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AITA for refusing to have a relationship with the man who made my childhood hell?

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Surelyitisntjustme · 23/02/2025 16:39

Please read to the end as I feel context is necessary here.

My mum recently stopped speaking to me and my sister, after sending us both a message saying "would it have KILLED you both to wish your stepdad a happy birthday? I am very pissed off with you both and so disappointed". My sister made some remarks about it not being at the top of her priority list and I basically said "you asked me to be civil with him many years ago which I have been, but I won't pretend to have a relationship with him and I'm annoyed that you expect that I would". She then replied with "I give up", left the group chat she has had with us both for years and a week later still has not spoken to either of us since. She's currently away on a 3 month holiday with her husband and due to return soon and we don't know what to expect, if she intends on discussing this any further or not speaking to us at all (my sister is getting married this year and she's supposed to be giving her away).

CONTEXT

My sister and I have never had a good relationship with the man. My other family members don't like him much and they don't even know half of the real reasons we don't like him.

These reasons range from things such as telling us as kids that our real dad didn't care about us (not true) after we all moved overseas for this man's job and left behind the rest of the family and life we'd always known. He would buy branded foods for him and my mum, keeping them in a special "adults cupboard" that we weren't allowed in, leaving the more basic/cheaper things for us.

I was a bit of a rebel as a teenager (nothing outrageous) but a punishment for sneaking out to meet friends was for him to board my bedroom windows shut, remove the door from its hinges, give me one single outfit, a "uniform" to wear for a month, ground me, make me sweep dirt in the garden, remove all of my cosmetics, appliances etc.

When I got my first job, there was a really bad storm and no public transport where we live, so my mum asked him to give me a lift (5 mins drive, I would usually walk it). He refused to let me out of the car until I paid him £20 as he said that's what a taxi would have cost.

All of the above may sound simply like strict parenting and nothing too outrageous to some. But it goes on....

When I was grounded and no door on my bedroom, at 14 year old I once woke to him sitting on the end of my bed in the middle of the night. When I opened my eyes he RAN out of the room. I felt physically sick and scared of what his intentions were as I woke up thinking someone was touching me. It was only a few days after he removed my bedroom door. When I finally got the courage to tell my mum about this (after spending weeks sleeping fully clothed after it happened) she just said she would talk to him. The result was I was allowed to move into the annexe outside, despite asking many times before if I could and being told no. My mum then said she spoke to him and he said he was "chasing the cat out of my room"....a room without a door that a cat would just wander back into anyway. There was no attempt made from him to discuss this with me, no conversation ever took place after until I raised it with my mum again years later as an adult.

I'm addition to this, not long before this incident happened, we had a cleaner. She left our house, telling my mum she was scared for her daughter's because she found a camera in the bathroom. This was laughed off by my mum and stepdad and became a running family joke that the "crazy maid" obviously must have thought the black shampoo bottle top looked like a camera.

But then years later, when I was an adult and had finally moved away, my sister tells me she finds her video camera that had gone missing, in their room. She looks on it and there are video clips where he filmed the neighbour through her window getting undressed. It was a series of clips over a few months. It was him filming because his voice can be heard. When my sister told my mum she was devastated and drove with my sister a number of hours to come and stay with me. We thought this was the realisation she needed, but she ended up getting back with him less than 2 weeks later and my sister and I have kept this incident secret from the rest of our family for my mum's sake, which seems ridiculous now.

That being said all of this happened around 10 years ago. There have been arguments over the years, none for a long time, but they have always resulted in us basically saying we will never like him, her playing the victim (which she is in many ways) and us feeling guilty and having to keep the peace. He has spent Christmases with us, I have had him in my home, cooked meals for him etc much to my displeasure.

I had my first child 2 years ago and went through counselling because I refuse to let these feelings be something that affects him one day. Part of that has made me realise it isn't my job to protect my mum's feelings at my own expense, so I am trying to not fall into the same trap again. She constantly refers to her husband as my child's grandad, which I hate, but I haven't said anything about it yet. I am very very close to my grandparents and I don't feel he comes even close to deserving this title.

I've never really spoken to other people about this and I'm keen to hear outsider views. Was I unreasonable to not wish him happy birthday via text when they are away on the other side of the world, considering I wouldn't usually contact him on his birthday anyway? Is it unreasonable of me to let her stay silent and not reach out to try and resolve this? How would you approach this when she returns if either she a) confronts is and wants to continue the debate or b) acts like it never happened?

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PullTheBricksDown · 23/02/2025 19:15

I'd be done with your mum now. She's picked a side. How about one of your grandparents - or, you, her sister, gives her away instead at her wedding?

Mumtobabyhavoc · 23/02/2025 19:13

Oh. My. God. Your SD is sick. It was abuse.
For the sake of your mental health tell your mum everything. Put it in a letter. Please get counselling as well.

ETA
I'd also report everything to police.

rainbowsparkle28 · 23/02/2025 19:11

I tell you what, I would be doing a lot more unreasonable than what you are in such circumstances! 😳 I would be sending my mother a message - not that you even owe her that - to say I didn’t wish him a happy birthday because he is an abusive POS and you were aware and continue to prioritise your relationship with him over your child(ren), failed to protect them, and I am not doing it anymore and don’t want anything more to do with either of you. And block. They have made their beds and by the sounds of it to say they had their fair amount of chances is woefully understating it. You do not have to put up with this and can choose to protect your own peace and happiness. You are an adult now and you make the rules not them.

RedHelenB · 23/02/2025 19:08

Your mum let you down Why do you want to accept coming second to this lowlife?

Hollyjollywafflecone · 23/02/2025 19:01

YANBU but your mum allowed you to be treated this way so I don’t think all the blame lies with him.

Irridescantshimmmer · 23/02/2025 18:58

YANBU

I sympathise with you and the reasons you feel the way you do regarding the horrendous conduct of your mothers partner.

He took the door off your bedroom to molest you in your sleep when you were 14 and needed your own space. He's a tyrannical, cruel, malicious child abuser.

If your child is a girl fgs don't take your eyes off them because he's a danger to girls and women.

Your mother failed to protect you and your sister, she failed in her duty of care and she should be totally ashamed of her self. If she is not careful, she will die a sad, and lonely old woman due to her cantankerous attitude, no matter what, family must always come first so she has to live with her decisions but you can free yourself from it by refusing to see him or communicate with him again.

How you do that is up to you.

Hope this helps.

Carouselfish · 23/02/2025 18:58

Your mum is married to an abusive sexual predator.
You would be unreasonable to ever have him around your child or in your house.
Fuck his birthday.
Your mum has stuck her head in the sand your whole childhood. If you still want a relationship with her, when she won't admit how at fault he is, then it has to be completely separate from him.

Oh and I'd tell the wider family why you can no longer tolerate him.

Helen1625 · 23/02/2025 18:56

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 23/02/2025 18:39

It's not though. Your child is learning that he knows this person, that he can trust this person.

I wouldn't be letting my child have any contact with this man, even if it meant cutting contact with your mother too.

You make a very good point

Dontbeme · 23/02/2025 18:52

Honestly the only birthday gift this guy would be getting from me is a report to the cops of historic abuse and telling them about his filming of women in vulnerable situations. This man is a predator and your mother turns a blind eye, so no more video calls, no more phone calls, no supervised visits with either of them. Your mother is steamrolling over you and your sister all so she can continue to turn a blind eye to the abusive predator she wants in her life, she has now started the same colluding bull with your child by trying to get them to call this predator "granddad". It needs to stop today, cut them both out of your life and protect yourself and your child.

Sportacus17 · 23/02/2025 18:45

Op, many of the things you have said completely echo my own experiences with an abusive, weirdo bully of a step dad. My mother did nothing to intervene or protect my siblings and I. They are still married and she is still brainwashed and he is still a psychopath. I’ve not seen or spoken to either of them in years. I have two young daughters and things are so so so much better this way. You owe this man and your mother nothing. She is lucky you bother with her at all. DO NOT APOLOGISE. Ignore her.

Edcc · 23/02/2025 18:44

Your mother is disgusting.

Definitely tell wider family about the abuse you suffered and about his completely inappropriate behaviour and the camera recordings.

Contact 101 and see what they say.
It won't come to anything, but you could make a statement and they could call on him in his home and fxxk up his life with the neighbours wondering.
Can you tell an old neighbour that you have made a statement.

Believe me that can act as some salve.
Pricks like him live in fear of the truth outing.

Don't doubt yourself.
Your mother is as bad as him.

Does your sister really want the pair of them at her special day?

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 23/02/2025 18:39

Surelyitisntjustme · 23/02/2025 18:04

That is 100% what I am doing, my child comes before everything and anyone and I think this latest episode will be the turning point needed, just not sure how it will play out.

It's not though. Your child is learning that he knows this person, that he can trust this person.

I wouldn't be letting my child have any contact with this man, even if it meant cutting contact with your mother too.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 23/02/2025 18:37

IF you ever have more video calls or your DC sees him say, 'There's Dave!' or whatever the git is called Do not let her bulldoze you into calling him grandad. Correct her EVERY time

Gymnopedie · 23/02/2025 18:34

But video calls to them with her telling my child "oh look here's grandad!" absolutely fill me with rage.
When I went through counselling the advice I got was to let it go for now as my son was too young to understand and I can raise him to call him whatever I want. But he does understand now and has started repeating "grandad".

No more video calls. Your mum and her H don't deserve to have you in their lives, regardless of what they want call themselves.

JimJonesLivesInMyHead · 23/02/2025 18:33

You have an abusive stepfather and an enabling mother.

You owe them precisely nothing.

Cut them out of your life and concentrate on building a safe happy home with your little one.

I'm so sorry OP, you didn't deserve this. I wish you well.

Elsvieta · 23/02/2025 18:30

Do you want to continue having a relationship with her? Because the silent treatment thing can work both ways. When she tries to get in touch again, you don't have to let her in / take the call / whatever. Do you think you'd be happier that way?

Other options: text her back and tell her that you're very disappointed and pissed off that she's picked an abusive sex offender over her kids. Or you could put everything you've told us into a letter / email and ask her to explain why she's chosen him over you. Or tell her she needs to choose now, and if she picks him you're not interested in seeing her again. Personally I'd put it in an email and copy it to the entire family (with emphasis on the filming of the neighbour and the creepy incident in your bedroom). And tell her I don't let my dc breathe the same air as sex offenders.

Don't worry about what she thinks, or anyone else in the family - just do what you think will make you and your dc safest and happiest.

NorthernGnashers · 23/02/2025 18:26

@StrawberryDream24

What this poster said, 100%.

Cerialkiller · 23/02/2025 18:25

StrawberryDream24 · 23/02/2025 17:49

my sister and I have kept this incident secret from the rest of our family for my mum's sake, which seems ridiculous now.

I'd tell them.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

They don't even know this and they dislike him so it sounds like they may well believe it.

You'll probably be cut out of the will though lol.

This. Why keep his shameful secret. Why keep your mum's shameful secret. It isn't your shame. Why are you protecting them?

Surelyitisntjustme · 23/02/2025 18:23

StrawberryDream24 · 23/02/2025 18:17

Sorry I meant about the video recordings of the neighbour. And the previous incident of the camera the maid left due to (and subsequent gas lighting about her).

That's true, one way of them knowing more of the truth without them feeling any guilt towards us. Something worth considering if things get too ugly.

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StrawberryDream24 · 23/02/2025 18:17

Surelyitisntjustme · 23/02/2025 18:10

I've often thought this. But if I'm honest, my grandparents (mums side) are in their 80s. We are so close, they feel more like parents to me than my parents. I feel if they knew everything we went through it would devastate them, so I haven't told them as a way of protecting their feelings more than my mum's. They have stuck up for us and fallen out with my mum in the past over his treatment of us when it was just the odd raised voice they witnessed. So they would never have stood for any of it and I wouldn't want them to blame themselves for not stepping in to help when we were living in a foreign country and they had no way of knowing.

Sorry I meant about the video recordings of the neighbour. And the previous incident of the camera the maid left due to (and subsequent gas lighting about her).

Maxorias · 23/02/2025 18:17

Dear lord. I have three children, if any of them told me anything like this it would be the end of my relationship with my partner. I'm sorry your mom didn't do what she should have.

OP I wouldn't reach out to her. If she never calls you, well, so be it. If she does I'd tell her I never want anything to do with her husband ever again, she can see you on her own, or not at all.

I know it's hard. When I went lc with my own mother I cried for a week straight. It felt like a bereavement. But after those first days I felt infinitely better, and now that contact is picking up again I feel better able to call her out on the unacceptable things.

Surelyitisntjustme · 23/02/2025 18:15

StrawberryDream24 · 23/02/2025 17:49

my sister and I have kept this incident secret from the rest of our family for my mum's sake, which seems ridiculous now.

I'd tell them.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

They don't even know this and they dislike him so it sounds like they may well believe it.

You'll probably be cut out of the will though lol.

Should have mentioned that one thing this kind of upbringing taught me was to be incredibly self sufficient, so I honestly couldn't give a shit if I'm in her will or not anyway 🤣

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Surelyitisntjustme · 23/02/2025 18:10

StrawberryDream24 · 23/02/2025 17:49

my sister and I have kept this incident secret from the rest of our family for my mum's sake, which seems ridiculous now.

I'd tell them.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

They don't even know this and they dislike him so it sounds like they may well believe it.

You'll probably be cut out of the will though lol.

I've often thought this. But if I'm honest, my grandparents (mums side) are in their 80s. We are so close, they feel more like parents to me than my parents. I feel if they knew everything we went through it would devastate them, so I haven't told them as a way of protecting their feelings more than my mum's. They have stuck up for us and fallen out with my mum in the past over his treatment of us when it was just the odd raised voice they witnessed. So they would never have stood for any of it and I wouldn't want them to blame themselves for not stepping in to help when we were living in a foreign country and they had no way of knowing.

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theallotmentqueen · 23/02/2025 18:05

It's so horrible that your mother was complicit in your abuse from this awful man. Honestly, I really suggest going low or no contact in this case, as she clearly has no remorse for her vile actions. She literally continued to stay with the man who tried to sexually abuse you - there's no coming back from that. I'm so sorry about this.

Surelyitisntjustme · 23/02/2025 18:04

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 23/02/2025 17:52

Keep this man away from your child. If your mum can't cope with that, that's your mum's choice. But you're a mum now and you need to put your child first. Do what your mum should have done for you.

That is 100% what I am doing, my child comes before everything and anyone and I think this latest episode will be the turning point needed, just not sure how it will play out.

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