to think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use?

This poster is quite delusional! Can you imagine the increase in cost of the medication if pharmacies had to rent spaces to see patients in person! All because a small number of people manage to obtain the drug illegally. Where is the accountability?
And you know those people who currently obtain it from legitimate sources whilst not fulfilling the prescription criteria will just get it from the black market if they can not longer get a prescription.

Please don't continue to berate me.
I'm not here to insult people.
You are trying to twist my words.
Fwiw I live with a medic and I know quite a lot about drugs having worked for big pharma.
I shan't be in gaging with you again.

A few pharmacies offer in person consultations in their high street locations but most pharmacies operate entirely online. As I asked you before - where should I go for my in person consultation with my online provider?

Only per NICE guidelines via the NHS. Privately prescribed it doesn't have a limit.

Just like 'ozempic face'. It's media click bait bollocks.

I mean private pharmacies not the NHS.

And they could see patients from private clinics plus some of the prescribers are organisations with multiple outlets like Boots, Asda etc.

@Tulipsandaffodils as an ex 20 stoner I don't have any inclination to insult obese people.
Wegovy is licenced for two years use only.

No dig intended.

@SwingTheMonkey "No, I mean there’s a misconception that regaining is specific to WLI. It’s come from the media, I think."

Got you. Agree. This is one more version of the "faux concern / oh you poor people / don't take those evil drugs" attempts by thin people in order to keep overweight people in their place.

Diabetics do take Semiglutinade ( WLJ sister wegovy ) continually but the amount is tiny. Both my T2 friends have been on it four years.

Reflecting on the research I did prior to starting wegovy I think the majority took the WLJ for six months. They were then keen to taper off. Fat doesn't make you stupid (however many people believe this). On the WLJ threads people were keen to carry on their journeys having reduced their body weight by about a stone a month and then they were hitting the gym etc.
I've lost over six stone, part naturally and with a few weeks on Wegovy. The effects don't leave for quite some time. Some good, some bad.
The cost and the risks make most sensible people want to taper when they are at a normal weight.

No, I mean there’s a misconception that regaining is specific to WLI. It’s come from the media, I think.

@SwingTheMonkey do you mean that's the case (that weight regain is more likely with WLI than traditional diets)? Or do you mean there's a misperception there and the regain is true no matter what someone tries?

My experience - as many like me who have dieted repeatedly and always regained - is that weight maintenance is extremely hard, perhaps even close to impossible (though I never say never) for those who have gained weight in the first place.

This is clearer now I think with WLI - since I started taking MJ I've realised how thin people feel all the time: food is simply not such an issue for them.

Not discipline.
Not supreme hard working effort.
Just hormones and bodily differences.

This means I follow with interest any efforts at weight gain prevention particularly for kids (that should be where all societal efforts are put)
I also follow with interest hope and curiosity all evolving knowledge and information on WLI for maintenance (eg pills now being in development for maintenance)

For overweight and obese people these drugs are life changing and all the (mostly minor) side effects are IMO more than worth it. I have felt incredibly lucky that they exist.

I agree with all of your points but I also think that people think the regaining of weight (followed by a gleeful ‘and loads more on top!’) is unique to WLI. Like as soon as you come off the jabs, you’ll blow up like a balloon.

Exactly the same with any way of losing weight. Eg all "eat less and exercise more" attempts via diet alone. Hence showing how hard a problem obesity is to tackle. The only real "cure" is prevention, never becoming obese in the first place which is hard in our obesogenic environment. The efforts towards prevention are very important.

But I have a question for you. If we follow your argument, we can then conclude that no one should attempt to lose weight through diet / exercise because "they'll regain it anyway".

So is that your advice to them? Not to even try?
And also are you aware that people on WLI have to reduce calories thus follow healthy eating in order to lose weight? The medicine just makes that easier, creating a level playing field with those who have never become OW / obese in the first place

But I think that's actually the problem right there. Thin people perhaps don't like the idea of a level playing field in terms of appetite. They prefer to believe and sell the myth that they are thin because of supreme effort & discipline while the fatties are undisciplined lazy and just don't try hard enough.

I am certain that if anyone who's always been thin had to deal with the level of cravings and intense hunger OW people deal with everyday they would rapidly gain weight.

Yes I am aware of the same are but potentially serious side effects. Same as I am with the Tamoxifen my GP so glibly tells me to take. And even the rare but potential dangers of paracetamol, aspirin etc al.

No, why should I know that? I'm not a pharmacist.

At a different dosage. Surely you know that?

They haven't been around that long being used as they are being used now. I am sure you know the serious if rare side effects. I am deleting this thread now as I
have said all I want to say. Some people have a vested interest in promoting it.

Oh that's embarrassing. You didn't actually know that these drugs have been in use, by millions of people, for twenty years already?

And yet you're a pharmacist?

What do you mean by private healthcare providers? Like BUPA? A majority of people are using pharmacies who operate exclusively online. Private healthcare providers have nothing to do with prescribing WLI in most cases. Where would I go for my in person appointment with my exclusively online pharmacy?

Seeing as an awful lot of people get Wegovy etc via private pharmacies, maybe private healthcare providers could offer more face to face appointments as I agree the NHS is already overwhelmed.

I imagine what where people qualify for the drugs via the NHS criteria their initial consultation at least is face to face with their GP.