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ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 16:58

I am so mad I could cry!!
Had our work pay reviews this week.
I received and outstanding in my year end review ( very hard to get) and a promotion ( chose to stay at a lower level last year to gain more experience and more chance of decent pay rise this year) so I waited it out go over and above received fantastic feedback and I got the most appalling shitest increase of £900 a year. Wft !! I was gob smacked. Usual bullshit excuses goes on prior year you got double what everyone else got. It's private sector all on different pay so it's all irrelevant that I got double everyone else. My pay is low and I know it is but instead of complaining I've always tried to exceed my goals and work for a pay rise. It's seems they only had out decent pay rises when you leave or have another job waiting in the wings.
I am so mad and fucked off. Team leader said they are halting my promotion to go ahead with it in June as more chance of head office agreeing a pay rise out of pay review window.
I know my team leader is only the messenger but I actually want to laugh in her face at the fucking minimal shit £900 they think is ok.
I don't want to leave as it's flexible and benefits are good but I am so underpaid it's a joke.
I want to send her an email to say how dissatisfied and upset I am but not sure it will help. Do I want until June or voice my annoyance now - advice needed .
Been told this morning ( in confidence by a work friend) another colleague had gone in with another job offer and she got want she wanted but I am just not that kind of person to lie or make up a job offer pathetic aren't I

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ivegotthisyeah · 04/03/2025 13:11

Glittertwins · 04/03/2025 13:07

It's available for people to take though, it's down to the individual to make that choice. Ask HR for advice and see what they say. Depending on that, dust down the cv but it's a pretty hideous market out there.

HR came back and said sorry it's not more positive news for you but there isn't anything they can do. I have voiced my thoughts to my team leader

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Glittertwins · 04/03/2025 13:07

It's available for people to take though, it's down to the individual to make that choice. Ask HR for advice and see what they say. Depending on that, dust down the cv but it's a pretty hideous market out there.

ivegotthisyeah · 04/03/2025 12:59

Glittertwins · 04/03/2025 12:50

Whilst it's not going to be what you want to hear, the holiday purchase is a perk. I'm fairly certain they won't have to do a thing about your actual pay as you are choosing to buy extra holiday.

It's more the fact I don't have this option because it takes my wage below MW. I understand it's a perk but what use is it if I can't because of my wages and most other employees can't

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Glittertwins · 04/03/2025 12:50

Whilst it's not going to be what you want to hear, the holiday purchase is a perk. I'm fairly certain they won't have to do a thing about your actual pay as you are choosing to buy extra holiday.

ivegotthisyeah · 04/03/2025 12:50

changednameagain1234 · 04/03/2025 12:43

Tell them to get fucked. What a horrible company to work for

That's exactly how I feel taken some time away from my desk as can't concentrate. Had one sick day in the last 10 yrs. this afternoon is a mental health afternoon I just can't concentrate.
I am so upset

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changednameagain1234 · 04/03/2025 12:43

Tell them to get fucked. What a horrible company to work for

ivegotthisyeah · 04/03/2025 11:52

Little update for you and again another blow to me, we are at a pint where we select our benefits end of financial year so pension contributions buy holiday buy a bike etc etc and at my current levels of benefits ( they are only pension contributions and I buy a weeks holiday for childcare) I now fall below minimum wage!! So probably can't keep paying the same onto my pension or buy holiday I am waiting for HR to confirm. Surely that's not fair and a detriment to me!

I understand MW is increasing but I don't understand how it works with salary sacrifice- does anyone know? I think my hourly wage is about £16

Will my employers tell me to lower my pension and not buy holiday or will they have to do something about my wage.
I am so angry 😡
Ps looking for jobs and speaking to someone about a potential job this week

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Sgreenpy · 25/02/2025 22:34

Just thought I'd mentioned that National Insurance Employers contributions and the national minimum wage have gone up/are going up this tax year. This will have quite an impact on businesses - particularly larger ones, they may seem their (Paye) liabilities go up £1000s (some up to £100,000) which in turn affects the bottom line and the ability to give pay rises to employees.

MMCQ · 25/02/2025 01:10

You need to treat this like a business project. What’s the business case for giving you the pay rise? What do you add over and above the job you are doing? How much money did you save for the organisation or revenue did you earn above expectations? What market reports of salaries for the job you do can you find, so you can benchmark your salary against the going rate? If no reports, what salaries are similar jobs at the same level advertised at? Are there similar positions inside your organisation advertised internally to benchmark against? Etc etc. Good luck.

justasking111 · 24/02/2025 17:32

The only way I got decent pay rises was to job hop, so I did.

Diddlyumptious · 24/02/2025 17:04

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:08

Grand total of 3.92% 🤣🤣🤣

I got nothing last year and suspect it'll be the same this year. Annoys me too so from where I am, you're luckier than me.

SezFrankly · 24/02/2025 08:29

This tells you that they’ll pay you the minimum they think they need to keep you. The fact you thought you’d wait for a promotion so you can learn more sounds diligent to you. It sounds ridiculous to the ambitious idiots above you who don’t care whether they can do a job, to fight for the promotion into it.

Just go and get a new job.

JHound · 24/02/2025 01:44

ReadingSoManyThreads · 24/02/2025 00:28

I've maybe just been unlucky then as the men always got very healthy rises and promotions. Whereas I got constantly asked when I was planning to start a family.

Yeah sounds like you have had some pretty backwards employers!

BurntBroccoli · 24/02/2025 01:17

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:09

I have a vagina and work part time so that obviously outs me on a back burner

Yes - my experience too. Plus I'm over 50 into the bargain.
It's shit!

ReadingSoManyThreads · 24/02/2025 00:28

JHound · 24/02/2025 00:00

I think this is true for men and women. The only way to achieve decent payrises is when you move job (and be strategic in asking for more money.)

I've maybe just been unlucky then as the men always got very healthy rises and promotions. Whereas I got constantly asked when I was planning to start a family.

JHound · 24/02/2025 00:00

ReadingSoManyThreads · 23/02/2025 21:56

Generally speaking, it's known in the corporate world that the only way for us women to get pay rises of any decency, is to change jobs. I used to change jobs every 2-3 years to get a big chunk rise with each new job. The gender pay gap very much still exists.

The last full-time employer I had (before having children), decided not to give me any annual rise one year (that everyone else was getting), and didn't give me the annual bonus either. He did it because they wanted rid of me (I'd just got married and they thought I'd be starting a family), I just sat without reacting with any disappointment and said "that's fine, I don't need the money anyway.", he was shocked and questioned why not! I just replied that I earned more from my investments. So more or less was a big fuck you without actually saying it.

I ended up earning more than double when I went freelance in the same industry after I left.

So my advice to you is to start looking elsewhere. If they valued you, they'd give you a good enough rise to keep you.

I think this is true for men and women. The only way to achieve decent payrises is when you move job (and be strategic in asking for more money.)

ReadingSoManyThreads · 23/02/2025 21:56

Generally speaking, it's known in the corporate world that the only way for us women to get pay rises of any decency, is to change jobs. I used to change jobs every 2-3 years to get a big chunk rise with each new job. The gender pay gap very much still exists.

The last full-time employer I had (before having children), decided not to give me any annual rise one year (that everyone else was getting), and didn't give me the annual bonus either. He did it because they wanted rid of me (I'd just got married and they thought I'd be starting a family), I just sat without reacting with any disappointment and said "that's fine, I don't need the money anyway.", he was shocked and questioned why not! I just replied that I earned more from my investments. So more or less was a big fuck you without actually saying it.

I ended up earning more than double when I went freelance in the same industry after I left.

So my advice to you is to start looking elsewhere. If they valued you, they'd give you a good enough rise to keep you.

Letty186 · 23/02/2025 19:42

Achieved outstanding last year 0% pay rise, outstanding this year 1.1% payrise. Expecting a promotion soon which will include a 13% raise for more responsibility and longer hours.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 23/02/2025 19:21

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:08

Grand total of 3.92% 🤣🤣🤣

I'm getting 1.7% on my supposed "golden" local government pension

JHound · 23/02/2025 19:19

ivegotthisyeah · 21/02/2025 17:09

What for a an outstanding year end review and promotion? Standard

I work in the private sector and had the same last year. Outstanding performance rating and the company is doing well and my bonus did not even make the target threshold.
Payrise was a little bitter but I assume I was being underpaid.

Toomuchlemonade · 23/02/2025 19:12

Horserider5678 · 23/02/2025 18:12

@Toomuchlemonade i work for the NHS and we are not getting 5.5%, that was last year. This year the offer is expected to be around 2.5% for the public sector!

Sorry, I meant last year. We didn't get it paid until Nov and I'm still in 2024!

welshmercury · 23/02/2025 19:07

I don’t understand why everyone is on a different pay point? Equal pay for equal work.

Just leave and start fresh somewhere else.

Miaminmoo · 23/02/2025 19:06

Unfortunately you have inadvertently waited until Employer’s are now spending more on staff costs than ever before - minimum wage has increased by another 7% for over 21’s and they also tried to stop employers using younger and cheaper labour by sneaking in a 21% increase on the under 18 rate and a 16% increase on the 18-20 rate - add that to the employer National Insurance increase and any budget we had for recruitment and pay rises has gone. All the major supermarkets have announced redundancies as Labour are squeezing profitability for most sectors. Most of us aren’t earning anymore than we were last year sadly - I would love to give my staff more money but we aren’t making any more money than we were last year but thanks to NI and Minimum wage our cost base has gone up dramatically leaving nothing surplus and a recruitment freeze. We have to pay an inexperienced fresh out of Uni employee almost £24k a year minimum. The whole situation is ridiculous.

TunnocksOrDeath · 23/02/2025 18:48

As far as promises on pay or promotion go, it goes in writing or it didn't happen.
I'm speaking from very bitter experience.

blueshoes · 23/02/2025 18:41

12 years ago I was on 27k a year now I’m on 130k. I only achieved this by moving every 2-3 years.

I did the same as @Mememe9898 and earn multiples of what I earned 14 years ago having just switched careers sideways and started at the bottom. It was risky and exhausting to constantly upskill and then look for new roles that paid better for my wider experience and skillset, and interview and learn the ropes in a new company. Yeah it was hard work and had to work full time but am now senior and paid commensurate. I can easily earn 20% more for another jump but I think I am happy and done.

OP, if you want good remuneration, don't stick around too long. Make sure you get 20-30% more for each move, so even if it does not work, hang on for 2 years and then look again. In the meantime, you are being monetarily rewarded and negotiating off a higher base for the next job you go for.