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Trans men are women according to Gender Critical Movement

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ThisPinkWyvern · 22/02/2025 02:04

Under Trump's transgender policy, which echoes the ideology of the Gender Critical Movement, trans women are men and trans men are women. This view denies and rejects as worthless and baseless the lived experience of millions of men and women in the US who identify as trans. As a result of having their lived experience of themself ignored and denied by law, millions of trans men as well as trans women are now experiencing deep psychological trauma and living in abject fear and terror in the US. Many are trying to leave the country because they are so terrified.

The almost total silence of the Gender Critical Movement and it's supporters about the effect that it's ideology has had on those hundreds of thousand of women who self identify as men is deafening.It's whole argument about banning trans women from female public toilets and other ' women only spaces' is based on the argument that denying trans women the right to access these spaces is needed to protect the safety of women and girls. Given the fear, terror and trauma that hundreds of thousands of women( trans men) are now experiencing in the US, as a result of the government putting into practise Gender Critical Movement ideology, the sense of safety and well-being of hundreds of thousands of women has been devastated. This makes the infinitesimally small number of cases where women have been or ever would be assaulted by a trans woman in a women only space pale into insignificance by comparison.

In short, the Gender Critical Movement is directly responsible for harming the well being of hundreds of thousands of WOMEN according to it's own ideology.The damage done by implementing it's ideology makes a sickening mockery of it's claim that it's ideology protects the safety of women and girls.

When the number of men( trans women) in the US who are now living in fear and terror in the US is taken into account as well, the Gender Critical Movement and all those who support it are directly responsible for terrorising millions of people. It is impossible to claim that we are supporting women's rights and protecting the safety of women if we support the Gender Critical Movement.

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Sodthesystem · 22/02/2025 02:32

Many women have internalised mysoginy, mental health issues and history of abuse that makes them want to distance themselves from their biological sex. You help them through therapy. Not by telling them that yes, they are men.

The sky is not green, no matter how many times you say it. Sorry.

Sometimes the truth is painful. But reality is reality. You don't help anyone by lying to them.

RobJamesCollierFor007 · 22/02/2025 02:21

InWalksBarberalla · 22/02/2025 02:16

It's not lived experience to pretend you are the opposite sex. A woman doesn't actually know what's it's like to be a man precisely because she has no lived experience as a man - and vice versa. Luckily the world has had enough of playing along with these trans people's fantasies.

It reminds me of that lady in Washington DC who contained and a spiral 4C perm and claimed to be black. Or that British guy who said he was Korean. I mean, we could all claim to be skinny supermodels, or millionaires, but it doesn't make it reality.

JandamiHash · 22/02/2025 02:17

I love it when a TRA comes on thinking they can school the silly wimmin of mumsnet and doesn’t realise that some of us very competently nailed our colours the mast many years ago, have come up against all manner of debate and insult, and have studied every fibre of society which is affecting by the regressive TRA mindset.

BTW the many people who’ve been assaulted by “transwomen” is most certainly not significant. You don’t get to erase people’s ACTUAL trauma in the name of another person’s fake trauma.

InWalksBarberalla · 22/02/2025 02:16

It's not lived experience to pretend you are the opposite sex. A woman doesn't actually know what's it's like to be a man precisely because she has no lived experience as a man - and vice versa. Luckily the world has had enough of playing along with these trans people's fantasies.

JandamiHash · 22/02/2025 02:14

Also if people are “fearful, traumatised and living in terror” because others won’t pander and play along with their delusions then perhaps some introspection rather than expecting the rest of the world to change, may be a good starting point to deal with this. The second step is cutting the melodramatics. The only people who are allowed to have OTT tantrums when they don’t get their way are toddlers. Not grown adults.

JandamiHash · 22/02/2025 02:12

Women who “identify as men” are welcome into women’s spaces because they’re still women and don’t pose the threat of that men do, because the they’re not men.

See, that was easy wasn’t it?

KnitFastDieWarm · 22/02/2025 02:10

There is no ‘gender critical movement’ and it doesn’t have an ‘ideology’ - there are just people who don’t believe that humans can change sex.

RobJamesCollierFor007 · 22/02/2025 02:10

I'm a bit confused here tbh. How is a transman suffering significant psychological trauma by being told to use a women's bathroom? How does being told to use the bathroom of their birth sex affect their sense of safety ? Women don't usually attack other women.

SquashedSquid · 22/02/2025 02:08

Why do you keep using an apostrophe in, "its"? You do realise that's a contraction of, "it is" and not a possessive?

Either way, trans men are biological women. I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand.