Trans men are women according to Gender Critical Movement

It's not that rare.

Some one with XX chromosones of 6ft 4 ? Really that is vanishingly rare.

They can transition to another gender in law. Therefore whether you're saying gender is or isn't a real thing is a moot point.

If you have nothing constructive to say that helps people who want to change their gender, then perhaps best to say nothing.

@Helleofabore i wasn’t censuring anyone either. I agree with most of your points to be honest. I just don’t feel as passionate about toilets and they are always used as an example.

... is scientifically incorrect.

@Helleofabore i wasn’t censuring anyone either. I agree with most of your points to be honest. I just don’t feel as passionate about toilets and they are always used as an example.

I met a trans teenager who was 6 ft 4 and looked exactly like a teenage boy. It’s fine to think they would be welcome in theory. In practice and in reality they wouldn’t.

Not if the TRAs have anything to do with it!

This

But there is. You , I , anyone can challenge a man entering a women's toilets.

Something was niggling me at the back of my mind and I've just realised what it was. In heraldry, a wyvern is a kind of snake. I wonder what sort of person would choose pink snake as a username?

It's a euphemism for something, alright.

In my opinion we are all going around in circles about it. There is just no way of policing who goes into a toilet unfortunately.

yeh so if you don’t agree with this “group of posters” you are immediately shunned and made to feel like your opinion doesn’t count. I stand by what I said and I’m entitled to my opinion just like the “group”

And anyone is entitled to call out irrational and hypocritical posts you make too 🤷‍♀️ whether it's one person or many.

Hi. This is also an article about intersex in humans. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex

Buck Angel, yes. Buck has that gnarled look and is older. But Jamie Raines still looks female to me despite their height. Everything about their face and mannerisms and way of talking screams female at me. I imagine it would be even more so in real life.

However, most transmen are clearly female. The facial hair would mean a second glance, but it would be pretty obvious once you properly looked.

I would imagine that in the very rare case of a transman passing so well that they were indistinguishable from biological men they would be sensitive enough to the worries of women (female lived experience before transition) not to use female single sex spaces. Perhaps gender neutral spaces would be more appropriate here.

Under Trump's transgender policy, which echoes the ideology of the Gender Critical Movement, trans women are men and trans men are women. This view denies and rejects as worthless and baseless the lived experience of millions of men and women in the US who identify as trans. As a result of having their lived experience of themself ignored and denied by law, millions of trans men as well as trans women are now experiencing deep psychological trauma and living in abject fear and terror in the US. Many are trying to leave the country because they are so terrified.

The almost total silence of the Gender Critical Movement and it's supporters about the effect that it's ideology has had on those hundreds of thousand of women who self identify as men is deafening.It's whole argument about banning trans women from female public toilets and other ' women only spaces' is based on the argument that denying trans women the right to access these spaces is needed to protect the safety of women and girls. Given the fear, terror and trauma that hundreds of thousands of women( trans men) are now experiencing in the US, as a result of the government putting into practise Gender Critical Movement ideology, the sense of safety and well-being of hundreds of thousands of women has been devastated. This makes the infinitesimally small number of cases where women have been or ever would be assaulted by a trans woman in a women only space pale into insignificance by comparison.

In short, the Gender Critical Movement is directly responsible for harming the well being of hundreds of thousands of WOMEN according to it's own ideology.The damage done by implementing it's ideology makes a sickening mockery of it's claim that it's ideology protects the safety of women and girls.

When the number of men( trans women) in the US who are now living in fear and terror in the US is taken into account as well, the Gender Critical Movement and all those who support it are directly responsible for terrorising millions of people. It is impossible to claim that we are supporting women's rights and protecting the safety of women if we support the Gender Critical Movement.

Under Trump's transgender policy, which echoes the ideology of the Gender Critical Movement, trans women are men and trans men are women. This view denies and rejects as worthless and baseless the lived experience of millions of men and women in the US who identify as trans. As a result of having their lived experience of themself ignored and denied by law, millions of trans men as well as trans women are now experiencing deep psychological trauma and living in abject fear and terror in the US. Many are trying to leave the country because they are so terrified.

The almost total silence of the Gender Critical Movement and it's supporters about the effect that it's ideology has had on those hundreds of thousand of women who self identify as men is deafening.It's whole argument about banning trans women from female public toilets and other ' women only spaces' is based on the argument that denying trans women the right to access these spaces is needed to protect the safety of women and girls. Given the fear, terror and trauma that hundreds of thousands of women( trans men) are now experiencing in the US, as a result of the government putting into practise Gender Critical Movement ideology, the sense of safety and well-being of hundreds of thousands of women has been devastated. This makes the infinitesimally small number of cases where women have been or ever would be assaulted by a trans woman in a women only space pale into insignificance by comparison.

In short, the Gender Critical Movement is directly responsible for harming the well being of hundreds of thousands of WOMEN according to it's own ideology.The damage done by implementing it's ideology makes a sickening mockery of it's claim that it's ideology protects the safety of women and girls.

When the number of men( trans women) in the US who are now living in fear and terror in the US is taken into account as well, the Gender Critical Movement and all those who support it are directly responsible for terrorising millions of people. It is impossible to claim that we are supporting women's rights and protecting the safety of women if we support the Gender Critical Movement.