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Scared of what labour will do

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Wantachangefor2024 · 22/02/2025 01:58

Is anyone else terrified of what labour will enforce. The tax on farmers. Will they means test pip? Will they tax state pension more? What else will they do and where will it all end. They ruthlessly without no care took away the winter fuel allowance. Means testing and taxing state pension would massively impact my family

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4C0rners · 22/02/2025 07:56

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 22/02/2025 07:51

Of course it’s not, but you clearly weren’t following the numerous mn threads if you think that’s all people were doing.

The only people starting threads about school fees were wealthy people privately educating their children. It’s a forum not a place to post diatribes workout response. If you don’t want the 94% not privately educating their kids to comment don’t put up endless threads and don’t put them in AIBU.

spuddy4 · 22/02/2025 07:56

Here for the Tory/Russian bot bingo. Didn't take long for a full house.

ploppydoppy · 22/02/2025 07:56

What's needed is a government and particularly a chancellor who can set out a clear plan and then start to get traction very quickly. Unfortunately we have someone who seems to believe a plan simply constitutes really, really wanting growth to happen and that she can manifest this by saying "growth" a lot, all while enacting policies which are anti-growth.

We never recovered from the 08 crash! Growth is very difficult in our economic landscape, let's hear your ideas @indigovapour ?

Riverswims · 22/02/2025 07:55

Mercurial123 · 22/02/2025 02:10

How many posts can there be on this?! You must have been terrified when the Conservatives destroyed the country with their 14 years of cutbacks, greed, chaos, and corruption?

£2 bus fares helped everyone tho and their inheritance rules were fairer, Labour are running farming thereby eating into the ground 🤦🏽‍♀️

Neurodiversitydoctor · 22/02/2025 07:55

Apologies OAPs used to have a different personal allowance:

Pensioners used to enjoy a higher tax-free allowance than the rest of the population (though the Conservatives’ statement makes no mention of this). The higher allowance for pensioners ended under the Coalition government. Back in 2010–11, the personal allowance was £6,475 for people aged under 65, compared with £9,490 for those aged 65 to 75 (and £9,640 for people 75+). In real, inflation-adjusted terms, the current personal allowance for pensioners is about 10% lower than the one they enjoyed then, whereas the allowance for working-age people is 30% higher, even after recent freezes.

From this document :

ifs.org.uk/articles/new-triple-locked-personal-allowance-pensioners

dottiehens · 22/02/2025 07:55

Alexandra2001 · 22/02/2025 07:51

They messed up on WFA but on other changes, they've done ok, new legislation on child abuse for example, more emergency dental appointments, extra NHS appointments, i ve personally benefited from these.

We aren't in the famous Tory predicted recession either, consumer spend is up too.

They are planning to cut out of work benefits, not in the weekly amounts but in encouraging people to work and why not? being on benefits shouldn't be a choice.

Their biggest challenge is x channel migration but its still lower than the highest numbers seen under the Tories.

Loads to do but the only doom n gloom seems to be from Tory supporters.

So still can’t link this with Russian propaganda.
I am glad you are doing well even when families like us have been bled to the point of leaving next year.

Katypp · 22/02/2025 07:55

Mercurial123 · 22/02/2025 02:10

How many posts can there be on this?! You must have been terrified when the Conservatives destroyed the country with their 14 years of cutbacks, greed, chaos, and corruption?

I have questions.
Why do posters always do this? What has the last 14 years got to do with how the OP feels right now?
Why are people's fears minimised like this because it's Labour making the cuts?
Would you brush the cuts to WFP and hints of benefits Reform if it was the Tories making them?
Why is 'the Tories were worse' used over and over again on MN to shut down debate on what a hash Labour have made so far?
A wider question: When will Labour supporters own the mistakes their party has made instead of blaming to Tories for everything that's going wrong?
Yet happy to pat themselves on the back for any positives, even though it's really got little to do with their competence? I am thinking of the increased NHS appointments here.
Anyone got any answers?

Midnightlove · 22/02/2025 07:54

hattie43 · 22/02/2025 06:44

The welfare budget is unsustainable, I'd be very pleased to see it cut . Not by reducing benefits for those in need but culling benefits for the workshy and this ubiquitous mental health claimants .

Absolutely, that's who should be targeted, not those working

4C0rners · 22/02/2025 07:53

So you weren’t ever worried about the Tories?🤔

100PercentFaithful · 22/02/2025 07:53

Seriously OP. Do you not remember what the Tories did? They have decimated the NHS, education, social care, local services.
Of course some people only care about themselves but Labour at least think about the vulnerable in society.

IVFmumoftwo · 22/02/2025 07:53

IWantToGetOffHelp · 22/02/2025 02:33

Well this is what everyone voted for! Everyone cheered when my family was affected by the 20% VAT. How I’ve laughed now all the PIP and pension people are quaking in their boots! It’s not nice is it?!

They more than likely can barely afford their bills and heating being disabled or heating. I am sure you can manage a little extra tax like most private paying parents. Disabled and pensioners are some of the most vulnerable in our society.

dottiehens · 22/02/2025 07:51

They also brought private schools VAT two terms forward than they promised just to raise inflation and put a number of children and their families in distress by forcing some to leave school mid year.

Alexandra2001 · 22/02/2025 07:51

dottiehens · 22/02/2025 07:44

Wrong threat? Can’t people discuss genuine worries as seen how Labour has been doing?

They messed up on WFA but on other changes, they've done ok, new legislation on child abuse for example, more emergency dental appointments, extra NHS appointments, i ve personally benefited from these.

We aren't in the famous Tory predicted recession either, consumer spend is up too.

They are planning to cut out of work benefits, not in the weekly amounts but in encouraging people to work and why not? being on benefits shouldn't be a choice.

Their biggest challenge is x channel migration but its still lower than the highest numbers seen under the Tories.

Loads to do but the only doom n gloom seems to be from Tory supporters.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 22/02/2025 07:51

CurlewKate · 22/02/2025 07:22

@Iwishicouldflyhigh "
"It was the gloating about vat which was hard to take…..and mean spirited"

To be clear-saying that you think putting VAT on school fees is a good idea and supporting the policy is not "gloating".

Of course it’s not, but you clearly weren’t following the numerous mn threads if you think that’s all people were doing.

DoorToNowhere · 22/02/2025 07:50

Catlover1705 · 22/02/2025 07:41

It's their lack of empathy which is scary. Say what you like about the Tories, but at least they didn't radiate gloom.

You can't be serious? They definitely did!

indigovapour · 22/02/2025 07:50

I'm mainly scared of what Labour are doing and will do because absolutely none of it makes anyone's lives any better and this, I fear, means Reform genuinely might win the next election.

What's needed is a government and particularly a chancellor who can set out a clear plan and then start to get traction very quickly. Unfortunately we have someone who seems to believe a plan simply constitutes really, really wanting growth to happen and that she can manifest this by saying "growth" a lot, all while enacting policies which are anti-growth.

The cash ISA proposal is a real barometer for me. If she cuts the allowance then there can be no doubt that she's totally clueless and needs to go.

ManchesterLu · 22/02/2025 07:49

Creepybookworm · 22/02/2025 02:19

Do you have a farm that will.be liable for inheritance tax?

Even if she doesn't, do you understand that this will affect ALL of us, if farmers can no longer afford to farm?

Meadowfinch · 22/02/2025 07:49

Practicepracticepracticeagain · 22/02/2025 07:36

They will increase taxes and piss away billions in public money, same as every other government. I have to admit to having less faith in this lot than usual because none of them seem actually qualified or experienced enough for the job. There is Rachel, who’s qualifications and experience don’t seem to add up, Angela who as Minister for housing doesn’t seem to actually know anything about housing and Jonathan Reynolds who as Secretary of State for Business and Trade has never actually run a business. Nor is he a solicitor, like he claimed?
In the real world such inexperienced people would not be put in those positions but its politics so 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ They are all as bad as each other.

And Steve Reed, minister with responsibility for DEFRA, who is MP for Streatham, that well known farming heartland, and knows precisely nothing about rural affairs.

ploppydoppy · 22/02/2025 07:45

I really don't think anyone earning over six figures needs help, do you !

wage stagnation & cliff edges do matter

Mespher · 22/02/2025 07:45

Kendodd · 22/02/2025 07:40

Yes I am worried.
But the country is fucked (not Labour's fault).I hope they look at inheritance tax or wealth tax rather that further reduce the money working people have to stretch thinly already.

but you don't mean working people do you, not all working people, not small business owners. Which working people do you mean.

dottiehens · 22/02/2025 07:44

HardenYourHeart · 22/02/2025 07:30

Russian propaganda

Wrong threat? Can’t people discuss genuine worries as seen how Labour has been doing?

dottiehens · 22/02/2025 07:41

Yes, very worried.

Catlover1705 · 22/02/2025 07:41

It's their lack of empathy which is scary. Say what you like about the Tories, but at least they didn't radiate gloom.

Kendodd · 22/02/2025 07:40

Yes I am worried.
But the country is fucked (not Labour's fault).I hope they look at inheritance tax or wealth tax rather that further reduce the money working people have to stretch thinly already.

Alexandra2001 · 22/02/2025 07:37

Wantachangefor2024 · 22/02/2025 02:39

Rachel Reeves will claim she got an A* in Maths, in reality most likely a D. She’ll be claiming she was an astronaut for nasa next

Why are you so disparaging towards the UKs first female Chancellor? Were you so scathing towards Hunt or Sunak and their prior failed businesses and waste/fraud of billions in Covid support loans?

Reeves didn't slash National Insurance by 4% costing the country £10billion per year.... thats on Hunt.... Reeves has to plug that £10billion... £10billion would take Defence spending to 2.5% and provide NHS dentistry for all...

On IHT and farms, how did they manage pre 1992? before then, they paid IHT in full and within 6 months!!! Not 20% and 10 years to pay.....

Farmers can also spend the next year or so, taking advice on how to mitigate IHT, instead of blocking roads and delaying emergency vehicles in London and other major cities.

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