Scared of what labour will do

Indeed! It looks like they have given up with 'smash the gangs'. It's now 'smash the migrants' whilst filming it for clicks.

'Difficult decisions'

It's ok if it's to someone else

@Convolvulus how many millions is Labour spending instead on the same asylum issue?

Struggling with basic definitions? Can I recommend the use of a dictionary?

Tough decision? Is that lefty speak for politics of envy?

To say nothing of the fact that they were still proposing to throw millions at nonsense like Rwanda while happily brushing the PPE scandal under the carpet.

Well they are not in power are they! Labour are so that's who we need to hold to account.

They didn't keep their manifesto promises when they were in power, and I'm sure they had no intention of doing so this time round even if by some miracle they had won the election.

Seriously, was anyone under any illusion that Labour wouldn't have to make some very tough decisions given the shitshow they inherited?

Jonny Reynolds is catching up to her.

Maybe the tories should have done what Labour did and just not bother putting their plans in their manifesto eh? Where was WFA? Farmer IHT? Employer NICs? What page were they on when asking for our votes? Why does Reeves think that taking a scythe to small business improves tax receipts? How many relaunches have we seen from this inept government that you so admire?
Whatabout the tories no longer holds water.

Has anyone been proven to lie on their CV as much as Reeves?

@Hamilton6382 "For the first time ever I feel as if the government hates me"

Why?

Some of her decisions haven't been great

For the first time ever I feel as if the government hates me.

I doubt it. He must be incredibly relieved not to be faced with breaking his manifesto promises and looking equally incompetent. I doubt anyone would appear competent in the face of this mess.

@Katypp "I am still aghast at the policies Labour are getting away with tbh. If the Tories had implemented some of them the very posters who are nodding sagely about grown-uos being in chargexwoukd be shouting from the rooftops."

Like what? Apart VAT on private schools and IT on high value farms-which have been discussed endlessly already? And I don't quite understand what you mean by "getting away with" . You seem to be implying some sort of clandestine policy by stealth.....

I think Hunt wakes up every morning and laughs his arse off at the incompetence of the current Chancellor.

Hunt must wake up every morning heaving a sigh of relief that he’s no longer chancellor. It’s beyond naive to think the economic situation would be any different regardless of the colour of government. It’s very interesting that the opposition presents no alternative policies. They were offering tax cuts, ffs. Where were they planning to find the money for those?

Same @Katypp has it re business and the responses on here

What policies? WFA aside, which was just silly.

I think whoever got in, would still face the economic hurdles Reeves faces, un funded compensation bills, independent review body pay rises, employee NI cuts... increasing defence spend... NHS waiting lists... public services collapsing.

All need vast amounts of public money, that money has to be raised either through borrowing or taxes.... it cannot wait for long term growth, something which escaped the Tories in over 14 years.

Agree with both of you
@YouLookFabulousDarlingFabulous
@Katypp

so our goverment who we (the people) elected to rule our country and make big decisions on what is best for us wants us to think of the small boats/all immigrants as illegal (per your post)

Ok so they obviously don't want them here. Otherwise why do they want voters to think badly of them.

So the goverment does not want them here and you said yourself the country is full so surely discouraging them is what we want.

I mean if our country is full surely common sense says we've taken as many as we can cope with now so sorry that's it. Not sure what is 'thick' about that.

Did you or someone close to you come across on a small boat that you are defending them so much? Else why are you encouraging more when in your own words 'the country is full'

Mumsnet is full of threads with people suffering from eviction, temporary accomodation, being humiliated because they have to use food banks, having their child with mental health issues but can't access help, having an elderly parent ill and being unable to get an ambulance or a care home.

You're right though. We should keep taking in more people by whatever means they arrive.

A few years ago I donated quite a few thousand to various dog charities. Why because I like dogs and I could afford it. Now I donate less (or actually at the moment not at all). Why? I still like dogs. I still want to help them but I am struggling myself. You can't help others when you are depleted yourself.

However you have given me hope as according to you the goverment is actually doing all sorts to stop immigrants that I didn't know about so that has cheered me up. I thought our goverment was pretty spineless and not looking after the interests of their citizens but maybe they are tougher than I gave them credit for. So good news.

Endlessly bouncing back 'the Tories were worse' as many have on this thread is not addressing the op's question.
Is it deliberate?
The OP is concerned about where we are going right here and now. She doesn't want to reflect on the last 14 years.
For what it's worth, I used to own a business and if I still owned it, I would without a doubt be more concerned now than I ever was under the Tories. Of course, in the eyes of a lot of Labour fans, business ( which pays for the public sector) is bad so my business is irrelevant.
I am still aghast at the policies Labour are getting away with tbh. If the Tories had implemented some of them the very posters who are nodding sagely about grown-uos being in chargexwoukd be shouting from the rooftops.
I find it utterly bizarre to be honest.

@Wantachangefor2024
"I never felt anxiety before over a governments decisions and I really feel under labour we could see cuts far greater than we’ve ever seen"

With the greatest of respect-were you paying attention when the Tories were in power?

According to people who weren’t born then. Inflation at 24%, interest rates at 10.75% and basic rate income tax of 33% with another 9% NI on top is a very strange state of affairs to describe as “good times”. The only thing remotely good thing about them was the lack of amateur landlords with mortgages on their property and fair rent determined by legislation with the right of appeal by tenants.