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RosaMoline · 2025-02-21T14:42:15+00:00

I am sure you will tell me I’m BU, but that’s fine! I’ve been to the states numerous times - Florida (all over, not just Disney/Orlando), New York City, California (los Angeles), Massachusetts and New Orleans. Myself and 2 adult DCs were planning to go to Orlando again this October. Primarily for Halloween and DS (28) is autistic & very fixated with all things Disney. DD (30) and I decided not to go ahead and take DS to Disneyland Paris instead. Yes, we’ve been there before, and it doesn’t really compare to the US version (IMO) not even close, but DS won’t mind. it’s solely down to the current POS in charge and all his minions. America seems (to me) to be on a knife edge, very volatile, and DD being LGBT is understandably unsettled too. I am not the sort of person who usually would even give a moment’s thought to something like this, but I just have a really uneasy feeling about going there. Chances are, at age 58, I may never go again. AIBU or would you be thinking twice at the moment about travelling there? (especially Florida which is a red state) I detest that man SO much!

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 21/02/2025 19:22

I get that it must be rubbish to be anti-Trump in the US right now. Part of the problem is that we are not hearing from many within the US actually speaking out against the Trump regime, so it looks like people don't really care.

Are there Americans out marching in the streets to protest against their dreadful leader? What are they doing to make their voices heard?

Because if they don't care enough to actually stand up and mount a convincing opposition to what's happening, then that makes them complicit in my view, and I will be sticking with my personal decision to minimise the amount of my money going to support the current US regime.

Breezeblock · 21/02/2025 19:21

britinnyc · 21/02/2025 19:03

Oh good, another thread where Brits act all morally superior and judge the US. Please remember that Trump is not a dictator, he was democratically elected but a huge number of people did not support him. Life is no different with him in power despite the hate speech that he spews, a small group of awful people may feel empowered by it but they are the minority, especially in blue states where we still have governments who will protect the rights of women, minorities and the LGBTQ community. Being morally superior is kind of a slap in the face to a lot of people who agree with you in states that do rely on tourist $ for their economy. And Disney is not pro Trump and has a contentious relationship with the governor of FL so giving them $ isn’t supporting anything terrible. We aren’t all bad here or devoid of a moral compass so the high horse attitude gets really old on here.

He may have been legally elected, but his behaviour since then is not following in that vein. Although I wouldn’t expect any different from a convicted felon

Crushed23 · 21/02/2025 19:19

I live here and everything is fine. In fact, my quality of life has improved vastly since leaving the UK last year!

Overtheatlantic · 21/02/2025 19:16

Drylogsonly · 21/02/2025 15:56

Florida isn’t a safe state for anyone gay.

I thought most of the Disney cast are gay?

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 19:12

britinnyc · 21/02/2025 19:03

Oh good, another thread where Brits act all morally superior and judge the US. Please remember that Trump is not a dictator, he was democratically elected but a huge number of people did not support him. Life is no different with him in power despite the hate speech that he spews, a small group of awful people may feel empowered by it but they are the minority, especially in blue states where we still have governments who will protect the rights of women, minorities and the LGBTQ community. Being morally superior is kind of a slap in the face to a lot of people who agree with you in states that do rely on tourist $ for their economy. And Disney is not pro Trump and has a contentious relationship with the governor of FL so giving them $ isn’t supporting anything terrible. We aren’t all bad here or devoid of a moral compass so the high horse attitude gets really old on here.

I’m not British but live in Canada and yes we are being morally superior whilst Trump is threatening to take Canada as the 51st State. In reality many Americans would probably prefer to live north of the border.

britinnyc · 21/02/2025 19:03

Oh good, another thread where Brits act all morally superior and judge the US. Please remember that Trump is not a dictator, he was democratically elected but a huge number of people did not support him. Life is no different with him in power despite the hate speech that he spews, a small group of awful people may feel empowered by it but they are the minority, especially in blue states where we still have governments who will protect the rights of women, minorities and the LGBTQ community. Being morally superior is kind of a slap in the face to a lot of people who agree with you in states that do rely on tourist $ for their economy. And Disney is not pro Trump and has a contentious relationship with the governor of FL so giving them $ isn’t supporting anything terrible. We aren’t all bad here or devoid of a moral compass so the high horse attitude gets really old on here.

CanadianJohn · 21/02/2025 18:54

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 17:06

Yea, pls keep it handy. In the meantime may be check how much New York City and California get in revenue from tourists? Do you think that a pathetic little group of idiots trying to boycott by not travelling there would bankrupt the US? Specially as the OP came to said she went last in 2008. Laughable.

Also, does she knows Obama records in selling guns? Or the ramdom attacks happening in France. 🤣

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The "pathetic little group of idiots" spend lots of money in the US.
Some quotes from today's newspapers:

“A 10 per cent reduction in Canadian travel could mean 2.0 million fewer visits, $2.1 billion in lost spending and 14,000 job losses,”

and in a different paper

"A total of 56 per cent of Canadians say they will not travel to the United States or have cancelled plans to do so. Only 11 per cent said they will make no change."

I suspect a lot of Florida businesses will be feeling a chill.

Mrsgreen100 · 21/02/2025 18:46

Not going to visit usa until trump is gone
as a matter of principle
why would I spend money in a place where
the crazy misogynist racist warmongering man is in charge voted in by the people
theres not much we can do but if everyone boycotted travel there , it would at least send a message come on guys don’t go to the Usa until he’s gone

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 18:43

FKAT · 21/02/2025 18:11

I'm wary of travelling to the US mainly because of the food prices. I remember sending DC last year to the corner shop in Miami Beach with $20 and they came back with 2 cans of pop and a small pack of sweets. DH paid $90 for breakfast in a chain restaurant last week.

Civil War?

Gosh, I remember when the US was v reasonable for food shopping! And the $1.99 all you can eat breakfasts. 😳

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Parker231 · 21/02/2025 18:42

MissConductUS · 21/02/2025 18:15

We’ve never been bombed, unless you count Pearl Harbor or 9/11. I think we can relate to Ukraine’s situation. We’ve given quite a lot of aid in the last three years.

Trump has a big margin of victory in the electoral college, and a smaller margin of victory in the popular vote.

Edited to add that I’m a New Yorker, and I’m so pleased that you like to holiday here. We love our British tourists.

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I’m still amazed that Trump got voted in - he’s an idiot with zero skills.

It's the Gulf of Mexico.
Canada is not a US state.
Gaza is not a real estate trade.
Greenland is not for sale.
The world is not American.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 18:41

Takoneko · 21/02/2025 18:32

How restrictive is his eating? In Tokyo and Osaka there is no shortage of convenience stores and fast food. If you’re in the big cities even a very picky eater won’t go hungry.

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Very restrictive!
However as DD & I are planning to do Japan next year, then there’s no point going in a few months. Plus all these trips are going to be so costly as it is. This is an opportunity that has come our way thanks to an inheritance.

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kattaduck · 21/02/2025 18:39

I wouldn't go right now. I can hardly even stomach to see Trump on my TV right now so being around Trump supporters would not be a relaxing holiday. Should things quiet down in the future I would probably reconsider.
I would also be scared that a government who is anti European might embolden its citizens to voice these views towards me.

Do I believe in a Civil War with boots on the ground?
Not right now but I don't think it's totally out of the question. The US is a deeply divided country right now with violent militias on the rise after the January 6th pardons.
I can see more violent attacks like Charlottesville happening in the future.

whatonearthisgoingonnow · 21/02/2025 18:32

Have you considered Tokyo Disneyland instead? The Universal there looks amazing too.

edit: just read you have! I'd definitely go there instead

Takoneko · 21/02/2025 18:32

RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 17:59

We did consider Japan, but DD & I are hoping to do a cruise there next year anyway. Because of DS’s autism/sensory issues, we thought it would be difficult to find food he would eat there.

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How restrictive is his eating? In Tokyo and Osaka there is no shortage of convenience stores and fast food. If you’re in the big cities even a very picky eater won’t go hungry.

emmetgirl · 21/02/2025 18:31

I have a sibling that's lived there for 20+ years. I've been over there many times to many different places.
I have to say though I'm in no hurry to spend any of my very hard earned money there at the moment.

DuchessDissasster · 21/02/2025 18:28

@FKAT no I'm just pointing out what a ridiculous example you gave ime.

DuchessDissasster · 21/02/2025 18:27

There are comments on here that are just as barking mad as Trump supporters that have never left their township 😂

FKAT · 21/02/2025 18:26

DuchessDissasster · 21/02/2025 18:24

I would suggest your DH got ripped off and as for spending 20 bucks in a corner shop what do you expect ? 🙄

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Blimey you've taken this personally.

DuchessDissasster · 21/02/2025 18:24

FKAT · 21/02/2025 18:11

I'm wary of travelling to the US mainly because of the food prices. I remember sending DC last year to the corner shop in Miami Beach with $20 and they came back with 2 cans of pop and a small pack of sweets. DH paid $90 for breakfast in a chain restaurant last week.

Civil War?

I would suggest your DH got ripped off and as for spending 20 bucks in a corner shop what do you expect ? 🙄

RetroTotty · 21/02/2025 18:24

ExtraOnions · 21/02/2025 17:54

I have relatives in Minnesota, who are convinced that a Civil War is coming.

Personally, I think Musk will start to raise, and arm, his own personally militia .. and then it will hit the fan

Musk is very very dangerous right now. Unhinged and unpredictable.

Holgen · 21/02/2025 18:21

I would definitely be wary of flying in the USA at the moment; they have had four major aviation incidents this year alone and are now taking it further by sacking their airline safety staff. It's an offputting thought.

However, I would not travel to a fair number of countries in the middle east for their record on certain things which matter to me, and the USA now also belongs in that bracket.

MissConductUS · 21/02/2025 18:15

IncessantNameChanger · 21/02/2025 18:07

I think Trump had a big majority win so why the worry of civil unrest? I could be totally nieve here and I don't pretend to be politically savy but America has never been bombed in a war and never been under threat of invasion so I guess Americans can't relate to the Ukraine situation very well compared to some other countries.

It wouldn't stop me going to the US I love NYC. What I wouldn't do is enter any debate on what I thought politically when there.

No one will give a hoot if tourists pull back from America. Life is short and increasingly unstable so live it. We have zero impact on how this plays out. Next year for all we know things might get worse and the option to go isn't there any more

We’ve never been bombed, unless you count Pearl Harbor or 9/11. I think we can relate to Ukraine’s situation. We’ve given quite a lot of aid in the last three years.

Trump has a big margin of victory in the electoral college, and a smaller margin of victory in the popular vote.

Edited to add that I’m a New Yorker, and I’m so pleased that you like to holiday here. We love our British tourists.

Hoppinggreen · 21/02/2025 18:14

aModernClassic · 21/02/2025 17:29

@Hoppinggreen - I don't know your DD's situation, but if you're referring to her maybe needing an abortion whilst on a two week holiday, I think you have bigger things to worry about.

You misunderstand
DD is not currently Pg and is unlikely to be for some years if at all.
My point is IF someone was pg and needed care for a MC or similar I would be concerned they might not get it
There have been cases in countries that do not offer abortions on demand where women have been very ill and died because doctors would not remove the remains of a dead or very ill baby to save the mother.

OneLemonDog · 21/02/2025 18:13

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 21/02/2025 17:44

Team Canada 🇨🇦

Winning last night sure did feel good though didn’t it? 😃

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The US can still win if Mike Pence has the courage to do the right thing.

Meadowfinch · 21/02/2025 18:13

YANBU OP.

I don't think there will be a civil war but with the inflammatory nonsense coming out of the US government, and the growing contempt for women's rights, I won't be going back for the next few years.

My dniece who currently lives in New Mexico is trying to confirm a placement back in the UK, so she can bring her family home. I'll be glad when they are home.