Scared of what labour will do

Jonathan Reynolds.

Indeed…

@Rummly "Ah, are you making a distinction between LinkedIn, statements to the commons and a website, and a formal CV?"

I don't understand- you said someone claimed to be a solicitor and I asked you who.

@Rummly "I want to be absolutely clear: I have no doubt the Tories are just as bad. But it was Labour that banged on and on and on about ethics and probity. Surely you can see why the hypocrisy is so nauseating"
I would- if Starmer had not acted quickly to get rid of people who have done wrong thibgs.

Incidentally- in what way does Louise Haigh's spent conviction disqualify her for being a Minister of State?

Can you imagine the howls of outrage from Labour if the Tories had made this eminently sensible change?

“People will die, international pariah, warmongers” etc etc etc.

Looks like it’s ok to play fast and loose with the law / reality if you’re Labour.

Stop nitpicking. I did it once when I pointed out that six years is not 'nearly a decade' and I the error of my ways was pointed out.
Six years, ten years ... whose counting?
LinkedIn. CV. Who cares?
Not Labour supporters, that's for sure. Or at least not when it's Labour politicians being criticised.
@CurlewKate would say exactly the same if it was a Tory, you know she would.

Oh he’s being sensible here.. About time. Whilst the students and ideologues can say no (I would have when I was 21), this is a must. Otherwise the uk is a sitting duck. Time to get real.

Starmer announces biggest hike in defence spending since Cold War – slashing overseas aid to pay for it
The Prime Minister is making a rare statement to the Commons about defence and security amid growing calls to ramp up spending due to the crisis in Ukraine and Donald Trump's interventions
Read in The Mirror: https://apple.news/Ao3ScZGKoQzy2t3aQoDHIUQ

Not at all. But that’s not how the law on spent convictions and the right not to disclose, work.

Labour supporters only see what they want to see and disregard the rest. What can you do..

Ah, are you making a distinction between LinkedIn, statements to the commons and a website, and a formal CV?

🙄 you’re embarrassing yourself. I did quote. (And) The ref was in the post above it, but I thought the link was obvious.. I guess it’s only there if you want to see it huh.

@Rummly "Any dishonesty offence is enough to land a lawyer in very hot water, and I imagine the same is true for plenty of jobs. Haigh was a Minister of State for God’s sake. Why are trying to minimise this?"

I'm not trying to minimise it. But it was a SPENT conviction. Are you saying that shouldn't be a thing?

@Rummly "I don’t think falsely claiming to be a solicitor counts as a ‘tweak'"

No, neither do I. Who did that?

Tories want to means test state pension as well. If you want real benefits and structures for normal people you have to vote for actually left wing parties like greens etc. People who aren't rich or senior in the private sector have been terrified since 2010 under 14 years of misery. Who speaks for us? Elon Musk? Don't make me laugh.

I don’t think falsely claiming to be a solicitor counts as a ‘tweak’.

Your uncle just needs to pass the farm on 7 years before his death and it will be exempt from the reduced rate of inheritance tax. If its under £1m it won't qualify anyway. You may be worrying about nothing.

Not being able to pay for a ticket is not fraud. That’s a very poor example.

If you were intentionally fare dodging then you were committing a crime. As are people who defraud insurance companies.

To judge by what’s been posted of Haigh’s offence, she defrauded her employer of over £1,200.

Any dishonesty offence is enough to land a lawyer in very hot water, and I imagine the same is true for plenty of jobs. Haigh was a Minister of State for God’s sake. Why are trying to minimise this?

I want to be absolutely clear: I have no doubt the Tories are just as bad. But it was Labour that banged on and on and on about ethics and probity. Surely you can see why the hypocrisy is so nauseating?

Are you a goer for insurance fraud?

What's your approach for self scan at supermarkets?

I apologise @Katypp -I tagged the wrong poster. I meant @Kittygolightlyy.

Incidentally- the moral high ground on this thread seems to be entirely occupied by those who have never tweaked their CVs, or added something to an insurance claim.

Sorry to knock you off your moral high ground, but I've quoted no one as far as I remember, certainly not extensively.
Just the thoughts in my own head 😀

@Kittygolightlyy not sure what that emoji means. But you will notice that I have addressed every example outlined on this thread and am happy to discuss any others. But detail and facts don't appear to be your thing....

😑

@Kittygolightlyy "
"I understand that the Labour faithfuls will cling on to anything but really, grow up and admit the party are an incompetent and corrupt shambles so far"

I won't admit that because it's not true. But give me some examples and I will happily talk about them. And accept if they show incompetence or corruption.

@Alexandra2001

I’m not trying to make a point.

I have made a point.

Over my last few posts here, using other refd sources also. It is quite clear. I can repeat if you’re slow this morning (happens to us all).

’Labour set itself a very high bar on ethics in government

In the years running up to the 2024 general election, Starmer and his party focused strongly on ethics in government, criticising many Conservative ministers for apparent ethical failings and promising to establish a new ethics and integrity commission.

.. it … looks as if this government does not fully understand how ministers’ actions look to its external critics. Having been so quick to loudly criticise the last government for its perceived failings on ethics and integrity.. Starmer and his team need to show that they truly understand the importance of meeting the standards that they promised to uphold once in office.‘
(IfG)

I understand that the Labour faithfuls will cling on to anything but really, grow up and admit the party are an incompetent and corrupt shambles so far. I hope they get better, I really do.

At least they’ve rowed back on making self ID easier I suppose.