Scared of what labour will do

Alexandra2001
Saying you worked at the BoE for 6 years instead of 5 years 6 months

BBC
In a 2021 magazine interview, which she subsequently posted on X, [Reeves] said: "I spent a decade working as an economist at the Bank of England and loved it."

In a speech to the Labour Party Business Conference in February last year, Reeves said: "I spent the best part of a decade as an economist at the Bank of England."

She said the same thing in a speech at a CEO summit in July 2022, and in a video posted on her Facebook page in the same month.

The claim was also repeated in a Labour party document last year which stated that she spent "most of the first decade of her career at the Bank of England".

As she had already started at HBOS by the spring of 2006, her time at the central bank only amounted to five and a half years. This included nearly a year studying for a Masters at the London School of Economics (LSE).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77r05nx11po

The one thing i never got and i agree, partly with @Rummly is the freebies pre election over many years....

All above board, declared in the members interests but boy how does that look to "normal" people.... very disappointing.

All known about at the time but the media chose to release this info post election... max damage to Labour and of course the country.

Have to laugh at MN not in step... the majority of the media is right wing.... which isn't the view of most of the public... the majority of whom would still vote for pro EU and/or centre/centre left parties....if latest polling is to be believed?

Bojo got 43% of the vote in 2019, of course no Reform to split the vote either... now the Tories would be lucky to get 20%...

@Katypp mn isn't really in step with other media, there's a lot of Labour

What you post is relevant though as you can see the impact on support for Labour since the GE.

I think it’s very much “best of a bad bunch” though. We couldn’t go on with the tories as they were.

The noise around the Labour Party is at least broadly around policy and not the permanent round of backstabbing and personal sleaze (yes, I know Labour are not immune from that but the noise is just significantly reduced). Quite frankly I want a party that sticks to politics in the main. The Tories and Reform wouldn’t have given us that, and the Lib Dems just aren’t big enough to compete.

The opposition have been noticeably quiet in the last few months - probably because there aren’t a lot of realistic choices that aren’t worse. The donkeys of the last 14 years have made such a bloody mess. Labour always said their unpopular policies would be implemented first when the polls least matter. I think this is a very sensible approach. We all need the medicine I’m afraid, no matter how disgusting it tastes.

@Katypp "They have spent 24 years carping at every move the Tories made, calling for resignations and generally being holier-than-thou and supercilious, giving the impression it would be different with a Labour goverment because they were better people."
That's what oppositions do!

So far, we've had lying on CVs, freebies, housing controversy, dodgy landlords, punching constituents and the recent Whatsapp controversy.
The "freebie" thing was badly handled, I agree. The "housing controversy" turned out to be not to be a controversy at all. The "dodgy landlord" the "constituent puncher" and the guy with the WhatsApps were out so fast their feet didn't touch the ground.

Not up to speed on the "lying on the CV" so can't comment.

The Tories had many issues to deal with but oh no, issues in the UK economy were on them and Labour would have sorted it, if only they were in power

Ummmmm that is the job of opposition, the Tories are doing it now, at every opportunity...

But there is no doubt that the Tories handled many things badly, Austerity for starters, then Brexit, the biggest dampener on growth we've had recently, handing out billions in Covid supporter to fraudsters...

They did however, get Ukraine right, Bojo did a good job there, their energy support was needed too.. they didn't get everything wrong.

Saying you worked at the BoE for 6 years instead of 5 years 6 months, 20/25 years ago, is not on my list of concerns given what the UK and Europe face right now....

The first post should say 14 years, not 24 obvs

And, if I may rant a little more, growth.
Yes, it is difficult. But again it's the optics.
Labour and Reeves gave the impression that growth was achievable it's just the Tories never bothered to try. They would sort it because they knew what they were doing.
Now we are hearing that it's the economic situation that's the problem, not them.
The Tories had many issues to deal with but oh no, issues in the UK economy were on them and Labour would have sorted it, if only they were in power.
We have a chancellor who lied on the CV, blamed someone else for doing it and seems to think talking about growth a lot while implementing policies that cripple businesses is the way to achieve it. But that's fine apparently, because it's Labour.

I think much of the plunge in popularity is not coming from policies. It's the hypocrisy many -including me - just can't stand and the fact it looks as if they are going back on election promises.
Prior to the election, MN was full of people saying over and over again they would be happy to pay more tax and I think if it was correctly presented, people could have got on board with going back on Hunt's NI rise as Labour surely were well aware of the state if public services.
Instead we got an increase in employer's NI which although was not a promise they broke, was against the impression they give prior to the election. This with a helping of wide-eyed innocence about a black hole which they 'had to fix'.
They have spent 24 years carping at every move the Tories made, calling for resignations and generally being holier-than-thou and supercilious, giving the impression it would be different with a Labour goverment because they were better people.
So far, we've had lying on CVs, freebies, housing controversy, dodgy landlords, punching constituents and the recent Whatsapp controversy. And as we are constantly told, they've only been in power seven months!
And all the while, many supporters are brushing all the above aside as 'the grown-ups are in charge' in a way they would never, ever do if eg a Tory was revealed as a dodgy landlord.
'The Tories were worse' is the constant cry on here, as if nothing that Labour do matters or counts. Did people who voted Labour vote for what they got? Would they be happy if a Conservative chancellor lied on their CV or was found to be talking about constituents? Of course they wouldn't, and we would know about it, on here. But, on the basis that 'the Tories were worse' all is fine apparently.

Growth is extremely difficult, the Tories had 14years and rarely achieved it, there is no magic wand....

Green energy projects are driving job growth, esp in Scotland and around the Humber.... we cannot keep on with our reliance on gas, with prices set internationally, see the energy rises today?

Tax rises don't win elections, its not a winning formula... reversing the NI cut would have been portrayed across the media as an attack on ordinary people struggling in the COL crisis, anti growth, it would have been a godsend for the Tories.

Only have to see how Labour have plunged in the polls since the have increases taxes to see what would have happened had they planned to reversed NI & put income tax up.

The personal allowance is the same whatever your age. There’s no discount for pensioners.

It certainly isn’t at the level of the old basic pension which is less than £9k per year. Those reaching state pension age from 2016 receive around £11.5k, Still below the personal allowance level.

But what’s so gruesomely spectacular about this government is its astonishing hypocrisy.

Yes

Hypocrisy, spawned by the weird, cultish belief in themselves as better than others, will bring Labour down.

@Rummly yep it doesn't help them

Much of this debate could be had after any new government comes in. Labour, like any government, have to fix things and will win at some things and fail at others.

But what’s so gruesomely spectacular about this government is its astonishing hypocrisy. WFA reduction isn’t wrong; broader welfare cuts will happen and will be necessary. So why Labour’s loathsome casting of Tories as wicked, wicked people when they had to try to hold down spending to balance the public finances - even attacking the Tories for a WFA cut that never happened!

The jetting around the world hypocrisy is another eye-popper. How could Reeves have had the brass neck to poke fun at Sunak about it in the budget? Extraordinary lack of self-awareness.

I think it’s the self-delusion, the swallowing all the moral high ground nonsense they’ve spouted for so long, that’s resulted in the freebie greed and the widespread CV lying.

Hypocrisy, spawned by the weird, cultish belief in themselves as better than others, will bring Labour down.

I think we're splitting hairs here.

The ONS said that taken together, self assessed income and capital gains were provisionally estimated at £36.2bn, and the highest January receipts since monthly records began, although 10.1% lower than OBR forcasts.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/feb/21/rachel-reeves-given-smaller-than-expected-15bn-tax-boost-to-uk-finances

As for how I think they should raise money, she could take her boot off the throats of businesses for a start to incentivise risk and growth. They could stop spending eye-watering sums on Ed Miliband's pet projects. They could have put up income tax across the board and still won the election. They could have ditched the employee NI trap set for them by the tories. They could have pinned a red rosette to a donkey and still won the election.

Well, all the extra things the govt is on the hook for need paying... or we give soldiers etc less pay, we don't settle the PO scandal and lets delay the blood compensation scheme until even more die.....

Hunt never set aside anything for any of this, in fact then cut NI... which is why we got the budget we saw.

Again, I did not mention income tax.

Quoting the Chancellor "this budget raises taxes by £40bn".

Sorry - apologies, yes, I misread re PA!

@Katypp ": When will Labour supporters own the mistakes their party has made instead of blaming to Tories for everything that's going wrong?"

OK- I'll bite. Labour can't possibly have changed e needs changing yet, so that why saying "remember the last 14 years" is reasonable. People seem to have expected everything to be fixed on day 1.

And I am happy to acknowledge mistakes. What particular mistakes do you want me to acknowledge?

"Taxing and borrowing the way labour has will damage us all"

I said Tax Take NOT surplus... which i did address in my pp, the two are very different, tax receipts were higher than predicted, record highs...... the surplus vanished because of higher borrowing...

You still haven't said how you would pay for any of this...

Reeves made choices, the Tories would face the same woes, they may have made different choices but the pain and consequences would just be felt elsewhere...... cuts cannot be made fast enough for the day to day shortfall.

Where did I mention income tax?

Ah yes. What did Reynolds say? That he was a solicitor but had to step down for politics? He wasn’t solicitor more an office clerk. Lying twit. The lot of the lying Labour party we have ‘in charge’ need a thorough check. 🤢

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y0pr34y58o.amp

How embarrassing.

Yes, me 🙋‍♀️

Because that is what Labour do. They attack views that they don’t share, they attack the tories no matter what they say or have said. It is all they know how to do, pitiful really.

At least Starmer has stopped calling the opposition Prime Minister now.