Scared of what labour will do

Really?

Reeves' last set of tax rises equate to roughly half of that and have had a huge economic impact (much of which is still to feed through) and your position is that a hole in tax revenues requiring more tax rises/ cuts double the size of the one's she made in October would not be "significant"?

And that is without considering the wider economic effect of losing these people who set up businesses and drive growth and employ others and therefore generated a lot more tax revenue than that indirectly.

Economically illiterate.

Because farm land is part of our national food security and if farmers have to sell off chunks of their land in order to pay inheritance tax and that land ends up getting built on or used for something other than farming, then that can’t be a good thing.

I was listening to LBC on the radio yesterday and someone commented on how high the cost of fresh food is in the US (in part due to the 2023 farm bill). They have some examples such as bag of carrots costing $8 and a single steak $20. Conversely unhealthy junk food is relatively cheap and this is why a lot of Americans are obese. If our farmers are hammered financially then this affects all of us. We are already in the midst of a cost of living crisis.

Although the farmer owns the land he or she farms, it is the country’s farm land in a way because it’s what provides us with our food security and for that reason, and think the farming community needs to be supported and certain areas of land protected and designated only for farming purposes so we don’t end up losing it. We can’t just rely on imports for everything we need.

Ok so what you are saying is that the people trying to cross by small boats are not entitled to be here. That's fine. In which case I stand by what I am saying. They are not entitled to be here. Our country is entitled to protect our borders. So if they want to be daft enough to get into a small boat and potentially drown themselves then that is up to them. They are adults - the can choose to do what they want. The same way we can choose to defend our borders and refuse them access. We are not making them drown. They are doing that all by themselves.

I mean if I went to a country where British People are unwanted (and the recent news story about the couple arrested in Iran shows there are plenty places we are not wanted) I'd likely end up in Jail or worse. So i don't do it because I know the consequences and I don't want to end up arrested. I know I am not wanted there.

If we stop picking them up and letting them in, they will stop coming. It's just common sense. The rules we have is to protect our own citizens no? Or do they not matter. Our Island is bursting at the seams.

I think we have enough problems of our own at the moment don't you think. Homelessness, lots of children in temporary one room places, mental health issues and no services, no access to gp's without a long wait and no ambulances no matter how serious your emergency. Inflation up and growth stalled. People in pain with their teeth because they can't afford a dentist. People using foodbanks because they can't afford food. These are all issues I care about far more than someone trying to sneak into our country without permission and being daft enough to potentially harm themselves.

They are an absolute shit show. As predicted and now confirmed.

At least four years. Our electoral cycle is five years. Labour can’t ruin the country, the Tories have already done that.

The election is three years away, with campaigning starting in two. This time can be used wisely for other parties to really rebuild and prepare.
We can only hope Labour don’t completely ruin the country in the meantime. I am expecting a massive clampdown on welfare regardless of party.

No they aren't. There's the small matter of National Insurance that they don't pay because the government still pretends that it's a contributory system.

Polling now is irrelevant. There’s another four years or so until we have another election. That’s an eternity in politics.

I don't doubt that there will be a majority for the right, the question for me is how the vote on the right is split. This made me go to the Electoral Calculus website, they have this current prediction, if the tories get a lot of 'their' seats back and reform take the places that could never vote tory but are typically white working class then maybe we swing right. But they can also cancel each other out and let labour hang on in some seats. They currently predict a Reform Tory coalition.

A month ago I might have agreed with you. I suspect that four years of watching the US car crash unfold will have the opposite effect. It will be interesting to see what happens in Germany tomorrow.

I think the country might take a swing to the right eventually.Like Europe has.

Usualy Labour come in when the economy is good, them coming in when it's bad and trying to tax us to prosperity is awful. But with Reform splitting the right, I'm not sure who is going to win next time. I just hope they are economically literate.

I looked the book up- John la Carre, a very good author of fiction. Not my taste though.

I understand now, you were offended that I disagreed with the bollocks you posted, so rather than debate and try to back up what you had written with facts (not fiction), you thought you would attack my user name instead. Very bigly, amazing debate skills there.

Personally, I prefer facts.

Pensioners pay slightly less as they don't pay national insurance.

That wouldn't be my problem.

Do you not thinking making lots of people homeless will increase costs in other areas? eg crime, healthcare, social services

So you would see people destitute and homeless, so the defence budget can be increased? It makes you wonder what we would be defending.... certainly not a compassionate society.
It would be defending the rich. Says it all, really.

Which could be put to better use. Like defence.

Of course it is. It's public money.

So not your problem if they stay on benefits either.

That wouldn't be my problem.

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I know. It really scares me.

But it still means that this person is getting public money to top up their income to equal somebody whose job pays £60k a year. Not on IMHO.

So what do you suggest?