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ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 16:58

I am so mad I could cry!!
Had our work pay reviews this week.
I received and outstanding in my year end review ( very hard to get) and a promotion ( chose to stay at a lower level last year to gain more experience and more chance of decent pay rise this year) so I waited it out go over and above received fantastic feedback and I got the most appalling shitest increase of £900 a year. Wft !! I was gob smacked. Usual bullshit excuses goes on prior year you got double what everyone else got. It's private sector all on different pay so it's all irrelevant that I got double everyone else. My pay is low and I know it is but instead of complaining I've always tried to exceed my goals and work for a pay rise. It's seems they only had out decent pay rises when you leave or have another job waiting in the wings.
I am so mad and fucked off. Team leader said they are halting my promotion to go ahead with it in June as more chance of head office agreeing a pay rise out of pay review window.
I know my team leader is only the messenger but I actually want to laugh in her face at the fucking minimal shit £900 they think is ok.
I don't want to leave as it's flexible and benefits are good but I am so underpaid it's a joke.
I want to send her an email to say how dissatisfied and upset I am but not sure it will help. Do I want until June or voice my annoyance now - advice needed .
Been told this morning ( in confidence by a work friend) another colleague had gone in with another job offer and she got want she wanted but I am just not that kind of person to lie or make up a job offer pathetic aren't I

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Radionowhere · 21/02/2025 19:11

Look elsewhere. If you get offered something else be firm about the salary you're looking for. Your current employer may find the money to keep you, not sure I would stay in your shoes but whatever works for you.
The comments about what others are getting in terms of pay increases are not relevant. You should be paid the going rate for the work you do.

blueshoes · 21/02/2025 19:08

OP, what a bummer. There is a risk June is future-faking.

If you are planning to leave, I would go back to your manager saying you would like a better title whilst you wait. Since they just revised everybody's title's hopefully it is not a big ask and there is some flex there.

That way, when you go for interviews, they can see a progression in terms of titles and you can spin it as you took on more responsibilities and are got a new title promotion and in line for a fair pay increase which did not materialise so you are looking for other opportunities to grow.

If the other job is offering more and can easily meet your salary expectations, they would not be too bothered. Of course you would throw in the usual about wanting to progress and increase your experience and exposure and what else the other role and company offers which is attractive blah blah

AngelicKaty · 21/02/2025 18:50

thedogatethecattreats · 21/02/2025 18:39

Of course you look for another job

And when you give your notice, you say that you've been offered a job for £X - the amount your current job should have offered you, so bye bye.

At worst they match it, at best you start your new job.

Keep it professional, but that's what everyone does.

@ivegotthisyeah Yup, exactly this OP. 👆You shouldn't have to "lie" about having another job in the wings because you should be looking around for one so when you say you have a job offer, it's genuine.
Also, it's all well and good your manager telling you they're delaying your promotion until June to get you an "out of pay review" pay rise, but what if Head Office don't agree to this? You may get the promotion with no increase in pay.
Only you can decide if the flexibility and benefits are worth the lower pay at your current employer, but you may find another job that has equal flexibility and benefits on a much higher salary. But you won't know if you don't look.
Finally, never forget, you are in your strongest position to negotiate a decent salary when you're about to start a new job - sadly, loyalty is often overlooked, particularly when you've been there 20 years.

Msmoonpie · 21/02/2025 18:43

I feel your pain. After a year of working myself into the ground for the company as it was struggling to find staff - I was offered £500.

Oddly enough I no longer work there.

thedogatethecattreats · 21/02/2025 18:39

Of course you look for another job

And when you give your notice, you say that you've been offered a job for £X - the amount your current job should have offered you, so bye bye.

At worst they match it, at best you start your new job.

Keep it professional, but that's what everyone does.

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 18:38

Just to clarify I have not been promoted yet.
Unfortunately in my sector salaries are not advertised. You would only find out two interviews in what the salary would be.
So it is hard to prove or say

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IsthisacaseofLTB · 21/02/2025 18:37

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:08

Grand total of 3.92% 🤣🤣🤣

That’s a fairly standard increase in the current climate.

DazzlingCuckoos · 21/02/2025 18:36

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 18:33

But yet they have taken on two new members of staff with experience and I bet they are on a lot more than me! So frustrating - we are recruiting too so may just apply for that 😂🤣🥂

If there was a way to find out that, you may have a better way to approach it.

Or, look for similar roles in other organisations.

Take these figures to your line manager and say "I know the new hires are earning more than me for the same role" or "I have researched the market and it looks like the market rate for my role is £X." then "can you please ask HR to reconsider my salary as a result and I feel I am being underpaid for the role I currently have."

Zanatdy · 21/02/2025 18:36

It is a bit rubbish for a promotion. I’d expect 3% min to be your annual rise (and more for private sector, i’m public and even we got 5% this years annual rise) but you’d expect a good few thousand for the next level up. In my public dept i’d say it’s 5k or so for next level up around that salary. My last promotion I had a 15k increase.

Start to look for something else.

theemmadilemma · 21/02/2025 18:34

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:16

I'll throw some figures at you lovely lot as I do think it's helps.
If I was full time my annual would be £29k
( laughable )
My friend who left last year was on £35k got a job offering her £41k. My promotion is for the same position as hers was so I was presuming this was like the normally salary range for that job role which when I have researched is about average for experience etc
I am so fucked off it's making me want to look for another job get rewarded for nothing

If your FT is 29, they were never going to bump you to 35. That's a 20 increase. Thats rare ime.

You should have been questioning the £ when you accepted the promotion.

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 18:33

But yet they have taken on two new members of staff with experience and I bet they are on a lot more than me! So frustrating - we are recruiting too so may just apply for that 😂🤣🥂

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DazzlingCuckoos · 21/02/2025 18:32

I think this is where the whole grading system can be disadvantageous to you as an employee.

If you take the "outstanding" categorisation away, how are they saying you did?

Did you just do the job that they were paying you for? Have you gone above and beyond your role, or simply performed your role very well?

As an employer, I pay people to do the job they were employed for. Unless they've done something truly exceptional, why should I pay them more than an inflationary increase? The only way people get a bigger boost on their earnings is to change and develop their role with training and experience and promotion.

The use of the word "outstanding" does feel like you should be expecting more from an end of year pay review.

The other thing that is being factored in to a lot of businesses this year is the increase in NI.

Let's say that you're on £23,000 currently. This year that means they're paying you the £23,000 and employer's NI is £1,918.

They give you a £900 pay increase, so your salary is now £23,900, but from April that employer's NI is £2,835.

A £900 salary increase and the NI increase takes your cost to them from £24,918 to £26,735 which is a 7.29% increase in their total cost.

To give you a 10% salary increase would take your total cost of employment to £25,300 in salary and £3,045 in NI = £28,345 or a 13.75% increase.

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 18:32

There is no salary band we are all on different ! Private sector bullshit

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Funykeudfh · 21/02/2025 18:31

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:09

What for a an outstanding year end review and promotion? Standard

What were you expecting? In my role an outstanding review and a promotion are two separate things so I don't get what you mean. What's the salary band for the new role??

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 18:28

Posyrosytoasty · 21/02/2025 18:27

I Work for the council. We are getting 1 percent ! They have scrapped performance related pay for a new system which means apart from a 1 percent rise each year - we don’t get a pay rise for 3 years ! Then we will get 1.5k.
Im on 28k! So will get 280 pounds !!!! My council tax has gone up double that .

That was my first thought £900 won't even cover my council tax increase and other bill that has gone up ffs 🤦🏽‍♀️
Greedy private companies

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JustWalkingTheDogs · 21/02/2025 18:28

ExtraOnions · 21/02/2025 17:17

The only way I’ve ever got a decent pay rise is by getting a job elsewhere, and negotiating a good starting salary

This with bells on it.

Posyrosytoasty · 21/02/2025 18:27

I Work for the council. We are getting 1 percent ! They have scrapped performance related pay for a new system which means apart from a 1 percent rise each year - we don’t get a pay rise for 3 years ! Then we will get 1.5k.
Im on 28k! So will get 280 pounds !!!! My council tax has gone up double that .

Hwi · 21/02/2025 18:26

Leave!

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 18:26

@Chonk I was always inline for promotion.
Team leader was disappointed in my %increase which I realise now comes from a probably very small pot.
Hence why she has suggested to hold off on promotion until June to ask head office for a pay rise out of review window

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Hankunamatata · 21/02/2025 18:24

The only way Iv seen women up their role and salary is move jobs. Planning over each time to better roles and not being afraid to move sideways if role downs suit

DazzyRascale · 21/02/2025 18:23

Oh and I've also had a high performance rating for the last three years.

DazzyRascale · 21/02/2025 18:22

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:08

Grand total of 3.92% 🤣🤣🤣

I'm in a large corporate firm where we've had a big fat zero increase for the last two years. I don't think 4% is bad in the current climate to be fair!

jellyfishperiwinkle · 21/02/2025 18:21

I applied for the CEO job at work. Didn't get it, but got a 10k payrise out of it as they wanted to keep me doing my current job which they recognised I do very well, so that's one way to do it. 🙂

Chonk · 21/02/2025 18:21

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:21

No I did this as wanted more ammunition for this year and more experience under my belt in that job role in case what has happened happens and I feel more confident to interview elsewhere

Edit: I've quoted the wrong post, sorry.

When you say 'I wanted 10% or above for a outstanding and promotion' you mean you wanted your current salary to increase by 10% to reflect the fact your performance was so good that it got you promoted? The financial benefit of being promoted comes at the point you receive your new, increased salary, not now.

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 18:20

anonhop · 21/02/2025 18:16

Explain to your manager that you aren't best pleased with it & ask for confirmation of what salary the promotion comes with in June.

If the promotion has been agreed & it's not that you're applying for it in June, but definitely happening, then just ask what salary it is.

I'd phrase it using job title. So instead of saying 'what will I be paid come June?' I'd say 'what is the salary range for the ~Team Leader~ position?' making it clear that you expect that to be different to the current role you're in (used as example)

Thanks that's helpful

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