Work pay review disappointment

That’s more than my work have done this year.

It sounds like you feel undervalued in your role and that there are better options elsewhere. Have you considered moving company? Often the way to get continual increases is to move jobs every couple of years.

That's actually a good percentage. I got nothing and my partner got 2.5, also on an outstanding end of year review.

Explain to your manager that you aren't best pleased with it & ask for confirmation of what salary the promotion comes with in June.

If the promotion has been agreed & it's not that you're applying for it in June, but definitely happening, then just ask what salary it is.

I'd phrase it using job title. So instead of saying 'what will I be paid come June?' I'd say 'what is the salary range for the ~Team Leader~ position?' making it clear that you expect that to be different to the current role you're in (used as example)

OP what’s your actual role though and what does the promotion involve?
some sensible advise above in terms of keeping above inflation pay award separate as a concept to pay increase arising from promotion anyway

I got more than 4% only once in my 13 year career (and I got 'exceed expectations' rating 8 times). There also used to be no pay reviews if promotion happened the same year. What you got is pretty standard.

As mentioned by others - the greatest leverage in pay/promotion negotiation is an offer from other company, ideally a competitor. It might not seem fair but it's business, and business's goal is not to be fair, but to pay you as little as possible, but at the same time enough to keep you discouraged from changing jobs.

OP you're confusing people (me included) by talking about both a performance award and a promotion. Are you saying that when you start the new, more senior role in June, your salary for that role will be only £900 per year higher than your current salary for your current role?

That works out full time as about £1,125 which isn’t too bad at all.

If you think you should be paid more either negotiate or move companies to a higher paid role.

Companies will always try and get away with paying you as little as they think is possible, but that doesn’t mean you have to just accept it.

10% Christ, you'd be lucky to get that

My best guess is that 3.92% is just above average, although obviously every company is different.

Do you understand how year-end compensation works? There is only 1 pot for everyone, including bonus if you have one and pay rise. Whatever they give you has to be taken away from everyone else, so if everyone has performed well in your team then the only fair way to manage the pot is to give an average pay rise to all. And if one person is more deserving than you this year, despite your glowing review, it will lower your own rate (the same way your high rise last year impacted the rest of your team).

Your manager is right to say that it will be easier to negotiate a higher rise outside of the year-end window, because then it's considered a one-off event that can be negotiated with HR.

OP I received an outstanding year end rating which are like hens teeth in my company....pay review received today...2% 🙄

What do you do OP? Agree your full time salary is low. An above inflation pay increase is justifiable if pay is low for the job you're doing. In private sector they'll pay what they think they can get away with ime.

I think the pay rise and the promotion should be considered completely separately.

In my experience, Pay rises are usually inline with inflation or on a scale etc. Promotions are usually offered with a new salary as it’s a different role. Bonuses are rewards for exceptional work.

I’ve never worked anywhere where the 3 are all jumbled together in a nonsensical way.

last year I got my annual pay rise which was £900. A few months later I got promoted and my new salary was 7k more than my old one. At Xmas I got a £2k bonus. All very clear what was the reason for each.

I think you should look for another role.

I wouldn't make up another offer tho - I knew someone who went in with another job offer, asked for more pay, they said no and he decided to stay.

The company called him in and sacked him that day. They didn't want someone not committed to the job.

He'd already turned down the other offer at that point and was left jobless for over a year. It's always made me think - if you want to use an offer to get a rise, you've got to be prepared to actually leave if they say no.

I had the just before Xmas and I was so fucked off. Made worse by the fact my boss offered to take me to lunch to compensate, I mean what the fuck?

Anyway, I looked for a new job and have just handed in my notice, I suggest you do the same. They offered to match it but tbh the motivation to work for them was gone if they were prepared to go back on a promised payrise of 15% and give me 7%!!

All you can do really is vote with your feet. Look at the bigger picture in terms of benefits and career progression before you do anything though. Is anywhere else going to offer any better. Can you wait for a little while?

In an annual pay review 3.92% isn't bad.

I've never had a annual increment of more than 5%. That's the max my employers does when doing annual increments.

I get my increases by promotion or either requesting an out of course pay review.

I think you need to be clear with them now about your expectations re increase when promoted (I typically ask for about 25% more than I really want) and be prepared to move it you aren't happy.

If you aren't prepared to move, then you have little room to maneuver here.

In that case there's no point at all in "wanting an email from my head of office saying this is what will happen in June and an amount then I would be willing to wait" because they're very unlikely to do that and commit themselves

They're probably just hoping you'll come to terms with this and carry on with them, so as PPs have said the only answer is to secure an offer elsewhere and negotiate hard

Lucky to get any pay rise - my DP is looking at VS!

Ffs 🙄. So what if op doesn’t get a bonus?

If you want a decent pay rise you have to look for another job. It’s always been this way.

If you want more money you need to leave. Lay roses come by jumping ship regularly.

I went back to work 3 years ago on 43k, got a raise to 45k left to go to £52k and got a promotion to £60k. Next move is to about £70k and I will aim to start applying for those roles externally next year. Internally they’ll fob me off for the next 3 years regardless of how I perform

”I don't want to leave as it's flexible and benefits are good”

there you have it. Your overall package is making the job worth it for you and you don’t want to leave. If you can’t find better elsewhere including the benefits or flexibility etc etc then it means you’re being compensated market rate for your work.