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Scared of what labour will do

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Wantachangefor2024 · 22/02/2025 01:58

Is anyone else terrified of what labour will enforce. The tax on farmers. Will they means test pip? Will they tax state pension more? What else will they do and where will it all end. They ruthlessly without no care took away the winter fuel allowance. Means testing and taxing state pension would massively impact my family

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CurlewKate · 28/02/2025 14:23

In an ideal world I would prefer no negotiation at all with Trump. And no involvement from the RF. But in the world we live in? I think the UK's uplayed a diplomatic blinder.

Tiredalwaystired · 28/02/2025 13:04

I think there is more risk to the UK this time round sadly. I doubt their personal views have changed one bit but the greater risk to our security and Trumps unpredictably might mean a change in behaviour. Who knows?

Barbadossunset · 28/02/2025 13:01

As are most of the usual Tory supporting papers and editorials.... early days though but Royal visit was played well.

Yes. There were quite a few Labour MPs who objected strongly to Trump’s last State visit in 2017, including David Lammy who said he would be out on the streets protesting.
Will a lot of MPs object to the forthcoming visit, I wonder?

EasternStandard · 28/02/2025 12:32

Talking about Philp and one or two posters on this thread.

What has been said on this thread?

Barbadossunset · 28/02/2025 11:24

PandoraSox · Today 09:
Some posters have gone a bit quiet.

Which posters?

TheNuthatch · 28/02/2025 11:08

Alexandra2001 · 28/02/2025 11:04

Talking about Philp and one or two posters on this thread.

..as you say "mainly positive"

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You seem to be actively seeking negativity where there is none.

Alexandra2001 · 28/02/2025 11:04

TheNuthatch · 28/02/2025 10:46

I didn't see Philp on Sky, but the reaction across MN seems mainly positive from what I can see.
Is there a particular thread that you think is negative?

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Talking about Philp and one or two posters on this thread.

..as you say "mainly positive"

TheNuthatch · 28/02/2025 10:46

Alexandra2001 · 28/02/2025 10:36

Typical though, Philp on Sky couldn't bring himself to approve, even the slightest praise was beyond him...

Sounds like he might be on here too....

I didn't see Philp on Sky, but the reaction across MN seems mainly positive from what I can see.
Is there a particular thread that you think is negative?

EasternStandard · 28/02/2025 10:45

People are needy for approval on this thread..

Alexandra2001 · 28/02/2025 10:36

Typical though, Philp on Sky couldn't bring himself to approve, even the slightest praise was beyond him...

Sounds like he might be on here too....

EasternStandard · 28/02/2025 09:31

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 09:20

🤭 I should have been more specific and said : some posters who were active on this thread have gone quiet.

I hope that is more acceptable.

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Well I know what you meant. But so what?

People go to other threads

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 09:26

BIossomtoes · 28/02/2025 09:24

It is. It pretty much sums up my feeling, despite the disappointment. Now isn’t the right time for the kind of government I’d really like.

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It is hard to accept that, but I think it might be true. However, if policy doesn't shift when times get better it will be inexcusable.

BIossomtoes · 28/02/2025 09:24

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 09:10

Some posters have gone a bit quiet.

@Tiredalwaystired that is a very pragmatic take and a good one.

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It is. It pretty much sums up my feeling, despite the disappointment. Now isn’t the right time for the kind of government I’d really like.

EasternStandard · 28/02/2025 09:23

Ditto 🤭😂

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 09:20

🤭 I should have been more specific and said : some posters who were active on this thread have gone quiet.

I hope that is more acceptable.

EasternStandard · 28/02/2025 09:18

I always laugh when posters don't feel the attention is on the thread they're on.

They're probably engaging on other threads with other posters.

There's an insightful King's letter thread for example

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 09:10

Some posters have gone a bit quiet.

@Tiredalwaystired that is a very pragmatic take and a good one.

Tiredalwaystired · 28/02/2025 09:03

Yes I’ve been very impressed with the way things are being handled right now.

in an ideal world I would like the left to be a bit more left but line the above poster I think we’re not in the financial position to do that. If we need to be Tory light for a couple of years to get us to a state where we could be more left leaning I would be very happy but I’m having to be pragmatic right now because financially we’re in the shit and there are so many other problems right now too.

4C0rners · 28/02/2025 08:40

And finally somebody sorts out the shit show that the Tories created as regards GP surgeries. It’s a disgrace that it has been left for so long.

4C0rners · 28/02/2025 08:38

Alexandra2001 · 27/02/2025 20:47

Just caught the end of the Trump/Starmer conference.. seems at first to have gone well, have to see what happens over the next few days.

Very glad Starmer is there representing us and not Badenoch, she'd have been a walkover for Trump.

Absolutely this! So glad he put Vance in his place too re his ridiculous accusations over free speech and the Online Safety Act.

Alexandra2001 · 28/02/2025 08:32

Papyrophile · 28/02/2025 08:27

Wow!! I am quite stunned that it appears to have gone as well as that. Today programme is very positive on the summit.

As are most of the usual Tory supporting papers and editorials.... early days though but Royal visit was played well.

Papyrophile · 28/02/2025 08:27

Wow!! I am quite stunned that it appears to have gone as well as that. Today programme is very positive on the summit.

Papyrophile · 27/02/2025 20:52

I haven't seen or heard it yet, but will listen later. I feel it is really important to forge connections.

Alexandra2001 · 27/02/2025 20:47

Just caught the end of the Trump/Starmer conference.. seems at first to have gone well, have to see what happens over the next few days.

Very glad Starmer is there representing us and not Badenoch, she'd have been a walkover for Trump.

Papyrophile · 27/02/2025 20:45

I'd add to the above, that I don't think they have much choice BUT to follow this course right now, whatever their political preferences might be. If they play this well, I have my fingers crossed that we shall look back on them as a better than average government. And I think Keir Starmer will/would be pretty happy with that.

Labour hold all the high cards now, possibly quite briefly once the bye elections start, and have a huge majority. I hope they will seize the moment to do the sensible stuff, fairly. Ambitious housing plans, and train bricklayers and construction trades to do the work. Get everyone off Insta glam.

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