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Doctors should not be able to scrub past wrongdoing from public record by telling the GMC they have changed gender. This endangers all patients

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SernieBanders · 21/02/2025 15:41

Apparently doctors can have their public disciplinary record scrubbed by just telling the GMC they area different gender (and they don't need to do anything other than just say so).

Basically doctors can have a new unblemished identity if they want one.

"If a doctor had received a historical sanction [i.e. the suspension is no longer in place] prior to transitioning, this information would not be available on their new public-facing record on the medical register,” says a GMC spokesman. The GMC confirms that Dr Upton is one of 62 doctors to have been given new registrations under different GMC numbers, meaning that future patients would be unable to see any details of their doctor’s previous identity by searching the GMC’s online database using the medic’s new name and number."

“Because the GMC has an even more important role than it did a couple of decades ago – recording and marking the careers of doctors – people need to be confident about the identities of doctors,”

Original report: <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.02.20-210704/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/20/doctors-change-gender-scrub-records" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.02.20-210704/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/20/doctors-change-gender-scrub-records/

Wes Streeting on the issue, https://archive.ph/W6lbJ

Sex Matters talking about it: https://x.com/sexmattersorg/status/1892910788626567591?s=46&t=IdtJIRhrVPeFTmzlzqFz4A

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ThePeppyMoose · 23/02/2025 19:56

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2025 19:44

Ok cool!

JenniferBooth · 23/02/2025 19:44

ThePeppyMoose · 23/02/2025 18:23

Weirdly specific..

Its from reading threads on here not personal experience.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5152077-false-information-on-medical-record

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5152077-false-information-on-medical-record

I have loads more i can link for you.

AnSolas · 23/02/2025 19:41

@ArabellaScott has spotted that the GMC have been working overtime to decide they can edit pronouns and names from historical records

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5281049-gmc-handbrake-turn-on-transitioning-doctors?reply=142401000

ThePeppyMoose · 23/02/2025 18:23

JenniferBooth · 21/02/2025 20:53

And yet if someone is WRONGLY listed as a drug addict or alcoholic on their medical records its apparently incredibly hard/near impossible to change it.

Weirdly specific..

BeFairEagle · 23/02/2025 08:09

MomBruh · 21/02/2025 18:36

I thought they just wanted to pee?

Where did the fucking around with safeguarding and material reality spring from?

🤯

scorpiogirly · 21/02/2025 21:12

Doctors who believe they can change sex shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine full stop.

VickyEadieofThigh · 21/02/2025 20:57

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 21/02/2025 18:03

They all want to be “ahead of the law”

And what's happening is they are all BREAKING the law.

Paniconthedancefloor · 21/02/2025 20:57

Patient safeguarding be damned, that means nothing compared to the comfort of men larping as women. At least Wes Streetong has told the GMC to get their heads out of their arses and correct this clear risk to patients.

JenniferBooth · 21/02/2025 20:53

And yet if someone is WRONGLY listed as a drug addict or alcoholic on their medical records its apparently incredibly hard/near impossible to change it.

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 21/02/2025 20:47

AnSolas · 21/02/2025 18:37

Agreed

(but )
We were all told the TRA ideology " I am who I say I am" argument means "no debate ".
And when real life shows how stupid that idea is the fall back is " No true TW/tm would do that" like that is not what was shouted down by "no debate".

💯

AnSolas · 21/02/2025 18:37

SgtHowie · 21/02/2025 18:23

It’s not even a trans issue per se, anything that creates a loophole that allows people to hide is a bad thing. Surely no one could have a problem with this being highlighted? It’s a safeguarding issue above all else.

Agreed

(but )
We were all told the TRA ideology " I am who I say I am" argument means "no debate ".
And when real life shows how stupid that idea is the fall back is " No true TW/tm would do that" like that is not what was shouted down by "no debate".

MomBruh · 21/02/2025 18:36

I thought they just wanted to pee?

Where did the fucking around with safeguarding and material reality spring from?

Redshoeblueshoe · 21/02/2025 18:36

WTF indeed

LookingAtMyBhunas · 21/02/2025 18:32

Wtf

CurbsideProphet · 21/02/2025 18:31

Projectme · 21/02/2025 16:43

Absolutely insane. The world has gone mad!! I'm starting to think I'm living in a parallel universe 🤬

Same. Absolute insanity.

DrudgeJedd · 21/02/2025 18:27

Why on earth are MNHQ deleting posts on a thread about safeguarding?

AnSolas · 21/02/2025 18:25

NImumconfused · 21/02/2025 17:47

Nobody is checking. Self ID is not law, but it has become the de facto practice all over the place.

Yep

My point is that anybody can change their ID.

The ones with the most motivation to game the system are the ones that the GMC need to manage in public.
The decision to manage the process in public was so that the public has at least a chance find at the information.

Its basic, obvious, as if they got together and planed a how do we create a easy exploitable process failure

SgtHowie · 21/02/2025 18:23

AnSolas · 21/02/2025 17:39

Early days Polly
There will be someone along soon to demand MN move this thread from AIBU to the naughty step.
Others to state they object this subject ever be spoke about but it proves MN is transphobic.

It’s not even a trans issue per se, anything that creates a loophole that allows people to hide is a bad thing. Surely no one could have a problem with this being highlighted? It’s a safeguarding issue above all else.

NebulousDogwhistle · 21/02/2025 18:19

It's insane.

As the DBS loophole.

It's like no one learned anything from any previous safeguarding failure that ever came before. If you have a sacred caste of people you cannot question, you do not have safeguarding.

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 21/02/2025 18:03

NImumconfused · 21/02/2025 17:47

Nobody is checking. Self ID is not law, but it has become the de facto practice all over the place.

They all want to be “ahead of the law”

NImumconfused · 21/02/2025 17:47

AnSolas · 21/02/2025 17:44

How are the GMC deciding the reregistration?
It is open season for any bad doctor to claim to be "trans" and need to change their details.
If John Johnes puts in a request to be Jo Smith and he carries on as usual after the "change" who is checking?

Nobody is checking. Self ID is not law, but it has become the de facto practice all over the place.

AnSolas · 21/02/2025 17:44

LizzieSiddal · 21/02/2025 17:16

This leads me to believe that the only way to ensure safety with a TW Dr is to refuse to be treated by them.

How are the GMC deciding the reregistration?
It is open season for any bad doctor to claim to be "trans" and need to change their details.
If John Johnes puts in a request to be Jo Smith and he carries on as usual after the "change" who is checking?

AnSolas · 21/02/2025 17:39

Early days Polly
There will be someone along soon to demand MN move this thread from AIBU to the naughty step.
Others to state they object this subject ever be spoke about but it proves MN is transphobic.

PollyPollPoll · 21/02/2025 17:31

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NImumconfused · 21/02/2025 17:30

There is a similar situation with DBS checks - changing gender allows you to hide previous crimes. The system relies on the person voluntarily ringing a phone line to advise of their previous names - and if course someone with an interest in hiding their history is definitely going to do that, aren't they!?!?

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