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To have been this honest with my husband?

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Wallflowersunite · 21/02/2025 21:31

Long story short but without drip feeding. My husband has two children with his ex girlfriend. They’ve been split for 6 years, we’ve been together 5, married 2, have a baby and another on the way. After many many court battles (instigated by my husband) to get contact sorted (after his ex repeatedly stopped contact, and which I was witness to rather than just told), his ex made a malicious report to child welfare (which has since been sorted and dismissed by all legal authorities). During the investigation I had to supervise contact between my husband and son which was a real logistical nightmare but we got through it and he’s been acquitted.

The wheels are back in motion for him to reestablish contact with his children and whilst I totally support this, I am scared but that’s another conversation. He asked me tonight if I missed them (haven’t seen them in a few months) and I was brutally honest and said no but I totally understand it must be heart wrenching for him. He got a bit defensive and asked why I didn’t miss them. I again was honest and said I have a baby who is very clingy, I’m heavily pregnant, I’m still working full time and I’m trying to secure a promotion before I go off on mat leave. I apologised and said I probably should think about them more but at the minute I’m just living hour to hour because our lives are very full on.

he’s grand but he seems a bit upset my response. Aibu?

OP posts:
biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 16:58

Wallflowersunite · 24/02/2025 11:00

I honestly don’t see what more myself and husband can do. We’ve been through courts, we’ve been through hell to be honest just trying to get access and keep everything as normal and healthy as possible. We’ve done everything by the book, it gets to a point where you need to accept defeat in an uphill battle unfortunately

Your DH shouldn't have started a new family with a woman who was "indifferent" about his existing children and who, by her own admission, doesn't care whether contact ever resumes again.

You shouldn't have had children with a man who already had kids you don't care about.

And the ex shouldn't be playing games.

Wallflowersunite · 24/02/2025 16:58

Kittygolightlyy · 24/02/2025 16:53

I’m guessing he left her for you (or it’s a bit murky).. is that why she’s so bitter?

Poor children (all of them). It’s Always them who suffer. They fck you up your mum and dad etc.

And my children are fine thank you, in fact we’ve have to take steps and decisions to protect them from this mess that we haven’t caused

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Wallflowersunite · 24/02/2025 16:58

Kittygolightlyy · 24/02/2025 16:53

I’m guessing he left her for you (or it’s a bit murky).. is that why she’s so bitter?

Poor children (all of them). It’s Always them who suffer. They fck you up your mum and dad etc.

your guess would be entirely wrong. She’s bitter because he didn’t want to marry and he married me within 3 years and was openly very involved in the wedding.

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biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 16:57

RawBloomers · 24/02/2025 15:22

I didn’t say showing diplomacy and empathy was appalling. I said lying to him would be appalling. You framing lying as diplomacy doesn’t stop it being a lie. If she can show diplomacy and empathy without pretending she misses then I’d agree that was the better thing to do. But no one’s suggested how she could have done that, so I’m thinking it’s probably a difficult one to come up with on the fly.

I don’t share your certainty about his knowledge of her feelings towards his children. I think lots of parents kid themselves about how their partners feel towards step-children. It’s not good for the anyone in the family.

Edited

I just think there's a difference between saying outright "I don't miss your kids" and saying something like "the house just isn't the same without them".

I don't feel as though the latter is a lie - it's just a nicer, less abrupt way of answering the question.

Kittygolightlyy · 24/02/2025 16:53

I’m guessing he left her for you (or it’s a bit murky).. is that why she’s so bitter?

Poor children (all of them). It’s Always them who suffer. They fck you up your mum and dad etc.

Wallflowersunite · 24/02/2025 16:47

StormingNorman · 24/02/2025 16:25

At what point would you accept defeat and losing access to the baby you’re carrying?

It’s a bit different for mums. We only had his children EOW and now there is a potentially significant threat posed to the safety of our children on the back of this malicious report. I.e. his ex could do it again only this time accuse me or accuse us both and we go through all this again and she’s proven she’s more than capable and willing to do it. She doesn’t want my husband in their lives and I refuse to let my own children be collateral damage. Unfortunately there is no winner in all this.

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StormingNorman · 24/02/2025 16:25

Wallflowersunite · 24/02/2025 11:00

I honestly don’t see what more myself and husband can do. We’ve been through courts, we’ve been through hell to be honest just trying to get access and keep everything as normal and healthy as possible. We’ve done everything by the book, it gets to a point where you need to accept defeat in an uphill battle unfortunately

At what point would you accept defeat and losing access to the baby you’re carrying?

RawBloomers · 24/02/2025 15:22

biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 07:56

I'm not sure how it's "appalling" to suggest someone shows a little bit of diplomacy and empathy towards their spouse who is clearly hurting and struggling, @RawBloomers Confused

I'm sure he knows OP doesn't feel the exact same way about them as he does, but a little of kindness on her part would have gone a long way, IMO. She just comes across as cold and uncaring.

I didn’t say showing diplomacy and empathy was appalling. I said lying to him would be appalling. You framing lying as diplomacy doesn’t stop it being a lie. If she can show diplomacy and empathy without pretending she misses then I’d agree that was the better thing to do. But no one’s suggested how she could have done that, so I’m thinking it’s probably a difficult one to come up with on the fly.

I don’t share your certainty about his knowledge of her feelings towards his children. I think lots of parents kid themselves about how their partners feel towards step-children. It’s not good for the anyone in the family.

Wallflowersunite · 24/02/2025 11:00

biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 10:07

No, I think all the adults in this mess are damaging the DC.

I honestly don’t see what more myself and husband can do. We’ve been through courts, we’ve been through hell to be honest just trying to get access and keep everything as normal and healthy as possible. We’ve done everything by the book, it gets to a point where you need to accept defeat in an uphill battle unfortunately

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Aweecupofteaandabiscuit · 24/02/2025 10:54

biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 10:07

No, I think all the adults in this mess are damaging the DC.

OP has been supporting their father in his fight to be an active part of their lives. Not sure anything more can reasonably be expected of her at this point.
Pour toxic waste on a patch of earth and a garden will not grow there. Know what I mean?
OP cannot manifest all these feelings she’s allegedly supposed to have for these children all on her own. Humans don’t work that way.
I do hope once mother dearest is back in her box they can begin to build a stable home life for the DC and OP will build a better bond with them in time. But right now, it’s too big an ask for someone who has her own heart and DC to protect.

biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 10:07

Aweecupofteaandabiscuit · 24/02/2025 09:44

Unbelievable that posters seem to think lack of motherly adoration from a woman they must barely know is the thing that is damaging these DC, and not the appalling and unhinged behaviour of their own mother… 🤯

No, I think all the adults in this mess are damaging the DC.

Aweecupofteaandabiscuit · 24/02/2025 09:44

Unbelievable that posters seem to think lack of motherly adoration from a woman they must barely know is the thing that is damaging these DC, and not the appalling and unhinged behaviour of their own mother… 🤯

Wallflowersunite · 24/02/2025 09:33

biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 09:09

He already knows this and he’s more than happy to be with me.

Sounds like you both deserve each other tbh. Those poor children being raised in this mess.

They’re being raised by their mother who is denying access for genuinely no other reason than she wants my husband out of the children’s lives so I totally agree!!!

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biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 09:09

He already knows this and he’s more than happy to be with me.

Sounds like you both deserve each other tbh. Those poor children being raised in this mess.

Kittygolightlyy · 24/02/2025 09:07

YABU for being so brutally honest with your husband. It wasn’t necessary and you should’ve just gently lied (and I hate when people lie but in this case, he must’ve been so hurt and won’t ever forget what you said. He’s fighting to see his kids and you basically said you couldn’t care less - to his ears in that instant).

YANBU - obviously you’ve got loads going on and you were just being honest. I get that too. One of those things, but you can’t take it back now.

Agree with PP, best thing to do is probably talk things through with each other. Rather than let it fester.

LilacLilias · 24/02/2025 09:03

I think he shouldn't have asked!

Wallflowersunite · 24/02/2025 08:59

biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 07:59

I don’t miss them, that’s the truth and from my own point of view I’m indifferent about contact resuming

Maybe, in line with your policy of being "brutally honest", you should tell him that and give him the chance to leave and find someone who isn't quite so cold towards his children.

He already knows this and he’s more than happy to be with me. I knew what I signed up for, however, it took a very sinister turn when a malicious report was made. He understands we need to protect our own children too.

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biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 07:59

I don’t miss them, that’s the truth and from my own point of view I’m indifferent about contact resuming

Maybe, in line with your policy of being "brutally honest", you should tell him that and give him the chance to leave and find someone who isn't quite so cold towards his children.

Hwi · 24/02/2025 07:56

You are an honest person. Your husband is an unreasonable person. You put up with all that shite about him sorting contact through the courts and did not walk away (I would have). He should be so grateful and he is not - apparently all your support and putting up is not enough for him. You have to make a happiness song and dance now. Wow.

biscuitsandbooks · 24/02/2025 07:56

I'm not sure how it's "appalling" to suggest someone shows a little bit of diplomacy and empathy towards their spouse who is clearly hurting and struggling, @RawBloomers Confused

I'm sure he knows OP doesn't feel the exact same way about them as he does, but a little of kindness on her part would have gone a long way, IMO. She just comes across as cold and uncaring.

StormingNorman · 24/02/2025 07:51

JHound · 24/02/2025 01:46

Saying you are indifferent from contact resuming isn’t the same as saying you dislike them.

Saying you do t care if you never see your stepchildren again is different from saying you do t like them? Not when you say it to the person who loves them most in the world.

Even said to anyone else you’re just playing semantics.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 24/02/2025 07:46

Hamletscigar · 24/02/2025 07:08

the problem is not that you said you didn’t miss them, it’s that you didn’t miss them. I know they’re not your kids and this is why blended families are so difficult- you need to find a special place in your heart for those kids, otherwise it’s unfair on them.

This is what I wanted to say. I can understand why you don’t at the moment due to all the contact issues. But if they come into your lives again properly you need to be open to building a relationship, not just “indifferent”

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 24/02/2025 07:43

Wallflowersunite · 23/02/2025 20:22

but I would be annoyed if I asked him something and he wasn’t just honest with me. What happens when it resurfaces again or there’s a bump in the road with contact and he sees me getting on with it and wonders why I’m not more upset when I lied and said I miss them? I don’t miss them, that’s the truth and from my own point of view I’m indifferent about contact resuming (apart from the fact I’m afraid of another malicious report being made). I do feel for my husband though and I sincerely hope that for him that a normal relationship is resumed soon

Indifferent 😳 This is really concerning to me. If I was your DH and my partner was indifferent to my children from a different relationship that would have to be it. If contact resumes, I would work on building a relationship with your stepchild/ren. As this will be damaging for them, your DH and you in the long run.

Mummypie21 · 24/02/2025 07:40

I totally understand you but I would try to word it differently. I currently see a lot of my parents-in-law and honestly wouldn't miss them if I didn't see them for a few months (I do care about them and wish them well). However, I wouldn't directly say this to my DH if I was asked.

Moonlightstars · 24/02/2025 07:25

VintageFollie · 21/02/2025 22:04

If your husband isn't the father of your children, believe me, he doesn't miss them when they're not there.

That's not true! I miss DSS. Not as much I would miss my own children but I do miss him.