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To think it’s my business who gets my money when I die?

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Trunksarebetter · 21/02/2025 20:05

Not really a big issue I suppose, as ultimately no one else will be able to decide for me (or argue with me when it happens!), but this has annoyed me!

I don’t have children and am very happy for it to stay that way. I was having a general discussion with my parents about retirement plans, as they’re looking to downsize now that they’re retiring. I said I’d probably do similar when I’m older to give myself a lump sum, or maybe do equity release if I decide I don’t want to move. I added that I know a lot of people are against equity release, but that it wouldn’t be the same issue for me, because it’s not as if I have children who will be expecting an inheritance.

My dad said, almost before I’d finished speaking, and in what I felt was a quite causal/dismissive way, “Well, it’ll all go to Lucy”. I said, “Sorry?” and he said, “Your house, your money; it’ll all go to Lucy when you die.”

Lucy is my niece; my brother’s only child. I love her very much and, in all likelihood, I will indeed leave her anything that happens to be left over. But I’m certainly not planning my finances with an inheritance for her in mind. She’ll get everything from her parents, plus whatever my parents leave to my brother - she certainly won’t have to rely on getting anything from me!

I said, fairly jokingly, “Er, hang on - I think that’s up to me! I might not want to leave it all to Lucy!” But my dad seemed to take it quite seriously. He was saying, “Well who else are you going to leave it to? Friends? What’s the point in that when you’re all around the same age anyway? Of course you’ll leave it to Lucy.”

I replied that I’d probably do just that, but a) it would be MY choice and there was no “of course” about it and b) that while she was welcome to anything that was left over, I wasn’t planning for there to be much, because I’m going to spend it, on me.

My dad was a bit huffy about this. He has an awful habit of getting dismissive when a discussion doesn’t go his way, and that’s what I got this time - an “Okay, fine; that’s that”, where he’ll try to shut down the conversation, but then will still throw in a “I just think that…” and goes back to his original point.

I know that it doesn’t realistically matter, as I don’t have to even tell my parents what’s in my will, and unless they outlive me, they’ll never find out. But it’s the assumption that annoys me. What if I wanted to leave the whole lot to charity? Or just plain old didn’t want someone else telling me what was happening to my money? Surely this isn’t for anyone to make assumptions about, family or otherwise?

OP posts:
Trunksarebetter · 22/02/2025 10:41

tropicalroses · 22/02/2025 10:11

Just be careful with this that your dad doesn't attempt to right perceived wrongs by leaving all his estate to your niece or sibling and cutting you out.

Well that would be his decision. But I really don’t think he’s that kind of game player. He made assumptions, but I honestly don’t think he’d try to manipulate me into writing my will a certain way.

Anyway, let’s say for the sake of argument that he did do this - it’s a fundamentally flawed plan. If my mother outlives him (likely) what’s to stop her leaving me more to counteract this? And if I did say “Okay, Lucy gets the lot” and changed my will, what happens if - let’s be honest, when - I outlive him? What’s to stop me changing my will again?

Also, if the idea is for Lucy to get the best inheritance possible, disinheriting me to favour her would be counterproductive. Even if my father left his entire estate to Lucy rather than to my mother, she’d still own half the house, and would surely want to leave at least some of her share to me and my brother.

Nah - much better for my dad, and for Lucy, if he keeps his crazy (but pretty decently off) spinster daughter on side 😉😉

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Rewis · 22/02/2025 10:35

Whenever there is a thread about inheritance no matter how unfair the distribution is. Everyone says you can't expect anything. You'll just have to spend your time, money and energy to taking care of a loved one eventhough they're giving everything to the drug addict cousin twice removed that hasn't been around for 20 years and rest to the cat shelter. But somehow this is going to a different direction.

thepariscrimefiles · 22/02/2025 10:31

MulberryPeony · 22/02/2025 09:38

OMG OP I’m so sorry you’ve been met with the utter fucking nastiest side of mumsnet on your thread.

It's weird isn't it? It's hardly a controversial topic, OP hasn't done or said anything awful to her dad or her niece but there's been a real horrible pile on. Sometimes the first response sets the tone and all the others follow their lead.

GoldMoon · 22/02/2025 10:31

If I had no direct family to leave it to , I'd have fabulous holidays , great meals out ( paying for a friend if didn't want to go alone ) lovely days out , lots of self care - hairdressers , manicures , massages ext and generally enjoy spending it .

Good for you to think of equity release of even sell up and rent so no worries about upkeep.
Hopefully spend the majority in having a nice life indulging yourself.

Then on your small inheritance left , favourite charity / good cause and niece if you still wish to do so .

To be quite frank , you might see a fair bit of ' Lucy ' now but when she's all grown up and doing her own thing she will probably see you as a distant relative she doesn't even wish a Happy birthday / Merry Christmas too .

Louko · 22/02/2025 10:27

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2025 10:13

It’s your job to provide for your kids, not that of your siblings.

I also have a Lucy, parents are a lot better off than we are so I feel no guilt about prioritising my own future needs over theirs. They can have whatever’s left over.

I agree .I have sorted stuff out for my DC myself and certainly don’t need to keep being told by my childless sibling that they will spend everything and my DC will get anything that might be left. I just shrug and say my kids ,my responsabilty.

thepariscrimefiles · 22/02/2025 10:23

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Don't be ridiculous. Mumsnet is for anyone that choose to post. There is a Retirement board for people who probably are no longer parenting young children. There is even a 'Mumsnetters without Children' board on here.

I'd much rather have meaningful contributions from non-parents than goady and unhelpful contributions from parents like you.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 22/02/2025 10:20

Your dad (and it isn’t always dads) who still think they unmarried daughters are of the spinster variety.
You are to be there for them as carer because your brother will be ‘too busy’ with his family.
You are to leave all resources to Lucy because woe betide you want to do anything else.
I am now without both my parents and believe me you can’t change them, only how you manage them.
At this stage, Lucy is probably busy living her life and unaware of all of this.
Make a will and don’t tell them - they don’t need to know what’s in it. It’s none of their business.
And use the ‘yes Dad that sounds great’ to everything.
Am I suggesting you lie? At this stage I think not revealing your plans for anything is the best way.
Parents like your dad will get even more stuck in their ways. Learning to detach a bit is hard, it just takes practice.
And then live your life for you.
If you outlive them - and you will - they won’t know anyway.
They will not have a clue. And bearing in mind how things change, and care you may need yourself, I often say I might have bugger left by then anyway!

Lincslady53 · 22/02/2025 10:19

That's assuming there is anything left. You will need a good wodge to pay for care costs should they be needed.

Nottodaty · 22/02/2025 10:18

My husband has a childless aunt on his Mum side and an uncle on his dad side.

He is the only relative on his Mum side and has a half sister on Dad side.

He doesn’t expect anything from either of them. Have no idea where they will each leave their money too. I can assume that his sister is likely to inherit something/more from their Uncle but she is very close to him and makes an effort - slightly different with my husband relationship with them.

It’s their choice and nothing to do with us.

tropicalroses · 22/02/2025 10:18

Porcuporpoise · 22/02/2025 10:15

Well that would be his choice as its his estate. The OP is arguing for the right to leave her money as she likes, presumably her father has the same right?

Of course. But if OP is arguing a hypothetical, and he thinks it it true then it may give him a false impression of what she actually intends.

Whilst yes it is money, that she probably doesn't need, I'd be devastated if my parents wills weren't equal and would take it as a slight.

Porcuporpoise · 22/02/2025 10:15

tropicalroses · 22/02/2025 10:11

Just be careful with this that your dad doesn't attempt to right perceived wrongs by leaving all his estate to your niece or sibling and cutting you out.

Well that would be his choice as its his estate. The OP is arguing for the right to leave her money as she likes, presumably her father has the same right?

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2025 10:13

ZenNudist · 21/02/2025 20:44

I dont think youre expected to leave a specific inheritance for Lucy. Just whatever is left. A charitable donation would be reasonable too.

I really hope my siblings and siblings in law leave inheritance to my dc as they are the only children in our family. I don't expect them to scrimp to give an inheritance, but it would be nice to pass what little there is down to make their lives easier.

I also hope it will come very late in DS life as its nicer to have aunts and uncles living well and spending Inheritance with equity release .

I do think equity release is a bit dodgy. What if you live a long time and need care? I'd rather have my equity to fund a nicer nursing home because the council ones are GRIM.

It’s your job to provide for your kids, not that of your siblings.

I also have a Lucy, parents are a lot better off than we are so I feel no guilt about prioritising my own future needs over theirs. They can have whatever’s left over.

NDHz · 22/02/2025 10:11

Trunksarebetter · 22/02/2025 10:07

But as I said in my OP, I’ll probably leave most of it to my niece anyway. It was the assumption that this is happening that annoyed me.

Yes. It’s just the difference between “probably will” and “already made provision to”.

tropicalroses · 22/02/2025 10:11

Trunksarebetter · 22/02/2025 10:07

But as I said in my OP, I’ll probably leave most of it to my niece anyway. It was the assumption that this is happening that annoyed me.

Just be careful with this that your dad doesn't attempt to right perceived wrongs by leaving all his estate to your niece or sibling and cutting you out.

Trunksarebetter · 22/02/2025 10:07

NDHz · 22/02/2025 09:54

The opposite in that she does already intend to leave a bequest to her nieces.

But as I said in my OP, I’ll probably leave most of it to my niece anyway. It was the assumption that this is happening that annoyed me.

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NDHz · 22/02/2025 09:54

Trunksarebetter · 22/02/2025 09:38

I am the opposite of you. I have been blessed in life and while most of my estate will go to my child I have also made provision for my two nieces.

I’m not sure how this makes you the opposite of me? Unless you’re implying I haven’t been “blessed” because I don’t have children?

The opposite in that she does already intend to leave a bequest to her nieces.

tropicalroses · 22/02/2025 09:53

Its entirely up to you what you do with your money.

There was a similar blow-up with my family when they found that I wasn't leaving anything to my niece. The assumption was me being childless would leave it all to her. In fact it is going into a trust to look after my dogs when I die with the carer getting the remainder of the estate on the death of the last one.

....That then raised the question of who was getting the dogs, my brother was furious when he found out it is an ex boyfriend and not him (then a few other specified people as back-up). Just for reference when my niece was born my brother asked I stop bring my dog to family gatherings, which I unhappily did.... I found it telling he didn't want my dogs around his child until there were £££ involved.

sammylady37 · 22/02/2025 09:51

I understand your annoyance op.
I’m also childfree and single. I’m well off and my family know this as my salary is in the public domain. I have lots of nieces and nephews, with varying degrees of closeness to them, some I am very close to, others I’d struggle to recognise.
One of my sisters assumes I’m as big a fan of her DC as she is, and has made multiple comments about them benefitting more than others in my will. She has also suggested I start giving them money now, whilst I’m in my mid-40s, to reduce the inheritance tax burden!

Over the years, I’ve found that certain people have opinions on what I do with my money both while I’m alive and when I’m dead, perhaps because there isn’t such a ‘traditional’ route expected for it due to me being childfree.

My stock response now is to smile and say something along the lines of people shouldn’t have expectations and that anything they receive would be a bonus.

But it is infuriating, I agree.

Whyherewego · 22/02/2025 09:47

Trunksarebetter · 21/02/2025 21:15

It wouldn’t have been awkward if he’d just accepted my money is mine and that I decide what happens to it.

Yes he should have but older people often assume inheritance will be "kept in the family". Of course it's your business and of course he has no right to tell you where it should go. But he's just reflecting social norms of his generation.
You could find a DP with kids, you could find a DP who is half your age, you could become trustee of a charity. Plenty could happen. I'd personally have just made some non committal noise and moved on the conversation. Or said in a jokey way "either Lucy or the cats home, depending on my mood at the time" or "better still I may do a random recipient generator" or something of that ilk.

ThatNimblePeer · 22/02/2025 09:42

Trunksarebetter · 22/02/2025 09:38

I am the opposite of you. I have been blessed in life and while most of my estate will go to my child I have also made provision for my two nieces.

I’m not sure how this makes you the opposite of me? Unless you’re implying I haven’t been “blessed” because I don’t have children?

I agree her post could read that way, which would be obnoxious, but I think she just means blessed in the sense that she has money, and the opposite of you in that she is definitely planning to leave it to family. That’s how I interpreted it, anyway, but it wasn’t very well worded I agree.

Trunksarebetter · 22/02/2025 09:38

I am the opposite of you. I have been blessed in life and while most of my estate will go to my child I have also made provision for my two nieces.

I’m not sure how this makes you the opposite of me? Unless you’re implying I haven’t been “blessed” because I don’t have children?

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MulberryPeony · 22/02/2025 09:38

OMG OP I’m so sorry you’ve been met with the utter fucking nastiest side of mumsnet on your thread.

Cinnamonrollsforbreakfast · 22/02/2025 09:26

Agree with you OP.

Genevieva · 22/02/2025 09:26

Write a will. Otherwise it goes to your parents.

Winter2020 · 22/02/2025 09:23

If you don't get around to making a will your niece could inherit your estate (if you are not married/no parents/siblings deceased).

Your siblings/parents could inherit if they are still alive and even a child of your niece could inherit if all other relatives are deceased.

https://www.gov.uk/inherits-someone-dies-without-will

If you want to decide who inherits your estate then you need to make that will or else it will be decided for you.

To think it’s my business who gets my money when I die?