Scared of what labour will do

So is yours. Nobody mentioned voting Tory, the post said Tory supporters. It’s so interesting that the accusations of tribalism come from the biggest tribalists.

Quite.

most tory supporting posters on this thread will not, in a million years, say a word against the Tories and Labour can never do any good.

😂 what? You have zero idea if any body on this thread votes Tory (unless I’ve missed a post where someone has said ‘I vote Tory’).

You will also see on this very thread that there has been praise for Labour increasing defence funding.

Your statement is classic though.

The thread title is "Scared of what Labour will do"

Its not really or shouldn't be about how or what Starmer did for his children 4 or 5 years plus ago.... just a diversion because most of what Labour is doing is as good as it can be... our economic position is very very bad.

@Rummly "But my point was that in answer to your defence of Starmer that he lived where he does now before having children, he apparently had access to other expensive means of ensuring a good learning environment for his child, to put it euphemistically."

This is so baffling. Unless I'm missing something, Starmer's child went to a family friend's house to revise to get away from the stress caused by his father being prime minister. The fact that a friend is a millionaire is irrelevant. Would you have been so exercised if he had gone to granny's? Or if the friend was an estate agent? Was there any significance in the fact that it was in Covent Garden?

It’s not petty. It’s only mentioned here because the issue of schools, catchment and privilege came up. As you say, there are a lot of other, much bigger problems with this government. But they weren’t quite so relevant to the point.

Appreciated!

Yes i ve had several criticisms of Labour policy and on Starmer et al taking freebies, even if within the rules.

@Rummly You may agree on some Labour policies and have criticised the Tories too but you re an outlier on this, most tory supporting posters on this thread will not, in a million years, say a word against the Tories and Labour can never do any good.

Labour have left some fairly large open goals for you and others to criticise them on.... instead we get this nonsense.

Absolutely. 👏🏻

Thank you. It seems it was the use of the penthouse for political purposes that went undeclared. So I’m happy to accept that he did declare the use generally.

But the revision story is obvious rubbish: he used the penthouse for weeks after the end of the exams.

It wasn’t declared at an over-rate either.

My point is that in times of national crisis and Trumps election has certainly caused that... dragging up events from 4/5 years ago, of a fairly inconsequential nature, is petty.

What is it meant to constructively achieve? do you think Starmer is going to step down over this?

Labour have left some fairly large open goals for you and others to criticise them on.... instead we get this nonsense.

Do you not think this slavish support argument is wearing a bit thin? I’ve seen the poster you accuse of this criticise plenty - unlike you she disagrees with the WFA cut for a start. I personally think the threshold is too low and that the two child benefit cap should go. I’m disappointed so far, this isn’t what I was hoping for.

Unlike you I don’t have to be a slavish supporter of this government.

Agree with @Rummly on the last few posts, not everyone has to go on about how well Labour are doing

How do you know that opponents of Labour don’t support the government where it’s right to do so?

By way of example, I support the increase in defence spending (at face value: if it turns out to be creative accounting I’ll be critical), cuts to combat welfare dependency, WFA cut, the house building programme, prison reform, support for Israel.

Unlike you I don’t have to be a slavish supporter of this government.

He used it from May to early July 2024 and declared it in September. The rules say declarations must be made in the relevant year. According to the Mail.

Poking fun at Labour antics, falsehoods and hypocrisy is no more tedious than the posts by the party’s cheerleaders. Particularly the one’s that amount to “But Boris…”

You still don’t get it. Never mind.

You'd like to think, at times of national/international crisis, the Tory supporters might try and row in behind the Govt... dream on...

I don't have a problem with "securing a good learning environment" in the shape of somewhere where his son could spend a few weeks revising in peace and quiet which was not available at home due to the election. In those circumstances, which of us wouldn't take up an offer like that from a friend?

It is really quite tedious the way people scratch around for little things to beat Labour up for in a desperate effort to distract from the staggering amounts of corruption and incompetence shown by the Conservatives over 14 years. "Look over there" is never a convincing argument.

That misses the point spectacularly.

And are you sure there was any declaration at the time? I’m very happy to be corrected if there was.

Ffs, it was for a couple of hours after school. Are you seriously this petty? And it was declared at a hugely exaggerated value, unlike Johnson’s occupancy of the Bamfords’ Knightsbridge property worth £30k a month which he declared as worth £10k.

Um, yes. Since you’re well aware of the story I’m not sure what you don’t understand.

Personally, I don’t think the revision ‘justification’ was precious. I think it was bogus.

But my point was that in answer to your defence of Starmer that he lived where he does now before having children, he apparently had access to other expensive means of ensuring a good learning environment for his child, to put it euphemistically.

So what? wasn't required to declare it and no action over CV rules taken... as none were broken, hence he wasn't even investigated, let alone a fine... unlike the Tory leadeship at the time.

We are facing Europe's and the UKs biggest challenges on trade and peace in decades.... instead we get "Kier had a fucking beer" nonsense.

Is this really all you've got? as opposition party supporters.... no ideas, no suggestions... no wonder really, with Badenoch as your leader.

Its almost as bad as "Corbyn was going to scrap Trident" even though he never became PM and he made a commitment to keep Trident!!

@BIossomtoes "Would some allowing your child to revise somewhere quiet because your house was besieged by journalists be a “freebie”?"

Also "rich man has rich friends" shock.

@Kittygolightlyy Oh, I assumed you didn't live in the catchment of an excellent school. Fair enough. Then I don't see any issue with your kids getting places in it. Definition of a non story.

Would some allowing your child to revise somewhere quiet because your house was besieged by journalists be a “freebie”?