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Teachers : what's the worst thing about the job now?

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Floursacktabletop · 22/02/2025 20:31

I've name changed , but been here many years and teaching for 22 years.
Dreading going back on Monday. For me , the worst bit is the increasingly poor behaviour of students and the continual parental complaints and allegations.
Anyone else dreading it and fancy a solidarity thread?

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PumpkinPie2016 · 22/02/2025 22:36

Secondary - middle leader - core subject.
I am fortunate that behaviour at my school is good and the SLT support where it isn't.

However, (and its a big however!) for that to be achieved, the job is absolutely relentless!
We have extremely tight, consistent routines across school. Line ups in the morning and after break/lunch. So, some days, I can up and down the stairs 8 times (I am on the top floor of a 4 floor building- I get my steps in if nothing else).

Manning corridors at lesson changeover (when not up/down the stairs).

Lunch is 30 mins, but in reality about 25 mins.

Then lessons have the routines embedded and we have to be tightly planned - not necessarily a bad thing but literally, some classes, I know I can't breathe for a moment or the balance is upset.

Ofsted are due and the pressure that brings is huge.

Huge workload (and my school do try to minimise it).

It is literally like being on a constant hamster wheel all day, every day, with no break ever.

I love teaching but it is utterly relentless.

Annaannaannab · 22/02/2025 22:36

I qualified at the end of 2021. My dream , sacrificed years of my life studying and training . I’m already out .

I have never been so depressed , I almost had a breakdown - and that is not an exaggeration, one day I just walked in and realised I couldn’t take another day , and I walked out. If I hadn’t , I dread to think what would happen. The pressure , the micromanaging, the lack of respect, the workload, the complete hopelessness you feel when you realise the system is designed to impress ofsted not do the best for the children . The worst - especially as a mother of a SEN child - the lack of support for SEN. I was directly told to stop what I had implemented for a SEN child and focus instead on the other children because “ he’s never going to make it “ .

Im now in a different role - still education but adults , disabilities and the best part… no ofsted. I’m excited to go back on Monday because I absolutely love my job now. Yet when I was in teaching I’m not being dramatic when I say I had lay in bed many Sunday nights hoping to have a car crash on the way into work so I wouldn’t have to go in .

mrpenny · 22/02/2025 22:35

Mustreadabook · 22/02/2025 22:32

But why shouldn’t parents send messages when it is convenient for them? You only answer them when it is convenient for you. Many parents won’t be able to send messages when you are working because they are working.

What the hell do you want to keep contacting us for!!!! parents never used t9 and we managed fine. Endless, endless messages about nonsense most of the time.

Trying2310 · 22/02/2025 22:34

Behaviour
Lack of resilience among students
Lack of parental support. Parents allowing children to escape taking accountability for their actions.

I am a secondary school teacher with a teenage child with additional needs. He needs support and accommodations within school, but his additional needs are not to be used to excuse rudeness or disruption in lessons. He must take accountability for his actions.

IDoWhateverItTakes · 22/02/2025 22:34

Lifeisnoteasy84 · 22/02/2025 21:53

Don't teachers get something like 13 weeks annual leave per annum? So 9 weeks more than most full time employees. So you dread actually returning from school holidays to do your job? Strange thread.

Oh do fuck off.

They're not all paid. Teachers get the same amount of paid holidays everyone else does in this country. A quick online search if you didn't already know that (which you probably do) would explain it to you.

ThriveAT · 22/02/2025 22:33

Floursacktabletop · 22/02/2025 20:31

I've name changed , but been here many years and teaching for 22 years.
Dreading going back on Monday. For me , the worst bit is the increasingly poor behaviour of students and the continual parental complaints and allegations.
Anyone else dreading it and fancy a solidarity thread?

All of what you've said, 100%. I feel the same.

vipersnest1 · 22/02/2025 22:33

@mrpenny, care to explain why you think I'm joking?

Mustreadabook · 22/02/2025 22:32

millmoo · 22/02/2025 20:53

behaviour ….. and the fact that most parents excuse this behaviour because they think that their kid is ND.
parents - basically allowed to speak to us how they want.

why oh why does every parent believe their kids side of the story ?!!

we have a communication app so parents are able to messages us at any time of the day or night (we don’t reply at night/ weekend ) but why is that ok ?? I don’t have a direct communication line with my doctor or my bank manager !

But why shouldn’t parents send messages when it is convenient for them? You only answer them when it is convenient for you. Many parents won’t be able to send messages when you are working because they are working.

Frustratedmumpleasehelp · 22/02/2025 22:32

I realised the other day that I permanently feel anxious and unsafe in my job.
Fights, knives, throwing tables and chairs, swearing at each other and members of staff, deliberate defiance, or simply falling asleep on the desk and refusing to work.
These things used to happen of course but were rare. Now it’s common place, daily for me. (Or, every lesson more recently!)
It’s just so exhausting and relentless and you can’t say what you want to say to the little darlings so you go home frustrated and drained and your family get the brunt of it!
There is no strict discipline or proportionate consequences, now every child deserves multiple chances, understanding and compassion and this has created monsters!
Why are we so scared to sanction children?

Bushmillsbabe · 22/02/2025 22:32

Philandbill · 22/02/2025 21:23

I'm waiting for all the non teachers to comment on this thread and tell us that we have an easy job, to stop moaning because other jobs are hard too (we know that) and to leave if it's not for you. And we are leaving, on our hundreds.... Who is going to be doing the job in ten years? Not I, I'll be retiring before then.

My 11 year old has had (apart from 1 awful teacher) brilliant teachers and TA's, and with that positive example, is determined to be a primary school teacher. Obviously very young and lots may change, but I don't want her to be a teacher, as if it's bad now, by time she graduates in 10 years time, will be horrendous. It's an incredibly valuable job, but an incredibly tough one, and I don't want her to go through that level of stress.

mrpenny · 22/02/2025 22:32

mrpenny · 22/02/2025 22:31

This is a joke, right?

Sorry..meant for the poster who was scorning teachers holidays..

SushiT · 22/02/2025 22:31

I’m resigning in April after 20 years. It’s just a terrible job now. Can’t wait.

Posyrosytoasty · 22/02/2025 22:31

I’m so pleased I left 3 years ago. I still earn alot less than I did but I have not even 1/4 of the stress in my new job. I’d never return even for 70k a year .

mrpenny · 22/02/2025 22:31

vipersnest1 · 22/02/2025 22:29

Do you work full time and regularly put in ten to twenty hours more than you're paid for?

This is a joke, right?

HeldBack · 22/02/2025 22:31

weefella · 22/02/2025 21:22

The complete lack of resources to support children with severe levels of SEND. Staff are regularly being bitten, kicked, punched, and having furniture thrown at them. It's a rare day when someone isn't called a bitch and/or told to f*ck off.

These are 5yr-old in a mainstream primary school. I think parents would be shocked if they could see what goes on.

I am so shocked that children this young are behaving like this. Is this the case everywhere? Is it a new thing? My kids have just left school and I have never come across this behaviour in any of the years or seen it mentioned by any of my friends either.

Silvertulips · 22/02/2025 22:31

The last straw was having been kicked in the face - I still have a lump 3 years later - and not one SLT asked me if I was OK, and I still had to work all afternoon.

mrpenny · 22/02/2025 22:30

Thedownstream · 22/02/2025 20:50

Non teacher here. I’m intrigued about the comments saying it’s the parents. Is it just a couple per class or is it a large proportion of them? Are they pushy parents demanding more for their child or parents you’re having to deal with about an issue who are abusive / in denial?

We have no contact with our kids’ teachers other than at parents evening. I occasionally email the school office with a change to pick up arrangements or something else administrative.

Constant. Abusive. Most of them. Never had a problem with parents ever but the last five years have been hell. Glad I’m retiring.

Jennaveeve · 22/02/2025 22:30

I can’t even express how much I dread Monday. The constant criticism from SLT whilst doing absolutely nothing to address the horrendous behaviour.

vipersnest1 · 22/02/2025 22:29

Lifeisnoteasy84 · 22/02/2025 21:53

Don't teachers get something like 13 weeks annual leave per annum? So 9 weeks more than most full time employees. So you dread actually returning from school holidays to do your job? Strange thread.

Do you work full time and regularly put in ten to twenty hours more than you're paid for?

Hercisback1 · 22/02/2025 22:28

Behaviour has hugely deteriorated because children don't face consequences for poor behaviour at home. When they get consequences in school they say things like "I'll get my mum to email you and cancel the detention" or "my dad will send in a formal complaint".

Upwiththelark76 · 22/02/2025 22:28

SLT
Behaviour
SEND and lack of funding to support the children properly
Expectation of being a social worker, speech and language therapist, nurse, parent and that’s before we even think about educating 😞

IDoWhateverItTakes · 22/02/2025 22:27

ItsAToughie · 22/02/2025 21:22

I'm teaching in special school now after a long time struggling with lack of support with SEN teaching in mainstream. Desperately wanted to make a difference for children with additional needs.

It's no better.
School is run like a corporation. No support, despite there being several thousand SLT. They sit in their offices doing fuck all while we get our throats grabbed, bitten, kicked and punched on a daily basis.

It's ok though, cos they give us sympathetic smiles occasionally as they walk around the school with the latest group of governors/local councillors, crowing about how wonderful we are and how we are a beacon of SEN provision for the local area.

Our local SEN school is exactly like that. Everyone I know that worked there didn't last because they were being constantly assaulted by the students with no support. Yet the parade of self-congratulatory powers that be continues to walk through the halls...

Floursacktabletop · 22/02/2025 22:27

I'm.a secondary teacher. We recently took year 9 on a trip which required them to take off their own clothes, and put on a piece of clothing provided for the activity. Over half of year 9 had no idea how to hang their clothes on a clothes hanger. We spent time demonstrating and therefore wasted time at the activity..parents should be doing these basic life skills

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ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 22/02/2025 22:27

ChittyChittyBoomBoom · 22/02/2025 20:45

If you’d have asked me this 3 years ago, I’d have said workload.

Now I say behaviour.

The workload hasn’t eased at all though.

I was going to ask, as so many of you have mentioned behaviour specifically and it features so high up the list, if you think behaviour has deteriorated noticably in any particulat timeframe and what you think the reason for that might be.

pimplebum · 22/02/2025 22:25

Parents threaten legal and sometimes want to end your career without getting the facts first
causes so much stress

workload - why are thousands of English teachers making Macbeth worksheets when this could be centrally organised?

send , no ed psychs available not resources if a child is diagnosed