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nameey · 2025-02-22T11:12:28+00:00

Just read that the 30 year old singer Avery has been diagnosed with osteoporosis due to Ozempic use. Looks like this could be the start of many conditions coming out. I know Ozempic is incredibly helpful for a lot of people but losing weight but then having osteoporosis does not seem worth it. AIBU?

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 17:37

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 17:00

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/obesity/treatment/

I would suspect that users of semaglutide know that there’s currently a limit for its usage. There isn’t such a limit for tirzepatide.

steff13 · 23/02/2025 17:27

Orangesandlemons77 · 22/02/2025 17:21

I think I found what the OP is referring to here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14328783/Ozempic-left-deadly-bone-thinning-disease-singer-Avery-30-reveals-heartbreaking-confession-dont-make-mistake.html

I know it's not in any way the point, but that article spells "Phoenix" incorrectly multiple times. I guess The Daily Mail can't afford spell check. 😉

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 17:00

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/obesity/treatment/

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 16:58

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 16:38

No prescription medication is suitable for everyone that wants them. Medication isn't prescribed according to want, there are prescribing criteria in place.

It hardly needs saying, does it, that it's better to be aware of any possible negative effects of a medication? That's why the info is printed in the patient info leaflet that must accompany the medication. And in all the interactions you have with the prescriber before prescribing. And why manufacturers continue with studies and research, and the MHRA runs the Yellow Card scheme and so on.

This is all true & it's also true (in my opinion) that there is still a need for more long term studies on these drugs being used for weight loss over many years. The NHS guidance is still that you can take semaglutide for a maximum of 2 years.

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 16:38

No prescription medication is suitable for everyone that wants them. Medication isn't prescribed according to want, there are prescribing criteria in place.

It hardly needs saying, does it, that it's better to be aware of any possible negative effects of a medication? That's why the info is printed in the patient info leaflet that must accompany the medication. And in all the interactions you have with the prescriber before prescribing. And why manufacturers continue with studies and research, and the MHRA runs the Yellow Card scheme and so on.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 16:29

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 16:16

@Twiglets1 there have been many studies for semaglutide for weight loss, and they are continuing. The same with tirzepatide. I think there's a lot of current data with more to come.

Yes it's good there have been some studies but there is still a need for more long term studies and hopefully they will provide reassurance.

I definitely think weight loss drugs are here to stay and will continue be prescribed for a wide range of people. It's just that they may not be suitable for everyone that wants them & it's better to be aware of any possible negative effects as well as all the positive ones.

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SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 16:16

@Twiglets1 there have been many studies for semaglutide for weight loss, and they are continuing. The same with tirzepatide. I think there's a lot of current data with more to come.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 16:13

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 15:59

@Twiglets1 the answer can only be, as already said, possibly or possibly not! It would seem unlikely to me at the moment, given the history of use, the use by many millions of people and the very low incidence of the known serious side effects. Much more likely that there will be new uses and new GLP-1s that address other related issues successfully.

I agree that no definitive answer can be given at present as we simply don't have enough data for the widespread use of these drugs for weight loss purposes. I think the risks seem acceptable at the moment as long as the drugs are taken as the manufacturers recommend.

However, I do think long-term studies are needed to identify potential problems with long-term use.

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 16:03

nameey · 23/02/2025 16:00

@Twiglets1 thank you for trying to keep this thread on track 👏

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I have to say, @nameey - bravo for your incredible contribution to this thread. It’s been truly insightful!

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nameey · 23/02/2025 16:00

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:46

I doubt Lottie Moss has the same access to money as those two.

In the end no one can know for sure how Lottie Moss got access to drugs that she definitely shouldn't have been prescribed and it's worrying that she managed to do so because of the implications for other young women.

But again, this thread is not about her but rather about whether we think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use. What do you think?

@Twiglets1 thank you for trying to keep this thread on track 👏

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SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 15:59

@Twiglets1 the answer can only be, as already said, possibly or possibly not! It would seem unlikely to me at the moment, given the history of use, the use by many millions of people and the very low incidence of the known serious side effects. Much more likely that there will be new uses and new GLP-1s that address other related issues successfully.

RunSlowTalkFast · 23/02/2025 15:58

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:56

Yes she has enough money to buy ozempic from an online pharmacy that doesn't ask for enough proof.

No I don't think she has enough money to persuade a UK doctor to risk ending their career over giving her drugs even knowing her very low BMI.

Why are you so determined to derail this thread rather than thinking about the actual question asked by the OP?

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If I had Kate Moss' money any younger siblings of mine would also be multimillionaires. No idea how generous Kate Moss is though.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:56

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 15:51

Oh give over, she clearly has enough to buy a few vials of ozempic 😂😂😂😂

and yeah we beleive she’s being honest, it’s just you deciding she lied to Boots.

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Yes she has enough money to buy ozempic from an online pharmacy that doesn't ask for enough proof.

No I don't think she has enough money to persuade a UK doctor to risk ending their career over giving her drugs even knowing her very low BMI.

Why are you so determined to derail this thread rather than thinking about the actual question asked by the OP?

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 15:55

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:46

I doubt Lottie Moss has the same access to money as those two.

In the end no one can know for sure how Lottie Moss got access to drugs that she definitely shouldn't have been prescribed and it's worrying that she managed to do so because of the implications for other young women.

But again, this thread is not about her but rather about whether we think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use. What do you think?

Possibly. Possibly not. That’s all there is to say on the matter, surely?! It’s ridiculous to think there can be any discussion on the matter because none of us can see into the future. They’re doing some pretty amazing things currently though - that’s not in doubt.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 15:51

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:46

I doubt Lottie Moss has the same access to money as those two.

In the end no one can know for sure how Lottie Moss got access to drugs that she definitely shouldn't have been prescribed and it's worrying that she managed to do so because of the implications for other young women.

But again, this thread is not about her but rather about whether we think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use. What do you think?

Oh give over, she clearly has enough to buy a few vials of ozempic 😂😂😂😂

and yeah we beleive she’s being honest, it’s just you deciding she lied to Boots.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:46

I doubt Lottie Moss has the same access to money as those two.

In the end no one can know for sure how Lottie Moss got access to drugs that she definitely shouldn't have been prescribed and it's worrying that she managed to do so because of the implications for other young women.

But again, this thread is not about her but rather about whether we think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use. What do you think?

RunSlowTalkFast · 23/02/2025 15:05

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:50

Why would a doctor risk their registration & career to knowingly give someone a dodgy prescription? Not very likely, far more likely she lied to get it.

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Money.

Michael Jackson
Matthew Perry

AlphaApple · 23/02/2025 14:56

@caffeineneedednow nails it.

MzHz · 23/02/2025 14:24

Caffeineneedednow · 23/02/2025 12:27

What exactly do you want to be the outcome of this thread?

Would you just like everyone to agree with you that WLI are bad and all fatties just need to go on a diet and go to a gym?
The eat less move more has been the mantra for decades but obesity levels across the world are rising.

To be clear if weight loss was that easy we wouldn't have an obesity pandemic.

There are things we as a society can do. For example tax the fuck out of UPF, increase infrastructure for access to sport especially in lower socioeconomic areas where childhood obesity is highest. However this would be unpopular / expensive so unlikely to happen.

So we have an obesity pandemic and now there is actually a treatment available that is allowing people to regain control of their health. The problems often highlighted as issues with the drug including your original post are actually due to their misuse not their prescribed use. So by worrying about potential side and then laughing at those who disagree with you with some random argumebt that they are unhappy but claiming to be happy is incredibly condescending and goes back to the argument of what arebyou trying to achieve?

I work in a medical school and one of the things we teach med students is how to broach sentivie topics and the way you and others in this thread are laughing at those reply to you and just calling them defensive is what causes the defensiveness. You need to adress things in a middle ground and actually be willing to listen to others experiences.

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Love this post. Brava! Spot on!

Mrsredlipstick · 23/02/2025 14:08

My surgery would have been needed at some point but wegovy inflammed my gallbladder. It's was agony.
I wouldn't take the drugs again as I am now much slimmer however for people with morbid obesity they are life changing (I suffered D and V too which is a no for me). Two friends have had few side effects but are diabetic.
In a weird way they did save my life as my pre op ct scan showed something much more sinister and I'm being operated on in the next week.
FWIW I did weigh 20+ stone and had these drugs been available then I would have been first in the queue.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 14:08

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 14:05

Well personally I think you’re being naive if you think lots of celebrities & Z list celebrities like Lottie Moss aren’t using weight loss drugs to stay slim whether they admit to it or not.

I think it’s highly likely they are & that most of them are getting them from the same online pharmacies people on this thread are using.

But we’ve moved away from the title of this thread which is not about Lottie Moss but about negative side effects that may or may not emerge in future.

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So like you’re kong term unknown effects, nothing to back it up, 😂😂😂

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 14:05

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 13:53

You're extremely naive if you think dodgy doctors don't prescribe drugs for cash to celebrity clients 😆😆

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Well personally I think you’re being naive if you think lots of celebrities & Z list celebrities like Lottie Moss aren’t using weight loss drugs to stay slim whether they admit to it or not.

I think it’s highly likely they are & that most of them are getting them from the same online pharmacies people on this thread are using.

But we’ve moved away from the title of this thread which is not about Lottie Moss but about negative side effects that may or may not emerge in future.

IvysMum12 · 23/02/2025 14:01

ExtraOnions · 22/02/2025 12:24

Being morbidly obese I have a (actual and scientifically proven) much higher chance of Stroke, Heart Disease, Diabeties, High blood pressure etc etc etc. I would sooner work to reduce my chances of those, than worry about some unproven scaremongering.

3 stone in 3 months with Mounjaro

Exactly. I've lost six and a half stone since last May on Mounjaro. Supervised by two Consultants.
Only side effects were sulphuric burps.
I was massively, morbidly obese.
Not any more.
We need more data regarding maintenance, which we all know is the hard part.
It's a hard hitting drug, not a "celebrity" fad for a bikini body.