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to think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use?

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nameey · 22/02/2025 11:12

Just read that the 30 year old singer Avery has been diagnosed with osteoporosis due to Ozempic use. Looks like this could be the start of many conditions coming out.

I know Ozempic is incredibly helpful for a lot of people but losing weight but then having osteoporosis does not seem worth it.

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Jackiepumpkinhead · 23/02/2025 22:09

nameey · 22/02/2025 19:29

Just because people don't post about it here does not mean they are not concerned about other prescription medication. I have been concerned about many other prescription medicine also.

So much worry about things that don’t concern you!

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 22:08

Gardenservant · 23/02/2025 22:05

Too new for me. New is relative.

As a pharmacist you know this peptide has been in use for over 20 years right. What makes 25 thr magic number, as you said another 5?

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 22:07

lettyraines · 23/02/2025 20:44

I know what common knowledge means. That poster was one of the most coherent on this thread, so I was surprised to learn she was not aware of this 'common knowledge'.

I am not sure if you're directing this comment about 'common knowledge' to me, or which poster you are referring to being the most coherent. You did quote me but I'm not really following your point. In any case, yes, many people will be on WLI long term if not for life.

Gardenservant · 23/02/2025 22:05

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 21:57

Ah, you’ll be ok with this one then because it’s not a new medication.

Too new for me. New is relative.

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 21:57

Gardenservant · 23/02/2025 21:53

As a pharmacist I have a rule never to take new medication unless it would be a matter of life and death. I have seen far too many wonder drugs withdrawn over unexpected side effects after a time. That said, I might take it in about 5 years when facts about side effects will be clearer, I would love to lose weight.

Ah, you’ll be ok with this one then because it’s not a new medication.

Gardenservant · 23/02/2025 21:53

As a pharmacist I have a rule never to take new medication unless it would be a matter of life and death. I have seen far too many wonder drugs withdrawn over unexpected side effects after a time. That said, I might take it in about 5 years when facts about side effects will be clearer, I would love to lose weight.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 21:42

lettyraines · 23/02/2025 20:44

I know what common knowledge means. That poster was one of the most coherent on this thread, so I was surprised to learn she was not aware of this 'common knowledge'.

Ah ok,

lettyraines · 23/02/2025 20:44

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 20:39

common knowledge means most people, not everyone.

I know what common knowledge means. That poster was one of the most coherent on this thread, so I was surprised to learn she was not aware of this 'common knowledge'.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 20:39

lettyraines · 23/02/2025 20:34

This seems to suggest that people imagine they will - whatever brandname or drug they are on - be using the injections for life, not the two years mentioned above for semaglutide.

Yes I think it is common knowledge that wegovy is for two years and mounjaro for life.

common knowledge means most people, not everyone.

lettyraines · 23/02/2025 20:34

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 12:27

People who were obese and are no longer obese due to following a treatment plan including WLI will be entitled to remain on WLI once they reach a healthy BMI in order to maintain the healthy BMI

It's really not that difficult to understand if you think about it for more than a minute. Obesity is a chronic condition - once you have it, it's very hard to lose it. Even losing weight doesn't mean you have lost the tendency to obesity. Compounded with the fact that we live in an obesogenic society it's clear we need a treatment that helps maintain long term treatment for obesity. Time will tell how long people need to maintain for before their bodies no longer tend towards weight gain after a period of obesity, whether that's months, years or never, but there is absolutely no suggestion that anyone who has used WLI to reduce their BMI will no longer be entitled to take it once they reach a healthy BMI.

This seems to suggest that people imagine they will - whatever brandname or drug they are on - be using the injections for life, not the two years mentioned above for semaglutide.

Yes I think it is common knowledge that wegovy is for two years and mounjaro for life.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 20:22

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:28

Anyway, once the patent for Mounjaro expires (in about 20 months, I think?) the cost will drop dramatically (probably somewhere between only £30-£40 per month?).

At which point, these faux concern threads will simply disappear.

No that’s ozempic , mounjaro is about 2036.

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 19:04

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 19:02

Yes, I'm ideally looking for opinions from posters who aren't actually any good at thinking and like to cite The Daily Fail as their reference material.

Or those who have a very vague understanding of the medicine but who like to comment as if they’re experts… Or those whose friend’s auntie’s next door neighbour told them it was really, really dangerous.

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 19:02

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:42

Please make sure you start a thread so we can all give our uninformed opinions on whether any other serious side effects might show up in the future so that pp might have second thoughts over taking such a dangerous medicine! (That’s currently saving her life…)

Yes, I'm ideally looking for opinions from posters who aren't actually any good at thinking and like to cite The Daily Fail as their reference material.

soupyspoon · 23/02/2025 19:00

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:42

Please make sure you start a thread so we can all give our uninformed opinions on whether any other serious side effects might show up in the future so that pp might have second thoughts over taking such a dangerous medicine! (That’s currently saving her life…)

I think I should, its virtually a public duty to ensure people are kept informed and discussion continues.

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 19:00

soupyspoon · 23/02/2025 18:38

Well Im deeply concerned, to the degree Im sitting here with crossed arms, pursed lips and a quizzical eyebrow.

HOW can they justify giving you such a risky med? I mean breast cancer, yada yada yada, these medications just shouldnt be allowed?

Well, at last! I'm so relieved that someone actually cares about me [weeps]

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:42

soupyspoon · 23/02/2025 18:38

Well Im deeply concerned, to the degree Im sitting here with crossed arms, pursed lips and a quizzical eyebrow.

HOW can they justify giving you such a risky med? I mean breast cancer, yada yada yada, these medications just shouldnt be allowed?

Please make sure you start a thread so we can all give our uninformed opinions on whether any other serious side effects might show up in the future so that pp might have second thoughts over taking such a dangerous medicine! (That’s currently saving her life…)

soupyspoon · 23/02/2025 18:38

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 17:55

Yes, I haven't heard a peep from her either, despite my having taken Tamoxifen for several years. You know, the prescribed drug that, whilst protecting you from a breast cancer reoccurance, has also been proven to damage your heart and increase your risk of strokes and uterine cancer!

Presumably the OP doesn't care because I can now comfortably wear size 10 jeans after 6 months on MJ?

I'm deeply hurt.

Well Im deeply concerned, to the degree Im sitting here with crossed arms, pursed lips and a quizzical eyebrow.

HOW can they justify giving you such a risky med? I mean breast cancer, yada yada yada, these medications just shouldnt be allowed?

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:29

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:27

It got deleted but she’s just laughed at my post telling you that - so that should give you an indication of her feelings and the true nature of this entire thread.

Righty O. Still, it's always useful to know which posters aren't very good at thinking.

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:28

Anyway, once the patent for Mounjaro expires (in about 20 months, I think?) the cost will drop dramatically (probably somewhere between only £30-£40 per month?).

At which point, these faux concern threads will simply disappear.

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:27

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:11

Oh no, I missed that. Shame.

It got deleted but she’s just laughed at my post telling you that - so that should give you an indication of her feelings and the true nature of this entire thread.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 18:26

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 17:37

I would suspect that users of semaglutide know that there’s currently a limit for its usage. There isn’t such a limit for tirzepatide.

Yet I've seen people on Ozempic and now Wegovy threads say they intend to take it for life on maintenance doses.

Maybe that 2 year guidance will change to be in line with tirzepatide IF they have the same effects on the body.

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:11

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:01

Oh - you didn’t see what op’s opinion of a size 10 was…

Oh no, I missed that. Shame.

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:01

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 17:55

Yes, I haven't heard a peep from her either, despite my having taken Tamoxifen for several years. You know, the prescribed drug that, whilst protecting you from a breast cancer reoccurance, has also been proven to damage your heart and increase your risk of strokes and uterine cancer!

Presumably the OP doesn't care because I can now comfortably wear size 10 jeans after 6 months on MJ?

I'm deeply hurt.

Oh - you didn’t see what op’s opinion of a size 10 was…

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 17:55

soupyspoon · 22/02/2025 22:19

OP hasnt even 'reached out' to me lately given that Im on medication that leaches calcium out of me and risks osteoporosis in later life.

Does no one care? Wheres my thread?

Yes, I haven't heard a peep from her either, despite my having taken Tamoxifen for several years. You know, the prescribed drug that, whilst protecting you from a breast cancer reoccurance, has also been proven to damage your heart and increase your risk of strokes and uterine cancer!

Presumably the OP doesn't care because I can now comfortably wear size 10 jeans after 6 months on MJ?

I'm deeply hurt.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 17:55

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 17:37

I would suspect that users of semaglutide know that there’s currently a limit for its usage. There isn’t such a limit for tirzepatide.

Yes I think it is common knowledge that wegovy is for two years and mounjaro for life. The link will need updating by the nhs, as they have now approved mounjaro, albeit it starts in the summer via tier 3. It’s a shame it’s only for 300k people a year but they just don’t have the money, yet.

howver the more people take it privately the more pressure comes off the nhs, due to other health conditions needing treatment reducing. I suspect that’s in part why the government is so supportive of the drugs, the proven safety and low risk of the drugs and if you cure the issue and you don’t need to treat the symptoms.

I was being checked monthly by my gp. Taking heavy doses of bp meds, now they are stopped as I’m a healthy weight and bp is fine, and I no longer need to see the doctor, so as a micro example, my private treatment has freed up nhs resources, and that will be multiplied by hundreds of thousands.

and that’s before we start counting a reduction in things like cancer, joint replacement, diabetes, repurcussions of diabetes, heart attack, stroke. And so many more medical problems obese people suffer with.

obesity is one of the most signficant and major deadly diseases we endure as a population, and a large swathe of the population, globally is suffering and living with obesity, when you remove that for the vast majority, safely enable them to be a healthy weight, you by turn make the nhs much more efficient.

it will take time, but the more people who buy it privately the less pressure there is on the nhs, and as new drugs hit the market, and pills, we will see the nhs being able to more widely prescribe, as resources are freed up.