Scared of what labour will do

You are lucky you could go to college, obviously from a fairly well off family, I had to leave school at 16 in the 70s and get a job so I could contribute towards household expenses, no further education for me, however free it was.

When university was free you mean?

As someone who’s probably around the same age as you I’m frankly appalled by your posts. The world we grew up in doesn’t exist any more, it’s way harder for young people now than it was for us. This kind of sanctimony is the reason our generation has the reputation it does. Talk about reinforcing a stereotype.

Well, in the 80s i got free evening classes, free college education, free books, free parking at college and the local hospital too....it was the norm.... in fact, as a mature student, i got over £600 per term.

My DD now has 45k of debt after 3 years in Uni and pays £1200 per year in parking charges.

But oh how we pulled ourselves with only our boot laces for support!!!

When was young we invested in ourselves I just worked harder did extra education. There were no special handouts help or assistance we both had two jobs. It’s easy to bleat but harder to work.

🙄 Yes, the only thing that has changed is people's want to work harder. Sanctimonious twaddle.

Prince Charles? Did the death of a previous Monarch pass you by?

When was young we invested in ourselves I just worked harder did extra education. There were no special handouts help or assistance we both had two jobs. It’s easy to bleat but harder to work.

Just pause a moment to think those of you that will become pensioners will you enjoy having your funds taken away. It’s easy to look up and be jealous.

They won't have the funds to take away in the first place 😆. It's not jealous to question the lack of investment in younger people.

Interesting read here. I am now one of the hated pensioners that are comfortable. How did I get here it was planning and living frugally, second hand furniture or no furniture, ensuring I could afford the things I bought and building up assets for the future. So now I am where I am people seem to hate it, I pay tax like everyone else but it would appear that some want more of my money than I am willing to part with. When I do spend I use local businesses that helps the economy, if you take us out of the equation who will employ all the local tradesmen they could lose 25 to 50 percent of their work. I might as well not have planned all those years. Just pause a moment to think those of you that will become pensioners will you enjoy having your funds taken away. It’s easy to look up and be jealous.

Actually we don’t have a higher personal allowance, it’s £12,570 like everyone else. Many of us have pensions well below that, the old basic pension for women born before 1953 (like me), and men born before 1951, is around £200 a month less than that of younger pensioners.

Old basic SP £169.50 per week, New SP £221.20. Each time they increase, the gap gets wider. No government plans to equalise them.

Someone i know has been unemployed for 3 years, he is 28, before then he was jumping from college course to course, he has never worked.... MH/Anxiety

He has recently started to attend some therapy sessions, funded by the state, that has enabled him to start a work experience program at M&S of all places!

This work placement is supported by Prince Charles.

Its a start, people cannot be allowed to fester at home for decades.

Its not just the assessment, its the support put in place after this.

If Liz Kendal can crack this particular nut, then all credit to her.

Yes it must be rubbish working a full week for minimum wage.

Yes, there is definitely an increase in a wider feeling of hopelessness and younger people do seem to have more mental health disorders. Although again maybe this was always there but it was covered up, masked by alcohol etc.

I have a house, decent job & I don't feel particularly positive

Ah yes, the weekly Labour bashing thread. A bit tone deaf given the week of news we've just had, don't you think? And true to form, OP posts until roughly page 2 and then trots off.

Bit of both. There was the ‘bad back’ in the 1990s as the easiest illness to fake, and that trend has certainly changed to mental health, but I can also see that people are finding life tough. Yes it must be rubbish working a full week for minimum wage.

No.

You don’t have to invest for years. Our savings are in stocks and shares ISAs which have far better yields than the cash variety and the money can be withdrawn any time. The Treasury wants to encourage investment in these ISAs and it wouldn’t surprise me if the threshold was raised on them at the same time that it was reduced on cash ISAs.

This. It’s so frustrating when people have no critical thinking skills whatsoever.

"Baumberg Geiger says the overall welfare bill, as a proportion of GDP, has changed little since 2007 so it is wrong to say benefits spending is out of control. It is true, however, that a greater share of welfare spending is on incapacity and disability benefits."

Is it to be expected that we are more unhealthy after a pandemic, years of no investment?

Many PIP claimants are in work.

I am not sure how you reduce sick benefits without it resulting in increased costs in other areas.

The people who are the farmers enemy here isn’t the Labour government but the likes of james Dyson and Jeremy Clarkson. Rich guys trying to avoid IHT pile into agricultural land pushing land values up so high real farmers can’t afford to buy it and forcing Labour to close this ‘loophole’ which was originally meant to help farmers rightfully avoid IHT. Jeremy and James are farmers enemies, not their friends.

Right back at you.

It’s actually not rude or smug to disagree with the op and histrionics to make a point.

I am glad you are doing well even when families like us have been bled to the point of leaving next year.

Can i ask what being bled means to you in this context? Genuine not goady question. Is it worries of what you think is to come, or have you already seen a significant drop in income since Labour has been in power, other than VAT on school fees?

we need to take another look at sickness benefits.

Do you think the increase is down to socioeconomic factors or just more chancers?

Just because you are not bothered about the WFA being taken away it doesn't make it right. Slowly but surely there will be some new policy that will affect you in the end and I have no doubt others will say they have no problem with it because it hasn't altered their life.

Yep. There's a few groups to go

Yup. Basic rate tax is about 10p per £ higher. You can’t keep wanting the rich to fund public services as there aren’t enough of them.

I don’t t suggest that.

I would like to see a more robust mechanism for MH assessments.

I just don’t see how it can be done.