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ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 16:58

I am so mad I could cry!!
Had our work pay reviews this week.
I received and outstanding in my year end review ( very hard to get) and a promotion ( chose to stay at a lower level last year to gain more experience and more chance of decent pay rise this year) so I waited it out go over and above received fantastic feedback and I got the most appalling shitest increase of £900 a year. Wft !! I was gob smacked. Usual bullshit excuses goes on prior year you got double what everyone else got. It's private sector all on different pay so it's all irrelevant that I got double everyone else. My pay is low and I know it is but instead of complaining I've always tried to exceed my goals and work for a pay rise. It's seems they only had out decent pay rises when you leave or have another job waiting in the wings.
I am so mad and fucked off. Team leader said they are halting my promotion to go ahead with it in June as more chance of head office agreeing a pay rise out of pay review window.
I know my team leader is only the messenger but I actually want to laugh in her face at the fucking minimal shit £900 they think is ok.
I don't want to leave as it's flexible and benefits are good but I am so underpaid it's a joke.
I want to send her an email to say how dissatisfied and upset I am but not sure it will help. Do I want until June or voice my annoyance now - advice needed .
Been told this morning ( in confidence by a work friend) another colleague had gone in with another job offer and she got want she wanted but I am just not that kind of person to lie or make up a job offer pathetic aren't I

OP posts:
DontBeADick11 · 23/02/2025 18:22

I’ve worked in corporate for years. You need to work smarter, not harder

Ihopeyouhavent · 23/02/2025 18:18

I was in this situation a few years ago. Worked so hard all year, even worked when i was signed off sick with a broken shoulder and still only got 3%.

First time ive cried over work, so i left for a different department, best decision i ever made.

Horserider5678 · 23/02/2025 18:12

@Toomuchlemonade i work for the NHS and we are not getting 5.5%, that was last year. This year the offer is expected to be around 2.5% for the public sector!

ThatLemonBear · 23/02/2025 18:08

4% is above inflation and reasonable for over performance in your current role. Your manager is right, there is much better chance of a decent rise for your upcoming promotion if it’s outside of normal pay review cycle. Please don’t take it out on your team leader, sounds like they are doing their best for you, their hands will be tied by the higher ups. Unfortunately your best chance of a huge rise is to get a better offer elsewhere and ask them to match it…. But you do have to be prepared to go through with your resignation if they won’t

Mememe9898 · 23/02/2025 17:55

The only way to get more is to keep leaving sadly. I’ve done this for the last 15 years of my career and every job move I’ve got 10% to 30% increase in salary.
Sadly loyalty doesn’t pay. I’m starting a new job and when I handed my notice they offered me a 25% pay rise but I still decided to leave as the other job is a promotion and I wanted to get the extra experience as well as the pay increase. In my last job I got 3% to 5% raise and the 5% was because I took on a promotion. I would look elsewhere!

12 years ago I was on 27k a year now I’m on 130k. I only achieved this by moving every 2-3 years.

Hoplolly · 23/02/2025 13:47

hollyblueivy · 23/02/2025 08:00

How would people apply for the job if they don't know what the salary is? That would be wasting everyone's time.

That's pretty standard in private sector.

I don't think a 3.92% increase in this economy is that bad. It was 1.5% across the board in ours last year.

The best way of increasing earnings, is moving job.

19lottie82 · 23/02/2025 13:38

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:08

Grand total of 3.92% 🤣🤣🤣

Seems standard for an annual increase tbh.

if you want more money, vote with your feet and look for a new job.

I don’t mean to sound brutal, but that’s the only way to do it.

asrl78 · 23/02/2025 13:34

Gogogo12345 · 23/02/2025 07:27

Damn sight better than people who get 1%

This isn't a race to the bottom.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Relative-Privation

auderesperare · 23/02/2025 11:57

OP, you sounds as if you are being underpaid and taken for granted. I have a friend who works for a large insurance broker and I know there is a huge amount of politics, quite a bit of gender imbalance and a definite sense of “the squeaky wheel gets the most oil”.
Here is what I would do to maximise my chances of a decent pay rise. I’d take the emotion out of it. Don’t be angry, disappointed, withdraw labour, quiet quit etc. That will just confirm to them that they were right to give you a small rise.
Work through your anger and frustration with friends, family, Mumsnet. Then do some calculations to show what has happened to your pay (ie stagnation) over the last 5 or so years. Put these numbers down on paper along with inflation etc and show them how much worse off you are.
When you are feeling less emotional, ask for a meeting. I’d say thank you for the pay rise but say it was well below your expectations and that you are confused by the mixed messaging you are receiving (excellent reviews/ in line for promotion but low rise)
Explain what you have done over the last five years to help grow the company (whether your role is bringing in business or supporting the team).
Talk about your 20 years of loyalty to the business and the changes you’ve been part of along the way.
Say as many positives as you can so it is not just portrayed as a whinge fest.
Ask about their gender balance pay policy and what the firm is doing to close the gap. Ask if your salary is in line with the new recruits coming in at the same level. If they don’t have this to hand, ask for it to be forwarded on to you. This is information you should have. Your manager should be able to reassure you you are not being disadvantaged by their recruitment policy and that your loyalty is valued.
Leave the meeting on a high note - all the plans you have for the promoted post but also make it clear you are expecting to be properly remunerated for that role.
At the same time upgrade your LinkedIn profile and start posting relevant industry posts every two weeks. They will soon notice. This is the best sign that you are planning to leave. Attend every industry event you can (there are tonnes in insurance) Make connections. Let it be subtly known that you are ready for a change.
Do not consider leaving until you have the new title and the enhanced salary in June. It’s just three months away. Use the time to prep as above. Also reach out to your colleagues. Join groups and committees. Generally raise your profile. Hint to those closest to management that your thinking of a change.
When June comes and you get your salary enhancement and new title, start seriously job hunting. Reach out to specialist recruiters.
it’s a competitive industry, with a lot of movement. Treat getting the new job as a job. By the autumn, you may very well have increased your salary by up to 50% and have a new role and higher profile. Good luck.

hollyblueivy · 23/02/2025 08:00

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 18:38

Just to clarify I have not been promoted yet.
Unfortunately in my sector salaries are not advertised. You would only find out two interviews in what the salary would be.
So it is hard to prove or say

How would people apply for the job if they don't know what the salary is? That would be wasting everyone's time.

Gogogo12345 · 23/02/2025 07:27

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:08

Grand total of 3.92% 🤣🤣🤣

Damn sight better than people who get 1%

RedPolar · 23/02/2025 07:25

It's a rubbish job market atm but if you can get more elsewhere just go for it and leave.

Peekingovertheparapet · 23/02/2025 07:25

It all comes down to how much you trust your manager. I’ve been in her shoes and had team members who were ripe to do more and definitely deserved more pay, but at that moment chances of increased pay were slim to none. Sometimes the waiting has been months, but we’ve usually got there. She’s playing a longer, more strategic game because she thinks the short game sucks.

I think you probably do need to wait, but also to look around. If you’ve outgrown your role it might be time for something new.

unsurenow2025 · 23/02/2025 07:16

IainTorontoNSW · 23/02/2025 05:42

So, if GBP900 extra is 3.92%, then you are ONLY on about GBP23000 per year? Right? Is this a full-time job? That's only $AUD45700 ... Which would be an unskilled job for 4 days per week (or 3.5 days per week for a higher demand role here). Full time here is 35hrs/week in most jobs. Sounds like you're in a very low-skilled job or you only work a short week. I MAY BE WRONG ... just comparing standard money per week here.

The OP says they work PT.

luckylavender · 23/02/2025 06:37

If you're not happy, leave. That's how it works.

IainTorontoNSW · 23/02/2025 05:42

So, if GBP900 extra is 3.92%, then you are ONLY on about GBP23000 per year? Right? Is this a full-time job? That's only $AUD45700 ... Which would be an unskilled job for 4 days per week (or 3.5 days per week for a higher demand role here). Full time here is 35hrs/week in most jobs. Sounds like you're in a very low-skilled job or you only work a short week. I MAY BE WRONG ... just comparing standard money per week here.

smithsgj · 22/02/2025 20:50

Toomuchlemonade · 21/02/2025 17:21

That does seem low! I work for the NHS and even we got a 5.5% pay rise this year!

I work for a university and we got bugger all.

MasterpiecesofthePuzzle · 22/02/2025 18:11

Think yourself lucky. I got 2%. In my experience, I’ve only worked for one company that reviewed pay fairly and individually. The rest, including my current one, give one shit inflation related rise across the board and a thousand excuses.

middleeasternpromise · 22/02/2025 14:55

Two things come to mind with your dilemma - one is 'what we allow we encourage' - if you stay in an arrangement even when you are not getting what you feel you are worth, you are contributing to the continuation of that situation.

The second is the parable of the workers in the vineyard - in its most literal sense we get what we agreed and need to be careful of expecting more on our interpretation of what is fair. I think it would be a shame if you lost the pride you should feel for being an outstanding employee; now is maybe the time for you to take that shining example and go out and see who will pay you what you want including terms and conditions that fit your circumstances.

This situation may well have done you a great favour, putting you on the road to seeing what else is out there for an amazing worker like you! You have a choice, stay and become a bitter employee or take what you have achieved and see what comes your way.

ButIToldYouSoooo · 22/02/2025 12:09

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 22:17

Thanks for everyone's advice whether you're an employee or an employer.
I think I need to voice my disappointment to my team leader again but also start looking about.
I also want to let her know that other jobs I have seen are starting on more that what I am on now. ( even though she will be aware of that)
I've been there 20 yrs I love my job and the people I work with but it isn't enough to keep me there if I am not valued enough to be on a fair salary.
I've given so much effort to them and got nothing back I feel very deflated

Loyalty only goes one way in most companies. They say 'family' and 'loyalty required' but would have an ad to replace you in a heartbeat if you got hit by a bus.

Job hopping really is the only way to get paid what you're worth, unfortunately. Companies are relying on you to feel 'loyalty' (again, that isn't reciprocated) and not want the hassle of looking/interviewing elsewhere.

Doggymummar · 22/02/2025 09:52

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 22:17

Thanks for everyone's advice whether you're an employee or an employer.
I think I need to voice my disappointment to my team leader again but also start looking about.
I also want to let her know that other jobs I have seen are starting on more that what I am on now. ( even though she will be aware of that)
I've been there 20 yrs I love my job and the people I work with but it isn't enough to keep me there if I am not valued enough to be on a fair salary.
I've given so much effort to them and got nothing back I feel very deflated

Make sure you factor in redundancy pay to your calculations. My friend kicked herself, was 25 years at a major blue chip, low salary but excellent sick pay, redundancy was one month for every year of service plus a lump sum and the enhancement for being over 40. Went somewhere else for an extra 5k and her team was bade redundant the next year, she had been carrying them all the time. She's died now and even her death in service was miniscule. Look at the whole package, not just the salary.

FedupMumof10YearOld · 22/02/2025 06:39

I think you've just learned a really valuable lesson.

There's absolutely no point in having a strong work ethic, performing to outstanding and going above & beyond.

You are no better thought of than those that underperform, take the piss etc etc

coronafiona · 22/02/2025 04:18

If it helps I got 1.5% this year, private sector. So a pay cut. Food has gone up by 25% apparently (more like 50% in this house). Absolutely shite.

DurinsBane · 22/02/2025 03:23

What’s a pay rise? 😉😁

BooomShakeTheRoom · 22/02/2025 03:03

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:44

A 10% pay rise on my wage is £2k, I don't see how this is unrealistic for a promotion, more responsibility and larger clients which equals more income for the company

But your 3.92% wasn’t anything to do with your promotion? It was your pay review on your existing salary?

As I understand it, your promotion is due to happen in June, at which point you’re due a further promotional pay rise?

I would concentrate on asking your manager on clarity over what your new role will pay. Surely it’s normal to know the salary before deciding if you want to take on more responsibility.

I think you’re conflating the two separate events OP.

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