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stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 05:17

So a bit of background. My SD19 lives with her mother and step dad about an hour away from us. She has always lived there, attended school there and has chosen to attend university there. During her last year of school she met her boyfriend who lives a further 2 hours away and they have maintained a relationship by seeing each other every few weekends and on her university holidays.

We live in the southern hemisphere for reference, and she has just returned home to start the new university year after pretty much spending 3 months with her boyfriend who lives with his family.

I have view of our private medical care transactions and have seen that she has gone to see a GP and has been prescribed urbanol and Lorien.

My husband has asked her what it’s about and her response has been that she has found the ‘change of life hard and being away from bf’ and needs something to help her cope. ‘It has been hard not being able to walk on the beach with her friends everyday’ and ‘finding a lift to university whilst her car is broken has been stressful’. Ps she damaged her car whilst driving to see him.

For some reason I am just completely uncomfortable with this whole thing. I feel that the taking of anti depressants and anxiety meds for her given reasons is just so casual.

There is not much I can do besides talk to her and express our concerns which my husband has already done. But perhaps my concerns are not valid. I feel that she somehow has this notion that you can medicate away normal life emotions but she says she gets a rash on her face and chest from the anxiety and so it’s needed.

AIBU?

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RabbitProofCarrots · 23/02/2025 17:46

I honestly think it’s pretty likely she’s not telling you something. Or that she’s not coping at the moment but doesn’t really understand why. It’s a diagnostic criteria for depression and anxiety actually - that your reactions to life events go beyond proportional sadness or worry into something pathological. The person sufffering might also be attributing their feelings to some events/ difficulties while ignoring or denying the impact of others. So your stepdaughter might actually be super stressed out by her university course, but currently attributing that stress to her car problems. Or maybe something happened that she doesn’t want to talk about - like she was assaulted or harassed by a guy at university, and she only feels safe around her boyfriend at the moment, so she’s finding it hard to cope without him around to a point that would look weird if you don’t know the rest of the story.
Obviously I’m speculating, but I’m just trying to show you how easy it would be for you to be jumping to completely the wrong conclusions about her emotional state because you’re assuming she’s telling you the whole truth. My experience of being 19 was that many of us did not share everything with our parents at that age. It’s not a reflection on your relationship with your young adult child or on your parenting. It’s a normal part of growing up and being independent for many young people.
Don’t tell her you think she doesn’t need medication or that she’s obviously not ill enough for medication. Do tell her that doctor in other countries follow up those medications with weekly appointments and counseling and you’d like to give her that care too. Either she’ll decide on her own that she doesn’t need the meds and the fuss of that many appointments to deal with her emotions or she’ll be getting safe and hopefully effective care. Don’t ask her why she’s taking these medicines. She’ll tell you the truth or some of it if and when she wants your advice or sympathy.

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 17:45

She absolutely is my child and she would say the same.

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stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 17:44

Blushingm · 23/02/2025 17:42

She's not your child though! She didn't even live with you! And you have never actually even spoken to her own mother.

And yes - so what - she admitted faking an eye test a year ago - slightly different from being mature enough to go and see a dr because she's struggling

Yoh.

I’ve been warned about the anti-resident SM brigade here on MN. Only bio mothers with golden vaginas are allowed to care about the children they raise.

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Blushingm · 23/02/2025 17:42

She's not your child though! She didn't even live with you! And you have never actually even spoken to her own mother.

And yes - so what - she admitted faking an eye test a year ago - slightly different from being mature enough to go and see a dr because she's struggling

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 17:35

Blushingm · 23/02/2025 17:30

You don't know she would have told you - she only seems to have told you when you quizzed her. She may have - in her own time - but you, by invading her privacy have forced her to do so

'Youthful naivety' implies you think she's being a silly girl and all these things are so minor they shouldn't be affecting her mental health and that you know best

You don't seem to accept that you may be wrong - you're right and that's that

you seem to have a hard time accepting that I know my child. This is the same young girl who admitted earlier this year around a dinner table that she tried to fake an eye test because she really wanted to wear glasses. In her silliness it didn’t occur to her that she could just buy nonprescription glasses and instead has walked around for months wearing glasses with a minor prescription she doesn’t need.

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Blushingm · 23/02/2025 17:30

You don't know she would have told you - she only seems to have told you when you quizzed her. She may have - in her own time - but you, by invading her privacy have forced her to do so

'Youthful naivety' implies you think she's being a silly girl and all these things are so minor they shouldn't be affecting her mental health and that you know best

You don't seem to accept that you may be wrong - you're right and that's that

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 17:18

Blushingm · 23/02/2025 17:11

Would I discuss this with her mother? Absolutely not. That is an invasion of her privacy.

But you quizzing her about medication she had been prescribed (and not told you about previously)) and implying her mental health problems are so minor you don't think she needs medication is not an invasion of her privacy?

And you've not spoken to her mother? In 17 years? Then how can you comment on her relationship with her daughter, who lives with her

I can comment on her relationship with her mother because I am close enough to her that she does talk to me about it.
I think this is what people are misunderstanding here. I have not stumbled across information that would have been kept from me. She would have volunteered the information to us in a discussion at some point. We have a close enough relationship for that to happen.

I however am concerned about her youthful naivety about her reasons for taking the medication. She believes that what she has done will help her cope with the adjustment to not seeing her boyfriend every day and not being able to take walks on the beach with her friends. Things she enjoyed doing but now cannot do because her holiday is over.

what about this is so hard for people to understand?

she would willingly give us access to her medical information.

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Blushingm · 23/02/2025 17:11

Would I discuss this with her mother? Absolutely not. That is an invasion of her privacy.

But you quizzing her about medication she had been prescribed (and not told you about previously)) and implying her mental health problems are so minor you don't think she needs medication is not an invasion of her privacy?

And you've not spoken to her mother? In 17 years? Then how can you comment on her relationship with her daughter, who lives with her

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:57

Bakedpotatoes · 23/02/2025 16:52

Well, have you spent time with her? How was she? What has her mother said?

I would be worried about abuse but have you discussed this with her? How much time did you and her dad spend with her growing up - have you taught her about red flags in relationships? The importance of feelings, how to recognise the negative ones and what to do when you feel bad?

Yes we have spent time with her.
We have spent a lot of time with her growing up in shared custody arrangement with her mother despite the distance apart we live.
Yes we have discussed red flags in relationships.
What does her mother say? The woman hasn’t spoken to me in the 17 years I have known my SD. We don’t have a relationship like that. What has her mother said to her? I’m not sure, she isn’t very present from what I can gather. Does her mother even know what I know? Probably not.
Would I discuss this with her mother? Absolutely not. That is an invasion of her privacy. She knows we are privy to certain elements of her healthcare, we always have been and she has taken charge of that in recent years as this used to go between my husband and her mother before.

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Bakedpotatoes · 23/02/2025 16:52

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:46

Really?
Firstly, what makes you think that just because she lives an hour away or three hours away we haven’t spent any time with her?
Secondly, I find it incredibly strange that parents here would be ok with their young adult child coming back from a 3 month stay at the boyfriends house with mental health issues that they have never displayed before. Does this not wave any red flags to you?

I wonder how many abused women have been ignored for the very same reasons because we shouldn’t get involved in other people’s business! Good god. The UK is a strange place.

Well, have you spent time with her? How was she? What has her mother said?

I would be worried about abuse but have you discussed this with her? How much time did you and her dad spend with her growing up - have you taught her about red flags in relationships? The importance of feelings, how to recognise the negative ones and what to do when you feel bad?

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:46

Blushingm · 23/02/2025 16:41

Exactly this!

She's not living with you, she lives an hour away and has been even further away for the last 3 months. You are not involved in her day to day life, whether you think her problems are minor or not - you don't get to make any choice regarding her medication, whether she takes it, whether it's appropriate - none of this is under your control and nor should it be. She's a 19 year old woman who is entitled to privacy and to have her choices respected

You don't seem to have any respect for her

Really?
Firstly, what makes you think that just because she lives an hour away or three hours away we haven’t spent any time with her?
Secondly, I find it incredibly strange that parents here would be ok with their young adult child coming back from a 3 month stay at the boyfriends house with mental health issues that they have never displayed before. Does this not wave any red flags to you?

I wonder how many abused women have been ignored for the very same reasons because we shouldn’t get involved in other people’s business! Good god. The UK is a strange place.

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Blushingm · 23/02/2025 16:41

Bakedpotatoes · 23/02/2025 16:26

With all due respect OP, you are her step mother, not her parent, she doesn't live with you and lives an hour away by your own admission. She has been living with her boyfriend for the last 3 months and now is back at her mothers house - how well can you know her current situation? Have you spoken to her mother? What are her thoughts considering she lives with her?

As per previous post, I can understand your concern but she is an adult with bodily autonomy.

Exactly this!

She's not living with you, she lives an hour away and has been even further away for the last 3 months. You are not involved in her day to day life, whether you think her problems are minor or not - you don't get to make any choice regarding her medication, whether she takes it, whether it's appropriate - none of this is under your control and nor should it be. She's a 19 year old woman who is entitled to privacy and to have her choices respected

You don't seem to have any respect for her

Ramblingaway · 23/02/2025 16:32

I don't know if you can, but I think it would help if when you talk yo your SD you actually chat to her about different countries approaches to mental health, counselling and medication. It might help her to think about alternatives, whether that be exercise, counselling or at least switching the benzo to something like a beta blocker. I often find it useful to think about problems from the point of view of a different country or period in time. I think the humanities academics out there would call this looking at things through a different lense. My degree was in science, so I wasn't taught it all, and my parents are very black and white thinkers. I only learned this skill through counselling but I'm trying to install it in my daughter now. Hopefully this might take any conflict out of your discussions.

OhSoSharkie · 23/02/2025 16:30

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:26

For gods sake lady. I am not telling her to not seek support and to ignore her problem.
I would simply like to make sure that her problems are being explored by the right person for the right reasons. I do not think that is overbearing. Now please just go and comment on someone else’s problem.

I too have done a deep dive into your MN history and it appears that you are relatively new or have done a name change (probably) and have picked up my post to troll as your fun for the day.

Woah. Now I am a TROLL.

Sigh, you still don't get it "I would simply like to make sure that her problems are being explored by the right person for the right reasons." - this isn't a decision you get to make unless she wants to involve you.

It is her decision to make, without you interfering on your (narrow) views on what is acceptable in this circumstance, circumstances where you've already claimed she is wrong, it is wrong, all the stigma etc...

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:29

OhSoSharkie · 23/02/2025 16:23

And yes - in your country the law is that 12 years olds can make medical decisions if they are deemed to have capacity, so your 19 year old definitely can make this decision without needing to confer with you, or have you dictating to her how she isn't unwell and how she doesn't need treatment.

My country also thinks that pit latrine toilets are safe enough for school sanitation despite the number of children who die by falling into their own shit every year. Please go away.

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Bakedpotatoes · 23/02/2025 16:26

With all due respect OP, you are her step mother, not her parent, she doesn't live with you and lives an hour away by your own admission. She has been living with her boyfriend for the last 3 months and now is back at her mothers house - how well can you know her current situation? Have you spoken to her mother? What are her thoughts considering she lives with her?

As per previous post, I can understand your concern but she is an adult with bodily autonomy.

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:26

OhSoSharkie · 23/02/2025 16:15

Not taking medication is also a risk for suicide, as is not seeking mental health support that is person led.

That doesn't fit in with your black and white anti medication / anti psychiatric views though so you will just insult anyone who raises those points.

For gods sake lady. I am not telling her to not seek support and to ignore her problem.
I would simply like to make sure that her problems are being explored by the right person for the right reasons. I do not think that is overbearing. Now please just go and comment on someone else’s problem.

I too have done a deep dive into your MN history and it appears that you are relatively new or have done a name change (probably) and have picked up my post to troll as your fun for the day.

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OhSoSharkie · 23/02/2025 16:23

And yes - in your country the law is that 12 years olds can make medical decisions if they are deemed to have capacity, so your 19 year old definitely can make this decision without needing to confer with you, or have you dictating to her how she isn't unwell and how she doesn't need treatment.

AgnesX · 23/02/2025 16:15

For what's its worth I don't think you're unreasonable about being worried at all. It shows you care.

She's aware that you know that she's taking these meds so can you make sure she's aware of the side effects etc. Are you also able to have a conversation about therapy (concurrently preferably) rather than just using meds long term.

Just btw it's Sunday here. Never a good day to look for sense or kindness on MN. You're damned regardless of what you do.

OhSoSharkie · 23/02/2025 16:15

Not taking medication is also a risk for suicide, as is not seeking mental health support that is person led.

That doesn't fit in with your black and white anti medication / anti psychiatric views though so you will just insult anyone who raises those points.

OhSoSharkie · 23/02/2025 16:14

I have a lot of experience with a lot of other people's lived experience too - you have no idea about what I do or do not know or what I have and haven't lived through.

You come across as over bearing and over controlling - you can step parent without being controlling, you can let your ADULT step children make decisions guided by medical professionals without all the stigma you've thrown out in this thread regarding your SD (and you know, previous comments on your SS).

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:12

Blushingm · 23/02/2025 16:07

You talk about people committing suicide - well my brother did just that - he didn't seek help as was afraid of what people/family/work would think - your step daughter has sought help, from a doctor not from you - you have made it clear you don't feel her 'problems' are that bad and that you (not a doctor or healthcare professionals) have made it clear she's being silly. You now think she can talk to you?

Taking the medication she is taking is also a risk for suicide as a side effect. Wouldn’t it be a shame if that was the outcome because she found herself a doctor who was willing to prescribe her something she didn’t need?

Wouldn’t any GP worth his money suggest some sort of therapy alongside the medication? This doesn’t appear to be the case according to my SD.

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Blushingm · 23/02/2025 16:07

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:00

@OhSoSharkie
You are VERY opinionated about issues you seem to think you know a lot about. You may have your own experience with the medication I am concerned about but you do not have my own lived experience with my daughter.

I am almost 100% sure that the parents of teenagers and young adults who have committed suicide and didn’t share information with their parents wish that there was some way that they could have known the things that they didn’t know in order to help and guide them.

Our experience with my SS and his mental health are just one of the factors which have alerted me to the possibility that my daughter is being prescribed medication that she does not need to have. I know my children.

I would absolutely not expect her to divulge every detail of her life to me or my DH and I but I am privy to certain information rightly or wrongly and I feel I would be an absolute terrible parent to not question what is going on. Her responses to my husband seem to indicate to us that she is not fully aware what constitutes a mental health condition requiring treatment and what does not. We again would be terrible parents to just leave it at that.

We absolutely will be discussing this further with her at some point and if it comes to light that there is something bigger going on then I will be glad to know so that we can support her. Imagine if it turns out that her relationship is controlling and she is being emotionally abused? Imagine if it turns out that she is using the anxiety as an excuse to get access to medication in the hope of losing weight? If there happens to be a genuine case of depression and anxiety then I would like to suggest to her that she explores some therapy. How am I or anyone else going to help her with this if we do not know? Your solution seems to be to leave her to herself and the medical profession.

We do not live in a country or a family where we just throw our children into the hands of the govt or the world without a further thought for their well being once they become legal age. It is laughable to you can quote my countries laws re 12 year olds making medical decisions as a defense for your argument. My daughter at the age of 12 couldn’t decide whether she preferred her Barbie or cabbage patch doll. She is not afraid of us and I believe our relationship is open and honest.

You have not changed my mind and in fact have just cemented the fact that I am so glad we have the opportunity to be as involved in our young adults lives as we are. You have also reminded me how futile it is to seek the advice of strangers on the internet.

Being a parent is no walk in the park and being a step mother has been one of the most challenging but rewarding experiences. Thank you for the fervent interest you have taken in my problem and I admire your advocacy of her right to privacy and the efficacy of the meds she has chosen but again… it just does not feel right and I will forever be full of regret if there is something else going on here that we could help with.

You talk about people committing suicide - well my brother did just that - he didn't seek help as was afraid of what people/family/work would think - your step daughter has sought help, from a doctor not from you - you have made it clear you don't feel her 'problems' are that bad and that you (not a doctor or healthcare professionals) have made it clear she's being silly. You now think she can talk to you?

stuckinthemiddlewithyou1 · 23/02/2025 16:00

@OhSoSharkie
You are VERY opinionated about issues you seem to think you know a lot about. You may have your own experience with the medication I am concerned about but you do not have my own lived experience with my daughter.

I am almost 100% sure that the parents of teenagers and young adults who have committed suicide and didn’t share information with their parents wish that there was some way that they could have known the things that they didn’t know in order to help and guide them.

Our experience with my SS and his mental health are just one of the factors which have alerted me to the possibility that my daughter is being prescribed medication that she does not need to have. I know my children.

I would absolutely not expect her to divulge every detail of her life to me or my DH and I but I am privy to certain information rightly or wrongly and I feel I would be an absolute terrible parent to not question what is going on. Her responses to my husband seem to indicate to us that she is not fully aware what constitutes a mental health condition requiring treatment and what does not. We again would be terrible parents to just leave it at that.

We absolutely will be discussing this further with her at some point and if it comes to light that there is something bigger going on then I will be glad to know so that we can support her. Imagine if it turns out that her relationship is controlling and she is being emotionally abused? Imagine if it turns out that she is using the anxiety as an excuse to get access to medication in the hope of losing weight? If there happens to be a genuine case of depression and anxiety then I would like to suggest to her that she explores some therapy. How am I or anyone else going to help her with this if we do not know? Your solution seems to be to leave her to herself and the medical profession.

We do not live in a country or a family where we just throw our children into the hands of the govt or the world without a further thought for their well being once they become legal age. It is laughable to you can quote my countries laws re 12 year olds making medical decisions as a defense for your argument. My daughter at the age of 12 couldn’t decide whether she preferred her Barbie or cabbage patch doll. She is not afraid of us and I believe our relationship is open and honest.

You have not changed my mind and in fact have just cemented the fact that I am so glad we have the opportunity to be as involved in our young adults lives as we are. You have also reminded me how futile it is to seek the advice of strangers on the internet.

Being a parent is no walk in the park and being a step mother has been one of the most challenging but rewarding experiences. Thank you for the fervent interest you have taken in my problem and I admire your advocacy of her right to privacy and the efficacy of the meds she has chosen but again… it just does not feel right and I will forever be full of regret if there is something else going on here that we could help with.

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OhSoSharkie · 23/02/2025 15:12

@PeonyBlushSuede

She's in South Africa. I went to see what her experience was with her brother she mentioned to try and understand why so much vitriol was sent towards me and why she resented her SD taking meds so much.