Non binary

This sounds suspiciously like that old refrain 'I don't mind people being gay I just wish they stopped going on about it and didn't rub our faces in it'.

Are we also not required to play along?

My daughter has a friend who was born intersex.. he/she hasn't quite decided if they want to be female or male.. been having counselling years. Parents brought them up as a boy .. they have a large clitoris that looks like a small penis but no vaginal opening.. they have a uterus but no breasts .. just nipples.. can produce sperm but also get pregnant via IVF.....didn't want any medical intervention.
They have both have both ovarian and testicular tissue.
They are non binary.

Nope - passports are just interested in what sex you see - male or female. Or if they find your dead naked body somewhere they can say male or female. But like toilets which are designed to the different anatomy (bodies).

gender is all about appearances and behaviour. But some do struggle to understand that bodies and social constructs are two completely different things (binary even 🙂)

It’s not a big deal. There are very few things in life that require specific genitalia, and I have no interest in who people are sexually attracted to. I can’t for the life of me understand why people are so obsessed with other people’s private lives.

What an utterly ridiculous thing to write. Wearing trousers instead of skirts does not make a female NB or gender fluid.

Assuming you're trying to be antagonistic, well done 👏🏻

Gosh
Today I've been doing my STEM job wearing a hoodie and trousers, no makeup and my hair tied back.
Even though I was born a woman, always thought I was female and have given birth to two children- maybe I'm actually non binary?! 🤔

This obsession with labels and making everything so complicated! Things were so much simpler in the 70s when people just asked if you wanted a shag.

To think that people went through the revolution in the 60s, for this?!

I have a friend who is non binary. The friend is very trans positive and subscribes to people having an inner gender. If you believe in this but don't have an inner gender feeling either way yourself then you are non binary.

Most people, in my experience, when someone is referred to as non binary say "non binary man or a non binary woman?". Not in their presence of course, because that's unnecessary.

Maybe if society hadn't demanded people conform to certain rules we wouldn't have this issue. If people could look, dress and behave how they wanted to (obviously within reason before someone jumps on me) then maybe a lot of people wouldn't feel they don't belong to the sex they were born. I have read that a lot of people who think they are trans or non binary are autistic and society wasn't built around their needs, so I can see why they feel they don't fit. If someone born with male genitalia wanted to wear pink when I was a kid then they were labelled as gay or trans. Maybe if they'd been allowed to wear pink with no comment then they'd never have questioned their gender. I do believe that gender has been created by society and if we weren't all such judgemental sheep a lot less people would feel uncomfortable as they are.

I still think we would have some trans people though and that's fine, everything is on a spectrum.

I can't seem to control my face when someone tells me they are non binary however hard I try.

But being gay is actually a thing. You are attracted to the same sex. Being ‘non-binary’ is not a thing. It’s utter rubbish. You are either male or female

I'm in a hobby group with a man who calls himself non binary. As we use pronouns in front of others as part of the hobby (eg you should have passed him the ball), our language is policed and we must say they / them / their. I won't do it so either say his name, try not to refer to him or talk to him directly. We're also not allowed to say men and women as this is also policed. If I do not conform I know I would be asked to leave the group and there isn't another group locally. I can't stand having reality warped in this way but I don't want to stop doing my hobby 😕.

It’s to save people who have spent their lives interacting with a screen from having to develop a personality.

DILEMMA

I met up with a friend today and wore
make up. I won’t be wearing make up tomorrow. If I was a girl today because I wore make up, what does that make me tomorrow? Anyone?

Getting my curlers in right now & choosing tomorrow’s lippy as I am going for a binary day 🤣🤣💃💄

I'd say "oh no, I'm sorry you're unwell".

One sentence; two meanings. Ha ha!

(I'm getting carried away on this thread due to the absurdity of the state of our world).

Tomorrow's going to be a girly one - I've got the mangle ready!

Ah at least it's not as annoying as "I'm queer" which seems to mean heterosexual but afraid of missing out on all the gender woo....

Oh my goodness, this must be the most nuts thing I’ve ever read on Mumsnet! You do know that women can wear jeans and no make up and it makes absolutely no difference to their sex AT ALL.

I’m not putting on my pinny today, not making my husband breakfast in bed, and not washing the family clothes using a mangle. I must be having a non binary day 🙄.

It's only useful for alerting you to those you'll probably want to avoid, the blue hair helps too.

It means “I don’t exactly fit with the ridiculous gender stereotypes and I want to feel important and special about this fact.”