly down the beginner slopes.

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