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To not sign this petition? Diagram included

94 replies

Whatnowthenfordone · 22/02/2025 13:51

I live in a small cul-de-sac and my garden gate opens just as a small pedestrian cut turns into the street’s pavement and road. Numbers 1-4 on the diagram are two bedroom terraces, 12 & 13 are 4 bed semis, and the rest are bungalows. The shop is a very small Tesco Express. The green is the pedestrianised cut.

The couple from the bungalow at number 10 have launched a petition to stop access through the cut. I got a letter yesterday from them asking me to sign the petition and have already knocked twice today (waking me up the first time and was making lunch the second time so I haven’t spoken to them).

I don’t want access stopped. I like walking to the shop and elsewhere via the cut and see no reason to have to walk the long way around. On the very rare occasion you might get teenagers going to the shop on their way home who sit on the wall in the cut for a little bit, but not often. I’ve never had any trouble from the cut in the five years I’ve lived here.

But the neighbour said in the letter that the whole street has signed it but me. WIBU to refuse? I really don’t want to have bad blood with the neighbours but given Im one of the two houses which actually fronts onto the cut and don’t have a problem I can’t see what their issue is. WIBU to just hide from her and hope the Council takes no notice of any petition?

To not sign this petition? Diagram included
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thismummydrinksgin · 22/02/2025 17:21

I'd avoid them, keep putting them off. In England, a petition with such a small number of signatures would trigger much response x

MyFlightWasAwfulThanksForAsking · 22/02/2025 17:03

I think they're on a hiding to nothing tbh, especially if they can't even describe the "numerous problems" it's apparently causing.
I can't see a council closing off the path to a shop. How would they physically do it anyway? Build a wall?
Stand your ground and don't sign their daft petition.
I would be tempted to get in first with an email to my councillor and also to share this bonkers plan with the shop owner so they can do the same.

PuppyMonkey · 22/02/2025 17:03

I don’t understand why people are taking the piss out of the diagram.Confused

Whatnowthenfordone · 22/02/2025 16:54

KnickerlessParsons · 22/02/2025 16:33

In thought it was an excellent diagramme. I understood what you meant straight away.

Thank you 😅 I genuinely don’t understand what everyone thinks is wrong with it. Looks spot on to me.

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KnickerlessParsons · 22/02/2025 16:33

In thought it was an excellent diagramme. I understood what you meant straight away.

Whoarethoseguys · 22/02/2025 16:24

Whatnowthenfordone · 22/02/2025 14:59

It took me ages.

There is nothing wrong with it. It shows what you need to show. I have no idea why people are complaining about it.
It's not an art gallery!

CorrectionCentre · 22/02/2025 16:24

That is it. I don’t know why. I’d have to speak to the couple

Tbh if I was relatively new to the area and neighbours who'd lived there for decades without asking for the cut to be closed are now doing so, I'd assume there had actually been some problems. I'd want to know what's happened to make them feel so strongly before making my mind up about the petition.

itsgettingweird · 22/02/2025 16:14

You said the gate to the cut through is your garden.

Presumably your back garden? Do you have high fences?

I assume you have a drive out the other side at the front? You said it's double?

Although no one should make you sign I'm wondering if higher fences and it being behind you mean that you don't see or get disturbed by things your neighbours do?

Soontobe60 · 22/02/2025 16:14

In lots of areas around me there a ginnels that are used as short cuts, and they almost invariably come with associated problems - people take their dogs through them to do their business and dont pick it up, groups of youths gather there and cause a disturbance, often there’s antisocial behaviour. Some councils have gated off these ginnels where possible and given residents keys so they can use them, eg on bin day, but they're no longer cut throughs.
Perhaps speak to the neighbours to find out why they want the ginnel gated.

Mischance · 22/02/2025 16:03

What are these "numerous problems!? You are the nearest so presumably would know best if there were any problems.

Mischance · 22/02/2025 16:01

What is their problem with it?

Whatnowthenfordone · 22/02/2025 15:56

HotCrossBunplease · 22/02/2025 15:25

Petitions normally begin with an explanatory paragraph. What does this one say?

‘The residents of X Close would like Y Council to close the pedestrian cut running between X Close and Z Lane. It has caused numerous problems for residents wishing to enjoy the peace and tranquility of our relatively isolated and peaceful neighbourhood. Many of us have lived on X Close for decades, and the rural character of the area is something we value and wish to protect.’

That is it. I don’t know why. I’d have to speak to the couple.

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Whatnowthenfordone · 22/02/2025 15:51

AuntieBsBramble · 22/02/2025 15:37

Ah I think I get it - I've spotted the door on shop now. If cut is closed the only way to get to shop is to drive (or walk) to shop parking side.

So it would cut down on randoms parking or just accessing from your cul-de-sac. However it seems a massive cutting off nose to spite your face manoeuvre as it makes it much more difficult from everyone who lives in cul-de-sac to get to shop too.

Do they all shop in Waitrose - or posh north of the border equivalent?

Yes, that’s right.

No idea where they shop. To be honest I just said Tesco so as to not be outing but if a neighbour’s seen this thread then they’ve seen. It’s more a local ‘Molly’s Convenience’ which sells what a little Tesco would - eggs, milk, wine, bread etc. but it’s expensive so can’t imagine anyone is doing any sort of bigger shop there.

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AuntieBsBramble · 22/02/2025 15:37

Ah I think I get it - I've spotted the door on shop now. If cut is closed the only way to get to shop is to drive (or walk) to shop parking side.

So it would cut down on randoms parking or just accessing from your cul-de-sac. However it seems a massive cutting off nose to spite your face manoeuvre as it makes it much more difficult from everyone who lives in cul-de-sac to get to shop too.

Do they all shop in Waitrose - or posh north of the border equivalent?

XWKD · 22/02/2025 15:26

I don't see anything wrong with the diagram. It's not meant to be art.

It's not nice to belittle someone for the way they draw.

HotCrossBunplease · 22/02/2025 15:25

Petitions normally begin with an explanatory paragraph. What does this one say?

friendlycat · 22/02/2025 15:23

You just politely say I’m sorry but I won’t be signing the petition as I like the access and have no problem with it. If they push you more you just state you are sorry but disagree.

Gcsunnyside23 · 22/02/2025 15:22

You need to find out their reasoning as there must be something else that's causing them to want it closed

Kahless · 22/02/2025 15:17

canipetthatdawggg · 22/02/2025 13:59

I actually thought the diagram was quite informative once I got past the initial anxiety it somehow gave me 😂

Why did it give you anxiety??

Whatnowthenfordone · 22/02/2025 15:15

gamerchick · 22/02/2025 15:02

What's the issue with the cut?

I don’t know. I think I’ll speak to them and ask. I’ll also ask my next door neighbour and see what he thinks. We’re quite new to the area so maybe there are historical reasons Im not familiar with. If the reasons seem valid and logical I’ll reconsider.

I had no idea the diagram would attract such a reaction 😆 It’s quite hard because the two bedroom houses are only slightly smaller than the four, but the bungalows are huge, bigger than both sets of houses, and much older, and I couldn’t quite work out how the floor plan squeezes in the bungalows. I suspect it’s because they back onto the church’s land. I will have to try and take notes if I’m ever invited back into any of the bungalows’ back gardens.

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FFSJulie · 22/02/2025 15:06

Nothing wrong with the diagram. I understood it immediately.

“We don’t sign petitions for any reason, but wish you all the best”.

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 22/02/2025 15:06

Whatnowthenfordone · 22/02/2025 14:47

To be fair they haven’t put any pressure on at all.

They’re a lovely couple and are always generous with their time and hospitality. They bring around toys for our kids that their grandkids have outgrown (little trikes etc) and have made us feel very welcome since we moved here. I feel a bit bad about posting now. I was just worried that saying no to signing would upset them. Especially the woman.

Ah, OK, thanks - I misconstrued.

Even so, they must realise that not everybody will see things the same way that they do, if they're decent, reasonable people.

It's not a value judgement of their preferences and opinions if yours happen to be different.

gamerchick · 22/02/2025 15:02

What's the issue with the cut?

HotCrossBunplease · 22/02/2025 15:00

harriethoyle · 22/02/2025 14:57

Don’t be mean. The diagram is fine and makes the cut situation perfectly clear.

Yea, it makes the topography very clear. Doesn’t explain what the problem is though.

OP it would be much easier to advise you if we understood what problem the cut is creating for your neighbours? Because on its face it just looks like a handy shortcut for all residents.

Whatnowthenfordone · 22/02/2025 14:59

GreenCandleWax · 22/02/2025 14:55

It looks as if its been done by a three year old. Could you not have taken a bit more care with it?

It took me ages.

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